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Yasmin_discussions Digest, Vol 40, Issue 3

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Date: Thu, 27 May 2021 07:54:37 +0200
From: YASMIN DISCUSSIONS <yasmin_discussions@ntlab.gr>
To: yasmin_discussions@ntlab.gr
Subject: Re: [Yasmin_discussions] Yasmin_discussions Digest, Vol 40,
Issue 1
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Dear Roger,

This sounds certainly an amazing topic.
It can totally become Nomadic for sure.

The last laser in Bellinzona was presented in the parc of a museum and
under a big tree. The trees come from around the world and we evoked the
idea of nomad trees.

All the best
Luca


On Tue, 25 May 2021 at 11:01, <yasmin_discussions-request@ntlab.gr> wrote:

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> 1. proposed yasmin discussions; should we , could we give plants
> the right to vote (YASMIN DISCUSSIONS)
> 2. Re: proposed yasmin discussions; should we , could we give
> plants the right to vote (YASMIN DISCUSSIONS)
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> Message: 1
> Date: Mon, 24 May 2021 12:51:34 -0500
> From: YASMIN DISCUSSIONS <yasmin_discussions@ntlab.gr>
> To: yasmin_discussions@ntlab.gr, Jonathon Keats
> <jonathonkeats@gmail.com>, Czegledy <czegledy@interlog.com>
> Subject: [Yasmin_discussions] proposed yasmin discussions; should we ,
> could we give plants the right to vote
> Message-ID:
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> yasminers
>
> nina czegledy and fomenting a yasmin discussion with jonathon keats
> Jonathon Keats is a conceptual artist and experimental philosopher[1]
> known for creating large-scale thought experiments. Keats was born in
> New York City and studied philosophy at Amherst College.[2] He now
> lives in San Francisco and Italy.[3]
> \
> his latest provocation is part of his THE FUTURE DEMOCRACIES
> LABORATORY: AUTOMATED GOVERNMENT PROTOTYPING SYSTEM
> https://projects.cadre.sjsu.edu/democracyproject/index.html
> The Future Democracies Laboratory is a research space dedicated to the
> investigation of methodologies and technologies for collective
> decision-making. Directed by experimental philosopher Jonathon Keats,
> in collaboration with San Jos? State University students and CADRE
> faculty Rhonda Holberton and Steve Durie, the transdisciplinary
> laboratory hosts an open-source software platform for rapidly modeling
> and testing democratic systems.
>
> We are working him as part of initiatives to mitigate climate change,
> the absurd idea of giving plants the right
> to vote- the first step is a citizen science project where YOU can
> poll the plants around you and 'represent' them
> in this yasmin discussion
>
> I am currently 'polling" plants in dallas and so far have discovered that:
> a) i notice more unhappy people than unhappy plants- why cant dallas
> provide all humans a minimum annual income-
> as they do to plants who are watered and clipped and planted by the
> city for free.
> b) i dont know how to know whether a plant is 'happy' and my son
> xavier said i was projecting
> on plants things that are desirable to humans ( eg happiness) instead
> of asking plants what THEY desire
>
> If anyone would like to help us organise this discussion contact nina and I
> via rmalina@ alum.mit.edu and czegledyn@gmail.com
>
>
>
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>
> Message: 2
> Date: Mon, 24 May 2021 13:07:01 -0500
> From: YASMIN DISCUSSIONS <yasmin_discussions@ntlab.gr>
> To: yasmin_discussions@ntlab.gr, Jonathon Keats
> <jonathonkeats@gmail.com>, Czegledy <czegledy@interlog.com>,
> roger
> malina <rmalina@alum.mit.edu>
> Cc: Abdessamad EL MONTASSIR <elmontassir.abdessamad@gmail.com>, Elen
> Nas <313nnas@gmail.com>, Guillermo Mu?oz <m.m.guillermo@gmail.com
> >,
> Dimitris Charitos <vedesign@otenet.gr>, Jo?o Silveira
> <joaoarteciencia@gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [Yasmin_discussions] proposed yasmin discussions; should
> we , could we give plants the right to vote
> Message-ID:
> <mailman.2.1621886940.12969.yasmin_discussions_ntlab.gr@ntlab.gr>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8"
>
> elen abdessamad
> thanks for agreeing to participate on the yasmin discussion
> let by jonathon keats, details below
> subscribe to the discussion list using the info at the end
> perhaps you could send the list a paragraph about yourself
> and the foci of your research
>
> luca guillermo- i wonder if we could make this discussion 'nomadic "?
>
> roger malina
>
> to join yasmin discussion go to:
> https://ntlab.gr/mailman/roster/yasmin_discussions_ntlab.gr
> https://ntlab.gr/mailman/roster/yasmin_discussions_ntlab.gr
>
>
> roger
>
> Roger in Dallas, please phone/txt/ +15108532007 if urgent
>
>
>
>
> On Mon, May 24, 2021 at 12:51 PM roger malina <rmalina@alum.mit.edu>
> wrote:
> >
> > yasminers
> >
> > nina czegledy and fomenting a yasmin discussion with jonathon keats
> > Jonathon Keats is a conceptual artist and experimental philosopher[1]
> > known for creating large-scale thought experiments. Keats was born in
> > New York City and studied philosophy at Amherst College.[2] He now
> > lives in San Francisco and Italy.[3]
> > \
> > his latest provocation is part of his THE FUTURE DEMOCRACIES
> > LABORATORY: AUTOMATED GOVERNMENT PROTOTYPING SYSTEM
> > https://projects.cadre.sjsu.edu/democracyproject/index.html
> > The Future Democracies Laboratory is a research space dedicated to the
> > investigation of methodologies and technologies for collective
> > decision-making. Directed by experimental philosopher Jonathon Keats,
> > in collaboration with San Jos? State University students and CADRE
> > faculty Rhonda Holberton and Steve Durie, the transdisciplinary
> > laboratory hosts an open-source software platform for rapidly modeling
> > and testing democratic systems.
> >
> > We are working him as part of initiatives to mitigate climate change,
> > the absurd idea of giving plants the right
> > to vote- the first step is a citizen science project where YOU can
> > poll the plants around you and 'represent' them
> > in this yasmin discussion
> >
> > I am currently 'polling" plants in dallas and so far have discovered
> that:
> > a) i notice more unhappy people than unhappy plants- why cant dallas
> > provide all humans a minimum annual income-
> > as they do to plants who are watered and clipped and planted by the
> > city for free.
> > b) i dont know how to know whether a plant is 'happy' and my son
> > xavier said i was projecting
> > on plants things that are desirable to humans ( eg happiness) instead
> > of asking plants what THEY desire
> >
> > If anyone would like to help us organise this discussion contact nina
> and I
> > via rmalina@ alum.mit.edu and czegledyn@gmail.com
>
>
>
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