Tuesday, November 30, 2010

[Yasmin_discussions] poetry

Introduction 30 Dec 2010
My voice/wind poetry is of long standing interest and whose conceptual
history is referenced below. Since retiring, I have delimited my
exposure via UMDuluth, Minnesota US web pages and
http://www.archive.org/(enter LeifBrush) for sounds, and continue to
benefit from re-blogs and re-broadcasts of same. The archived analog
research (below) has zeroed in on nature soundings using solar powered
triaxial xyz accelerometers, and outputing re-constructed or realtime
terrestrial phenomena from Terrain based Instruments and, specifically,
the WINDRIBBON. A proposed U grant due this month is intended to
re-focus and permit constructs -from a conceptual nano backbone- of the
essential details which would allow my use of smart xyz accelerometers
and hydrophones- with A and D outputs. In additionI'd like to advance
beyond the pretense of simulated multiplexed I/Os where I'm using an
analog modulated laser with B&W video. Also, key conceptual aspects
target segueing with an Internet2 group and anticipate the posting of
resulting outputs to the public domain, emphasizing domestic and
international (Skype) two-way interactivities for handhelds.

ARCHIVES (31 scroll down pages) http://www.d.umn.edu/~lbrush/
MIND VOICE NETWORK POETRY
http://www.google.com/search?q=mind+voice+network%2C+leif+brush&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&aq=t&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&client=firefox-a
http://www.d.umn.edu/~lbrush/laser6.jpg
http://www.d.umn.edu/~lbrush/datapoetry.jpg
WIND VOICE POETRY
http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?pid=30553577&l=83e3e0f1cf&id=1123850911
CV http://www.d.umn.edu/~lbrush/emeritus.htm
WINDRIBBON
http://www.google.com/search?q=mind+voice+network%2C+leif+brush&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&aq=t&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&client=firefox-a#hl=en&client=firefox-a&hs=khn&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&&sa=X&ei=LBr1TPSTCaic4Aaeo8ixDg&sqi=2&ved=0CBIQvgUoAA&q=windribbon,+leif+brush&nfpr=1&fp=8bc48c66f0d3c525
TERRAIN INSTRUMENTS
http://www.google.com/search?q=Terrain+Instruments&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&aq=t&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&client=firefox-a
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*Professor Emeritus*, *Department of Art + Design*

*University of Minnesota Duluth *

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Re: [Yasmin_discussions] Science, Technology, Art, POETRY

Dear Annick, Roger & all,

Do you know, TO (Transitoire observable)

Transitoire Observable is a grouping of numerical artists

The group was created on February 6, 2003 by three numerical poets : Philippe Bootz, Alexandre Gherban and Tibor Papp. It has been joined by several other numerical artists. Each artist of the grouping has already known personal poetics. These artists are focusing on the globality of systems which are using computers and not only on the forms of surface which can be observed on-screen.

This site contains theoretical approaches, works and information about the members of the grouping. It contains only elements which are concerned with the subject of the grouping and no general information about the artists of Transitoire Observable.

Having considered that most of the original objectives have been reached, on a common agreement, Transtoire Observable ceased to exist on december 6th 2007. We leave here, for consultation purposes, the theoritical texts, which constitute the archives of Transitoire Observable.

http://transitoireobs.free.fr/to/
Members :
• Membres
• Eric Sérandour
• Tibor Papp
• Philippe Bootz
• b-l-u-e-s-c-r-e-e-n
• drouillon
• Loss Pequeño Glazier
• Antoine Schmitt
• Alexandre Gherban
• xavier Leton
• Patrick-Henri Burgaud
• Frédéric Drouillon
• Philippe Castellin
• Jean-Pierre Balpe
• Wilton Azevedo

Best,
Xavier

Le 29 nov. 2010 à 22:59, Annick Bureaud a écrit :

> Dear Roger
>
> To the references of (new media) poetry and Leonardo (in LEA and in the Book Series) that you mention in your introductory post, I would like to add "Les Basiques : La littérature numérique" by Philippe Bootz in the Les Basiques Series on Leonardo/Olats :
> http://www.olats.org/livresetudes/basiques/litteraturenumerique/basiquesLN.php
> It is in French, but I am sure that many Yasminers read French.
>
>
> >What is it that
>> makes poetry vital for survival? We live in a dangerous age, do we
>> need a new poetics?
>
> I think that apart from some very short periods and only in very few countries, we (human beings at large) have always lived in a "dangerous age". I also think that art (and not only poetry) is vital for survival.
>
> Annick
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Re: [Yasmin_discussions] Science, Technology, Art, POETRY

Dear Annick.

As I wrote to Brenac (in private),
«... bit of redundancy here would not do any arm, since we tend to see
things separately, like poetry beeing a support for some scientific
and technological aspects only ... But in the end it really doesn't
matter so much, since not only poetry is art, but also most art forms
(if not all them) are poetic.»

Vítor

Citando Annick Bureaud <bureaud@altern.org>:

> Dear Roger
>
> To the references of (new media) poetry and Leonardo (in LEA and in
> the Book Series) that you mention in your introductory post, I would
> like to add "Les Basiques : La littérature numérique" by Philippe
> Bootz in the Les Basiques Series on Leonardo/Olats :
> http://www.olats.org/livresetudes/basiques/litteraturenumerique/basiquesLN.php It is in French, but I am sure that many Yasminers read
> French.
>
>
>> What is it that
>> makes poetry vital for survival? We live in a dangerous age, do we
>> need a new poetics?
>
> I think that apart from some very short periods and only in very few
> countries, we (human beings at large) have always lived in a
> "dangerous age". I also think that art (and not only poetry) is
> vital for survival.
>
> Annick
>
> --
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Re: [Yasmin_discussions] Science, Technology, Art, POETRY

We always need a new poetics as we always live in dangerous age. However,
any poetics that deserves our attention will always be reinventing itself.
It is in the nature of the poetic - it is a generative medium. Poetry
creates people as well as poems. That is to say, when you read a poem (or
view a picture, or whatever) you imagine a state into being, a state of self
that is predicated on an exchange between multiple selves. This is how
people are made. New poetics means new people. It happens everyday...

Best

Simon


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Creative Interdisciplinary Research in CoLlaborative Environments
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> From: Annick Bureaud <bureaud@altern.org>
> Reply-To: <bureaud@altern.org>, YASMIN DISCUSSIONS
> <yasmin_discussions@estia.media.uoa.gr>
> Date: Mon, 29 Nov 2010 22:59:21 +0100
> To: YASMIN DISCUSSIONS <yasmin_discussions@estia.media.uoa.gr>
> Subject: Re: [Yasmin_discussions] Science, Technology, Art, POETRY
>
> Dear Roger
>
> To the references of (new media) poetry and Leonardo (in LEA
> and in the Book Series) that you mention in your
> introductory post, I would like to add "Les Basiques : La
> littérature numérique" by Philippe Bootz in the Les Basiques
> Series on Leonardo/Olats :
> http://www.olats.org/livresetudes/basiques/litteraturenumerique/basiquesLN.php
>
> It is in French, but I am sure that many Yasminers read French.
>
>
>> What is it that
>> makes poetry vital for survival? We live in a dangerous age, do we
>> need a new poetics?
>
> I think that apart from some very short periods and only in
> very few countries, we (human beings at large) have always
> lived in a "dangerous age". I also think that art (and not
> only poetry) is vital for survival.
>
> Annick
>
> --
>
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Re: [Yasmin_discussions] Science, Technology, Art, POETRY

Hi Everybody.

My name is Vítor Reia-Baptista and I work at the University of
Algarve, in South Portugal, where we have a research centre on Arts
and Communication - CIAC (Centro de Investigação em Artes e Comunicação)
http://www.ciac.pt/en/index.php

I do not have anu direct answer to Roger questions and I don't know if
they exist in general, but I'm certain that they apply to many of our
human kind situations: we do need poetry, in different shapes and
different states of mind and materia.

So, here are some starting contributes for a discussion maybe also
around the way Teknè makes Poietike possible, through knowledge
(Science) made visible by Art crafts?

Dave Morley, author of the poem «Mathematics of Light»
<http://www.liv.ac.uk/poetryandscience/poems/mathematics-of-light.htm>;
wrote:
«Think of an empty page as open space. It possesses no dimension. Human time
makes no claim. Everything is possible, at this point endlessly possible.
Anything can grow in it. Anybody, real or imaginary, can travel there, stay
put, or move on. There is no constraint, except the honesty of the writer
and the scope of imagination-qualities with which we are born and
characteristics that we can develop. Writers are born and made.»

This contribute may be found in the site of the Centre for Poetry and
Science at the University of Liverpool:
<http://www.liv.ac.uk/poetryandscience/poems/index.htm>;

From another perspective the Poetry Foudation claims that there are (at
least) 1875 Poems about Arts & Sciences, such as the «Equation for my
Children» by Wilmer Mills:
http://atirateaomar.blogspot.com/

Best wishes.
Vítor Reia

Citando roger malina <rmalina@alum.mit.edu>:

> Science, Technology, Art, POETRY
> Opening Statement by YASMIN co moderator Roger Malina
>
> Poetry in the Asylum:
>
> There have been times in my life when I have been a voracious reader,
> and sometime writer, of poetry. Sometimes this state is triggered by
> jet lag. At those times I consume and generate poetry as if my very
> survival depended on it. At other times I am cold to poetry.
>
> My Czech grandparents were both musicians and music teachers and they
> raised my father in a home where music was almost a basic food. He
> used to listen to music as he carried out his scientific research in
> the 30s, and later as he created his kinetic art works in the 1950s;
> his seminal work "Jazz":
> (http://www.olats.org/pionniers/malina/bdd/oeuvre.php?oi=1201)
> is a visual poem linking sound and image. It was during this time that
> he was at personal risk, pursued by the US McCarthy staffers and the
> US FBI. Then suddenly in his 50s, after his political problems were
> over, he became oblivious to music and painted in silence for the rest
> of his life. Is this a coincidence or a connection? What is it that
> makes poetry vital for survival? We live in a dangerous age, do we
> need a new poetics?
>
> In recent decades, much of the art connected to science and new
> technologies has been non contemplative, often loud and insistent,
> un-poetical. But other artists, and poets, as they have explored these
> new terrains have developed new poetic impulses that have created new
> senses of the special and even the sacred. Examples come to mind that
> I would put in the category of poetic arts would include:
>
> Jeffrey Shaw's "Legible City : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=61l7Y4MS4aU
> Char Davies "Ephemere": http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Oa_aiw7yhpI
> David Rokeby's "Very Nervous System" :
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SrawKucSSRw
> Mark Hansen and Ben Rubin's Listening post:
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dD36IajCz6A
>
> The invited respondents in this discussion have a variety of
> approaches to poetry that connects to the sciences and technology of
> our age.
>
> When historian Robert Ilbert asked Samuel Bordreuil and I to set up
> the Art-Science wing of IMERA:
> http://www.imera.fr/index.php/en/organisation/101.html
> he named it : ASIL, or the French word for Asylum, with the acronym
> Arts-Sciences-Instrumentations-Language . Indeed the connections
> between the arts, sciences and technology must also be mediated by
> languages both image and word, and in particular by art forms that use
> language as their raw material. We have recently issued a new call for
> residency proposals :
> http://www.imera.fr/index.php/en/becoming-a-fellow/applications.html
> and we welcome proposals from poets that need to collaborate with
> scientists or research engineers to achieve their artistic vision. We
> need poetry in the Asylum.
>
> Ten years ago poet Tim Peterson, a participant in this discussion,
> led a Leonardo Electronic Almanac project around the new poetics :
> New Media Poetry and Poetics
>> From Concrete to Codework: Praxis in Networked and Programmable Media
> http://www.leoalmanac.org/journal/vol_14/lea_v14_n05-06/tpeterson.html
> and more recently in the Leonardo Book Series at MIT Press we published
> New Media Poetics: edited by Adalaide Morris and Thomas Swiss
> http://leonardo.info/isast/leobooks/books/swissmorris.html
> which documents some of the current work in new media poetics.
>
> In this YASMIN discussion we seek to discuss all the many ways that
> poetry connects to the new sciences and the new technologies that
> underpin so many of the new ways that we are becoming human.
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Monday, November 29, 2010

Re: [Yasmin_discussions] Science, Technology, Art, POETRY

Dear Roger

To the references of (new media) poetry and Leonardo (in LEA
and in the Book Series) that you mention in your
introductory post, I would like to add "Les Basiques : La
littérature numérique" by Philippe Bootz in the Les Basiques
Series on Leonardo/Olats :
http://www.olats.org/livresetudes/basiques/litteraturenumerique/basiquesLN.php

It is in French, but I am sure that many Yasminers read French.


>What is it that
> makes poetry vital for survival? We live in a dangerous age, do we
> need a new poetics?

I think that apart from some very short periods and only in
very few countries, we (human beings at large) have always
lived in a "dangerous age". I also think that art (and not
only poetry) is vital for survival.

Annick

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Re: [Yasmin_discussions] Science, Technology, Art, POETRY

Roger - a few historical pointers to early computer poetry:

Christopher Strachey's "Loveletters" first run in 1952 on the Ferranti Mark 1 at Manchester University and now available on David Link's emulator here : http://www.alpha60.de/research/muc/

Margaret Masterman and Robin McKinnon-Wood's "Computer Haiku" - shown at Cybernetic Serendipity in 1968. Their essay is published in: http://staff.cch.kcl.ac.uk/~wmccarty/DHO/readings/foreground/1971/Reichardt,%20Cybernetics,%20art%20and%20ideas.pdf (this is only Jasia Reichardt's introductory essay)

Robin SHirley's "Dune Tune" from 1972: http://www.bbk.ac.uk/hosted/cache/archive/PAGE/PAGE25.pdf -- and note at the end of that essay Robin thanks the University of Surrey for "authorising an annual budget for computer poetry since 1969"!!

I also just found this and it looks interesting but I haven't had time to look into it yet: http://writing.upenn.edu/pennsound/x/Funkhouser-IBM-Poetry.html

Best
Paul

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