where we should go from here. Please feel free to comment or email me at
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Hi Roger,
I hope you enjoyed the holidays. I have been following the STEM to STEAM
discussion. There are so many perspectives from those involved in the
discussion - I find it so interesting. I also sense there is a lot of
interest in defining and giving credibility to STEAM so best practices
would be very helpful. One question lingers as to how to approach: should
it be a pedagogy to help those learn, or a practical method of doing work
to expand possibilities, connections etc., or both? And, if both, should
best practices offer opportunities for both directions? The difference in
these two perspectives affect the validity of STEAM. As a protocol or
pedagogy, STEAM would have to follow certain best practices. As a method or
enhancement to scientific research, it seems to me that this inclusion is
obvious. On the other hand, if the researcher does not see this as helpful,
it is not there. And of course, STEM is at the core of STEAM - need to
remember that! It seems there is not a hard and fast rule as whether it is
valid to include or not. There are obvious connections that include "art."
Are they implied or should we make them more deliberate? Perhaps my
perspective is tilted because I am an educator, but I have also been a
performing artist and can say from that perspective, you do whatever works.
Why would we discount or not include anything that offers a broader
perspective and inclusiveness? And that be for an observer or appreciator
of art, a participant, or one who is on the route of scientific discovery
or presenting new information. The problem presents as how to do this in
both K-12 and higher ed as well as in art or science disciplines separate
from educational venues. Your thoughts?
Again many of the discussions are focused on the content disciplines
themselves rather than educational pedagogy. I do think the way a
discipline is approached - such as using art to understand science or
science to understand art - or the inclusion of mathematics in art or
music- affects the ultimate way these disciplines are taught. I suppose
therein is the reason why there are so many proposals as to why or how to
use STEAM or if we should be using it at all.
I intended this to be a short note to reconnect, since the subject matter
intrigues, my thoughts continue to explore.
Best,
Ruth
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On Sun, Jan 8, 2017 at 2:46 PM, Ken Friedman <ken.friedman.sheji@icloud.com>
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> Dear Jon,
>
> Yikes! I didn't suggest that people use footnotes in Yasmin posts. I was
> talking about the problem of poor reference and citation in research
> articles. I sometimes provide references in Yasmin posts to make it easy
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> Yours,
>
> Ken
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> —
>
> Jon Ippolito wrote:
>
> —snip—
>
> Others have written at length about how a fresh genre or medium--or even
> gender--doesn't always measure up to the criteria inherited from older
> creative forms. Three texts that come to mind are Leo Steinberg's _Other
> Criteria_, Linda Nochlin's "Why Have There Been No Great Women Artists?"
> and Steve Dietz's "Why Have There Been No Great Net Artists?" [1][2][3] (I
> hope no one will take Ken Friedman's call for rigor to mean you have to
> footnote your Yasmin posts, which I do only to feign respectability.)
>
> —snip—
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On Sun, Jan 8, 2017 at 2:46 PM, Ken Friedman <ken.friedman.sheji@icloud.com>
wrote:
> Dear Jon,
>
> Yikes! I didn't suggest that people use footnotes in Yasmin posts. I was
> talking about the problem of poor reference and citation in research
> articles. I sometimes provide references in Yasmin posts to make it easy
> for people to find the items I discuss. I value your notes for the same
> reason. Since Yasmin is a discussion list, references aren't needed.
> Rigorous thinking always helps, with or without footnotes.
>
> Yours,
>
> Ken
>
> —
>
> Jon Ippolito wrote:
>
> —snip—
>
> Others have written at length about how a fresh genre or medium--or even
> gender--doesn't always measure up to the criteria inherited from older
> creative forms. Three texts that come to mind are Leo Steinberg's _Other
> Criteria_, Linda Nochlin's "Why Have There Been No Great Women Artists?"
> and Steve Dietz's "Why Have There Been No Great Net Artists?" [1][2][3] (I
> hope no one will take Ken Friedman's call for rigor to mean you have to
> footnote your Yasmin posts, which I do only to feign respectability.)
>
> —snip—
>
>
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