[Yasmin_discussions] DOES ART SCIENCE COLLABORATION CONTRIBUTE IN ANY WAY TO SUCCESSFUL SCIENTIFIC PRACTICE ?

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DOES ART SCIENCE COLLABORATION CONTRIBUTE IN ANY WAY TO SUCCESSFUL
SCIENTIFIC PRACTICE ?


http://xsead.ame.asu.edu/works/57

SEAD DISCUSSION : Opportunities and Obstacles Facing Scientists,
Mathematicians, and Engineers Deeply Engaged in the Arts and Design
We solicit invited comments to help understand the perspective of
researchers working in realms traditionally designated as scientific,
or pertaining more broadly to the STEM (science, technology,
engineering, and mathematics) who are heavily involved in
collaboration with artists, designers and humanities scholars.

A SEAD White Paper has been posted for comment and discussion:
Opportunities and Obstacles Facing Scientists, Mathematicians, and
Engineers Deeply Engaged in the Arts and Design by Carol Strohecker,
Roger Malina, and Wendy Silk and is available at
http://xsead.ame.asu.edu/works/57

The White Paper resulted from interviews with 20 scientists : 7 women
and 13 men. All the responding scientists have been working
collaboratively with artists and/or designers for 5 years or more,
some for as long as 20 years or more, with one reporting such
collaboration dating back about 50 years.

Not surprisingly, a strong message throughout the interviews is that a
strong benefit for scientists collaborating with artists is to support
communication and education – with students and colleagues, and
especially among the general public. However many of the scientists
report having experienced changes in their methods, priorities,
focuses, or ways of conceptualizing. This provides a critical focus on
the benefits to science itself from SEAD practice.

If you wish to provide a public comment for this discussion please
contact Roger Malina at rmalina@alum.mit.edu. Please provide a very
brief bio and a few sentences on the main argument you would like to
make. We will then make invitations to selected contributors. We are
particularly keen to hear the opinions of scientists and engineers
involved in SEAD practices.

We also welcome discussion posted to the YASMIN list

Moderated by Roger Malina, Astrophysicist

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Re: [Yasmin_discussions] Everything that can be counted does not necessarily count; everything that counts cannot necessarily be counted.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oXW3WVeMC64

I was trying to interpret the above map with data..


On Tue, Jun 4, 2013 at 2:07 AM, Anastasia Karandinou <a.karandinou@gmail.com
> wrote:

> Very interesting topic; Many thanks Roger!
>
> As you said, the question is interesting both ways: measuring and
> quantifying the 'un-quantifiable' on one hand and interpreting/
> comprehending/ making meaning/ using/ ... data. Very interesting questions
> both at a theoretical level, and also in relation to specific practical
> questions and examples.
>
> I recently attended an interesting symposium on a very similar field of
> questions:
> http://www.arch.uth.gr/en/activities/528
> My understanding was that the debate was initiated thanks to a new museum/
> databases designed in Volos. One of the questions was about how to organise
> data so that they then can be experienced in desirable ways (and what is
> 'desirable'...). How would an interface create the possibility of exciting/
> interesting/ creative exploration of the data. How would the user/ visitor
> re-create or create/ experience a narrative through some encounter with
> the data.
>
> Other studies presented had to do also with the opposite; how can a
> narrative/ an experience/ ... be organised, or fragmented, or 'pinned down'
> as a sum of data?
>
> I find these questions really interesting, especially when they are
> related to specific projects/ case studies.
>
>
>
>
> On Sun, Jun 2, 2013 at 4:42 PM, roger malina <rmalina@alum.mit.edu> wrote:
>
>> Yasminers
>>
>> here is a possible discussion topic
>>
>> Big Data Made Sensible ? Making Big Data Meaningful ?
>>
>> Lots of confusion out there under the buzz word of 'big data' that
>> conflates issues of form and content of large
>>
>> data streams. A key caveat is that you can only analyse the data you
>> have not the data you need and of course
>>
>> as Albert Einstein warned: Everything that can be counted does not
>> necessarily count; everything that counts cannot necessarily be
>> counted.
>>
>> There is a big debate between empirical and qualitative methods in the
>> arts and humanities.
>>
>>
>> One interesting area that allows new approaches to make sense of large
>> data sets is complex network
>>
>> science= where insights on the structure and interconnections of data
>> can be obtained. Leonardo for the past few
>>
>> years has been championing the research and creative community that is
>> linking the arts, humanities and complex networks
>>
>> through annual Leonardo Day Symposia at the NETSCI conferences. The
>> latest one is June 4 in Copenhagen.
>>
>> http://artshumanities.netsci2013.net/
>>
>> A Leonardo ebook now brings together the work of 45 artists and
>> researchers :
>>
>> http://www.amazon.com/kindle-store/dp/B007S0UA9Q
>>
>> (note- if you bought previous editions of this ebook, you
>> automatically get the annual updates free).
>>
>> The work ranges from the study of archeological remains, to social
>> media networks, to biological to art history to
>>
>> network music that sonifies the structure of the web.
>>
>> We are also having a great evening at the Medical Museum in Copenhagen
>> in the old dissection theater
>> on The Data Body on the Dissection Table= on complex networks and medicine
>>
>> http://olats.org/studiolab/databody.php
>>
>>
>> There is no doubt set as data sets get bigger there are new research
>> areas that become 'enabled'- for instance the
>>
>> study of rare events or unusual relationships is facilitated when data
>> sets become very large. Digitisation also brings
>>
>> topics into the reach of numerical methods topics which until then
>> remain elusive or apocryphal ( eg the evolution of
>>
>> language through analysis of millions of texts over 300 years).
>>
>>
>>
>> However big data enthusiasts need to remember Einstein's warning that :
>>
>> Everything that can be counted does not necessarily count; everything
>> that counts cannot necessarily be counted.
>>
>>
>>
>> PS you can find the abstracts of the ebook at:
>>
>> http://ahcncompanion.info/
>>
>> and more discussion on my blog
>>
>> http://malina.diatrope.com/2013/06/02/big-data-made-sensible/
>>
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>
>
>
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> University of Portsmouth
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> School of Architecture
> PO1 3AH, Portsmouth, UK
> www.karandinou.com
> tel. +44 (0) 2392842902
>



--
Dr. Anastasia Karandinou
Senior Lecturer in Architectural Design
University of Portsmouth
Portland Building, Portland Street,
School of Architecture
PO1 3AH, Portsmouth, UK
www.karandinou.com
tel. +44 (0) 2392842902
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Re: [Yasmin_discussions] Everything that can be counted does not necessarily count; everything that counts cannot necessarily be counted.

Very interesting topic; Many thanks Roger!

As you said, the question is interesting both ways: measuring and
quantifying the 'un-quantifiable' on one hand and interpreting/
comprehending/ making meaning/ using/ ... data. Very interesting questions
both at a theoretical level, and also in relation to specific practical
questions and examples.

I recently attended an interesting symposium on a very similar field of
questions:
http://www.arch.uth.gr/en/activities/528
My understanding was that the debate was initiated thanks to a new museum/
databases designed in Volos. One of the questions was about how to organise
data so that they then can be experienced in desirable ways (and what is
'desirable'...). How would an interface create the possibility of exciting/
interesting/ creative exploration of the data. How would the user/ visitor
re-create or create/ experience a narrative through some encounter with
the data.

Other studies presented had to do also with the opposite; how can a
narrative/ an experience/ ... be organised, or fragmented, or 'pinned down'
as a sum of data?

I find these questions really interesting, especially when they are related
to specific projects/ case studies.




On Sun, Jun 2, 2013 at 4:42 PM, roger malina <rmalina@alum.mit.edu> wrote:

> Yasminers
>
> here is a possible discussion topic
>
> Big Data Made Sensible ? Making Big Data Meaningful ?
>
> Lots of confusion out there under the buzz word of 'big data' that
> conflates issues of form and content of large
>
> data streams. A key caveat is that you can only analyse the data you
> have not the data you need and of course
>
> as Albert Einstein warned: Everything that can be counted does not
> necessarily count; everything that counts cannot necessarily be
> counted.
>
> There is a big debate between empirical and qualitative methods in the
> arts and humanities.
>
>
> One interesting area that allows new approaches to make sense of large
> data sets is complex network
>
> science= where insights on the structure and interconnections of data
> can be obtained. Leonardo for the past few
>
> years has been championing the research and creative community that is
> linking the arts, humanities and complex networks
>
> through annual Leonardo Day Symposia at the NETSCI conferences. The
> latest one is June 4 in Copenhagen.
>
> http://artshumanities.netsci2013.net/
>
> A Leonardo ebook now brings together the work of 45 artists and
> researchers :
>
> http://www.amazon.com/kindle-store/dp/B007S0UA9Q
>
> (note- if you bought previous editions of this ebook, you
> automatically get the annual updates free).
>
> The work ranges from the study of archeological remains, to social
> media networks, to biological to art history to
>
> network music that sonifies the structure of the web.
>
> We are also having a great evening at the Medical Museum in Copenhagen
> in the old dissection theater
> on The Data Body on the Dissection Table= on complex networks and medicine
>
> http://olats.org/studiolab/databody.php
>
>
> There is no doubt set as data sets get bigger there are new research
> areas that become 'enabled'- for instance the
>
> study of rare events or unusual relationships is facilitated when data
> sets become very large. Digitisation also brings
>
> topics into the reach of numerical methods topics which until then
> remain elusive or apocryphal ( eg the evolution of
>
> language through analysis of millions of texts over 300 years).
>
>
>
> However big data enthusiasts need to remember Einstein's warning that :
>
> Everything that can be counted does not necessarily count; everything
> that counts cannot necessarily be counted.
>
>
>
> PS you can find the abstracts of the ebook at:
>
> http://ahcncompanion.info/
>
> and more discussion on my blog
>
> http://malina.diatrope.com/2013/06/02/big-data-made-sensible/
>
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--
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Senior Lecturer in Architectural Design
University of Portsmouth
Portland Building, Portland Street,
School of Architecture
PO1 3AH, Portsmouth, UK
www.karandinou.com
tel. +44 (0) 2392842902
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[Yasmin_discussions] Everything that can be counted does not necessarily count; everything that counts cannot necessarily be counted.

Yasminers

here is a possible discussion topic

Big Data Made Sensible ? Making Big Data Meaningful ?

Lots of confusion out there under the buzz word of 'big data' that
conflates issues of form and content of large

data streams. A key caveat is that you can only analyse the data you
have not the data you need and of course

as Albert Einstein warned: Everything that can be counted does not
necessarily count; everything that counts cannot necessarily be
counted.

There is a big debate between empirical and qualitative methods in the
arts and humanities.


One interesting area that allows new approaches to make sense of large
data sets is complex network

science= where insights on the structure and interconnections of data
can be obtained. Leonardo for the past few

years has been championing the research and creative community that is
linking the arts, humanities and complex networks

through annual Leonardo Day Symposia at the NETSCI conferences. The
latest one is June 4 in Copenhagen.

http://artshumanities.netsci2013.net/

A Leonardo ebook now brings together the work of 45 artists and researchers :

http://www.amazon.com/kindle-store/dp/B007S0UA9Q

(note- if you bought previous editions of this ebook, you
automatically get the annual updates free).

The work ranges from the study of archeological remains, to social
media networks, to biological to art history to

network music that sonifies the structure of the web.

We are also having a great evening at the Medical Museum in Copenhagen
in the old dissection theater
on The Data Body on the Dissection Table= on complex networks and medicine

http://olats.org/studiolab/databody.php


There is no doubt set as data sets get bigger there are new research
areas that become 'enabled'- for instance the

study of rare events or unusual relationships is facilitated when data
sets become very large. Digitisation also brings

topics into the reach of numerical methods topics which until then
remain elusive or apocryphal ( eg the evolution of

language through analysis of millions of texts over 300 years).



However big data enthusiasts need to remember Einstein's warning that :

Everything that can be counted does not necessarily count; everything
that counts cannot necessarily be counted.



PS you can find the abstracts of the ebook at:

http://ahcncompanion.info/

and more discussion on my blog

http://malina.diatrope.com/2013/06/02/big-data-made-sensible/

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[Yasmin_discussions] Hybrid Cities: interviewing Roger Malina, Mariateresa Sartori & Bryan Connell

Hi Yasmin list,

I thought it appropriate to post on here our recent interview with Roger
Malina, Mariateresa Sartori & Bryan Connell on Furtherfield.

Wishing you well.

marc

Hybrid Cities: interviewing Roger Malina, Mariateresa Sartori & Bryan
Connell

By Lawrence Bird

Roger Malina is a physicist and astronomer, Executive Editor of Leonardo
Publications (The M.I.T. Press), and Distinguished Chair of Arts and
Technology at the University of Texas at Dallas. Dr. Malina helped found
IMéRA (Institut méditerranéen de recherches avancées), a Marseille-based
institution nurturing collaboration between the arts and sciences.

Mariateresa Sartori and Bryan Connell are two artists recently based at
IMéRA. Their work connects with human movement through the city, and
addresses the intersection between technology and perception. Recent
work by Venice-based Mariateresa Sartori has encompassed drawing and
video. Bryan Connell, Exhibit/Project Developer at San Francisco's
Exploratorium, works especially with landscape observation devices and
mapping.

http://www.furtherfield.org/features/interviews/hybrid-cities-interviewing-roger-malina-mariateresa-sartori-and-bryan-connell



--
--->

A living - breathing - thriving networked neighbourhood -
proud of free culture - claiming it with others ;)

Other reviews,articles,interviews
http://www.furtherfield.org/reviews.php

Furtherfield – online arts community, platforms for creating, viewing,
discussing and learning about experimental practices at the
intersections of art, technology and social change.
http://www.furtherfield.org

Furtherfield Gallery – Finsbury Park (London).
http://www.furtherfield.org/gallery

Netbehaviour - Networked Artists List Community.
http://www.netbehaviour.org

http://identi.ca/furtherfield
http://twitter.com/furtherfield

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[Yasmin_discussions] multi media photography works as new media arts in expansion

Dear Sirs


I seem to have pursued my multi media new media arts -series of
activations- for 49 years, as can be seen via,
my already running internet blogs, addresses and links, as quite
accessible, Possibly, İ will be needing
supports and further guidance, discusssion panelsvimeoda hazırlanmıs video
klipleri bilgi eksigini ve yorumlar ekleyerek
gösterime ilgilenirmisiniz acaba belki bazılarını tercih edersiniz



VOLKAN TERZIOGLU 2.09 vimeo.com/2931839

ONLAR 5.35 DICTIONARY OF MOSCOW CONCEPTUALISM 2892608

a multi media reminescence 3.35 let there be love nat 3259611

nmk space works 7.15 mediterranean ulucan trio 1736799

along the wall 3 7.12 19.01.2009 2886264

provocations m 3.36 ilhan mimaroglu 603055

two preludes 10,11 4.44 2886104

CLAIR DE LUNE 3.30 MG 4579877

BERGAMA 5.58 2004 4280756

SUBSTREAMS 221 8.17 arto 4256456

studio-minus nomo pauline O. 3543763

the green clip pastoral symphony 4.00 4184454

potlucks 7.33 webern, ligeti 3105481

ali dogan suite 3.29 4230404

Kaffe and Zeena 7.13 4185314

buyukberber solo BMSUMA concert 2.52 5072420

allegro passionata dilbag tokay/emine serdaroglu 30.5.08 4928422

miam b.arel juraj, paula matthusen 7.22 4881558

new sounds at MIAM 10.55 PAULA, Joraj Koja4770976

newclip 111 5.58 j.cage ensemble 13 4810104

FANNY 5.22 gyorgy kurtag, van heumen 4834008

newmedia dance event 2002 deuce k 25938316

potpourie 12 6.51 C Wolff, coltrane, electronics 1895070

fontana REMIX 9.04 channels/4050

borusan sa.ne.na amy 18246179

graspimg the tendencies 5.13 mehmet ne mutlu iu 17416805

marals electro-acoustics 2010 aggregates 6.31 13604250

transit days nmk video 2007 50583

new deform sounds 5.57 5244789

buyuk rakkamların önüne www.vimeo.com/17416805

gibi koyabilirsiniz videoların ek bilgilerini muzikler için lutfen
doyurunu

[Yasmin_discussions] yasmin debate around open acecss

yasminers

There is much debate these days around open access publication. This is an issue
that transcends the arts, the sciences and technology research and practice.

We are living in an exciting time of transformation in how
professionals document their work and share it

to others. Perhaps 50 years from now it will be clear which new
business models provide

platforms for sustainable academic publishing ( we forget that current
academic publishing

is a recent invention; in the 19th century academic publishing was the
sole domain of scholarly

societies; commercial research publishers only emerged in the 1950s)



A number of funding agencies now require funded authors to publish in open

access publications ( where often a page charge is collected). As a
result Leonardo

is now making available an option where authors whose funding agencies require

open access publishing may do so with a page charge.



Recently my UT Dallas colleague blogger David Parry has insisted

that open access is an ethical issue and that it is immoral for
academics to publish in

subscription or fee based publications, Do you agree ? We look
forward to a vigorous debate


Here is a podcast of David Parry' opinions in the Chronicle of Higher
Education :


http://chronicle.com/blogs/techtherapy/2013/03/06/episode-104-professor-sees-moral-imperative-for-open-access/



I need to declare a conflict of interest on this discussion as I am
Executive Editor of the Leonardo Publications

at MIT Press.


http://leonardo.info/



Here are recent posts from the US government on open access=

these apply to government funded research - should it apply to the
arts and humanities
as well as science and engineering and medical research ...


http://www.whitehouse.gov/administration/eop/ostp/library/publicaccesspolicy


http://www.whitehouse.gov/sites/default/files/microsites/ostp/ostp_public_access_memo_2013.pdf
http://www.whitehouse.gov/sites/default/files/microsites/ostp/public_access-final.pdf

How is this debate going in around the mediterranean and elsewhere ?


I look forward to your comments on this debate which you can also find
on my blog: malina.diatrope.com

roger malina
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