Sunday, August 17, 2014

Re: [Yasmin_discussions] ART, NEW MEDIA, AND SOCIAL MEMORY

Hello Yasminers,

ART, NEW MEDIA, AND SOCIAL MEMORY
was one of the liveliest Yasmin discussions
with nearly hundred feedback contributions from
dozens of people discussing early technologies
preservation, collecting. etc., etc.,

It would be great and might be useful to summarize
some of these separate threads perhaps with the i
incorporation of some earlier recorded surveys,
reviews (CRUMB etc.,). Such a compilation compliments
Roger's initiative on the roles of key technicians in
pioneering art and technology work

nina



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Re: [Yasmin_discussions] Loose ends

Hi all,

Here are some quick responses to posts from the past month. I apologize that the impending academic year makes it difficult to reply to every thread--there have been enough issues raised to warrant writing a sequel to our book ("Re-re-collection?").

* Other books

We would be remiss without citing some of the other books to come out recently, especially those that tackle issues of new media preservation. I think Rick already mentioned the Blackwell "Companion to Digital Art" that Christiane Paul is editing; Beryl Graham's Ashgate anthology "New Collecting" includes chapters by Pip Laurenson and Caitlin Jones on conservation; and Bloomsbury's "Digital Arts" by Cat Hope and John Ryan, written as a textbook, includes a sophisticated discussion of variable media preservation.

* Google and memory

I mentioned Bronac's comments about Google's erasure of history in its "DevArt" sponsorship to net artist Eryk Salvaggio. Apparently Eryk is writing a piece for Rhizome about the uncanny images that result when the Google Art Project robot catches sight of itself in a mirror. (God knows why they dressed it up like a Dalek in drag.)

* Variable Media Questionnaire and Digital Curation

I would love for some of the artists who have contributed their thoughts on the future of their work to this Yasmin discussion to record those perspectives on the Variable Media Questionnaire for posterity:

http://variablemediaquestionnaire.net

You can do this directly, or if you prefer an interlocutor (usually more fun!) email me and I'll give your contact info to the grad students in my Digital Curation class, who have the option to interview artists for our preservation class:

http://DigitalCuration.UMaine.edu

* New documentation tools

I'm glad to learn from Christiane and Clarisse Bardiot about two new tools for documenting the creation and exhibition of new media art, Botaniq and Rekall. I will add them to the list of software for my students to review.

* Big thanks to Roger!

Finally, I want to give Roger a huge thank you for organizing this forum and bringing so many important voices out of the woodwork, including key historical figures whose views on preservation I'd never read but hope will live on in ThoughtMesh and other archives.

Enjoy what's left of August, everyone!

jon
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Saturday, August 16, 2014

Re: [Yasmin_discussions] Re-Collection

Yasminers,

While this comment might avoid the primary issues, it could be that
even the vaguest evidence of works---including periods marked by an
absence of form---will stimulate imaginative responses through
speculation about what the indications are, once were, or might have
been.

Thanks,

Robert Thill

On 8/17/14, roger malina <rmalina@alum.mit.edu> wrote:
> Yasminers
>
> we are concluding our discussion with Rick Rinehart and Jon Ippolito
> around their book Re-Collection
>
> Re-collection Art, New Media, and Social Memory
>
> http://re-collection.net/
>
> we would welcome any final comments this weekend-
>
> clearly this is the beginning of the story- current archiving and
> restoration
> practices for non digital media have evolved over the centuries with past
> practices now considered un acceptable= and many older museums have closed
> and their collections dispersed
>
> the internet archive
> https://archive.org/index.php )
>
> functions on the basis of donations as they could not keep up with the
> volume-they
> state
> The Internet Archive was founded to build an Internet library. Its
> purposes include offering permanent access for researchers,
> historians, scholars, people with disabilities, and the general public
> to historical collections that exist in digital format.
>
> .... Archive has been receiving data donations fromAlexa Internet and
> others. In late 1999, the organization started to grow to include more
> well-rounded collections. Now the Internet Archive includes: texts,
> audio, moving images, and softwareas well as archived web pages in our
> collections, and provides specialized services for adaptive reading
> and information access for the blind and other persons with
> disabilities.
>
> Cloud storage is in the hands of commercial companies that make no
> commitment to archival storage
>
> i think i mentioned the work of a colleague expert in Mesopotamian
> clay tablets.. christine proust
>
> http://isaw.nyu.edu/people/alumni/2009-2010/christine-proust
>
> i remember in a talk she gave that many clay tablets were rescued
> because they were re used
> as building materials in the admin buildings of mesopotamia- there are
> millions of them now
> being dug out of clay walls= including exercises by students in their
> class work and the
> dissemination of new syllabi by the central educational
> administration= and no doubt also
> sketches by art students of the time
>
> too bad you cant recycle digital media into something useful that will
> last centuries
>
> roger malina
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[Yasmin_discussions] Re-Collection

Yasminers

we are concluding our discussion with Rick Rinehart and Jon Ippolito
around their book Re-Collection

Re-collection Art, New Media, and Social Memory

http://re-collection.net/

we would welcome any final comments this weekend-

clearly this is the beginning of the story- current archiving and restoration
practices for non digital media have evolved over the centuries with past
practices now considered un acceptable= and many older museums have closed
and their collections dispersed

the internet archive
https://archive.org/index.php )

functions on the basis of donations as they could not keep up with the
volume-they
state
The Internet Archive was founded to build an Internet library. Its
purposes include offering permanent access for researchers,
historians, scholars, people with disabilities, and the general public
to historical collections that exist in digital format.

.... Archive has been receiving data donations fromAlexa Internet and
others. In late 1999, the organization started to grow to include more
well-rounded collections. Now the Internet Archive includes: texts,
audio, moving images, and softwareas well as archived web pages in our
collections, and provides specialized services for adaptive reading
and information access for the blind and other persons with
disabilities.

Cloud storage is in the hands of commercial companies that make no
commitment to archival storage

i think i mentioned the work of a colleague expert in Mesopotamian
clay tablets.. christine proust

http://isaw.nyu.edu/people/alumni/2009-2010/christine-proust

i remember in a talk she gave that many clay tablets were rescued
because they were re used
as building materials in the admin buildings of mesopotamia- there are
millions of them now
being dug out of clay walls= including exercises by students in their
class work and the
dissemination of new syllabi by the central educational
administration= and no doubt also
sketches by art students of the time

too bad you cant recycle digital media into something useful that will
last centuries

roger malina
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Friday, August 15, 2014

[Yasmin_discussions] Fwd: [Yasmin: STEM - STEAM and satellite

yasminers

we are calling for final comments on the re-collection
discussion

next week we will start a discussion around stem to steam
here is a pre view of the kinds of topics

roger malina


---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: Annick2 <abureaud@gmail.com>
Date: Thu, Aug 14, 2014 at 4:10 PM
Subject: [Yasmin: STEM - STEAM and satellite
To: Yasmin <yasmin_announcements@estia.media.uoa.gr>


Dear Yasminers,

Recently Roger mentionned the STEAM/STEAM issue and calling for a
discussion on this list.

I don't know if mixed curriculum can be built and how they could be
sustainable in the long term, that is survived what a teacher or a
team has explored at a certain time in a certain environment.

But there are beautiful case studies like the Japanese ARTSAT project
that saw a team of over 70 people, from 2 universities (Tama Art
University and Tokyo University), one leading on the art, the other on
the science and engineering, with teachers and students, with artists,
musicians, engineers, scientists, and much more (support from JAXA,
the Japanese Space Agency, companies, and the whole network of radio
ham, etc.)
build an art satellite ARTSAT:INVADER that has been launched in
February and will deorbit any time soon.

The same group is finishing a Deep Space sculpture ARTSAT: DESPATCH to
be launched in December, a 3D printed spiral shape.

The INVADER project is currently part of a group show at the
MOT/Museum of Contemporary Art of Tokyo.

Project web site :
http://artsat.jp/en/about

Facebook page of the project :
https://www.facebook.com/artsat

This is one example of art/science collaborations, where the same
"object" has different goals. There are many more, specially around
satellites at the moment (or may be I see them because I am currently
researching art satellites).
Could this be a model ? Or just a project or two that cannot be
repeated ? Or should curricula be "project-based" with different
projects along the years ?

Annick
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Wednesday, August 13, 2014

Re: [Yasmin_discussions] re-collection: Vasulka Archives

Dear Richard,
Thanks for updating me with info about Steina and Woody Vasulka.   In Nov.-Dec. 1987,  my "Computer Angels" and the Vasulka's "The West" were the two exhibition filling the Fine Arts Center Art Gallery at the State University of New York at Stony Brook.  We also shared a catalog.  At the time, I was head of the art department at Pratt and adjust professor of computer graphics at SUNY Stony Brook.  I was also happy to spend time with the Vasulkas at ZKM Karlsruhe about ten years ago when I lectured there.  We're mutual friends of ZKM professor Michael Bielicky.

Best wishes for the success of you project.
Mel 

Professor Mel Alexenberg
Author of The Future of Art in a Postdigital Age: From Hellenistic to Hebraic Consciousness and Educating Artists for the Future: Learning at the Intersections of Art, Science, Technology, and Culture (both published by Intellect Books/University of Chicago Press) and in Hebrew: Dialogic Art in a Digital World: Judaism and Contemporary Art.
Former art professor, Columbia University, head of the art department, Pratt Institute, research fellow, MIT Center for Advanced Visual Studies, and professor at universities and art colleges in Israel
melalexenberg@yahoo.com, http://www.melalexenberg.com


On Monday, August 11, 2014 1:07 AM, Richard Lowenberg <rl@1st-mile.org> wrote:

>
>
>Thanks everyone for this very informative and important discussion.    It resonates with very real current involvements of mine, which I'll describe below.   
>
>By way of personal introduction:  I've been on a creative path since the mid-sixties, variously exploring our emergent 'information society', along the way having been a student helper at Nine Evenings, being one of the Kitchen's founding team in '71, initiating numerous arts-sciences collaborations, deploying early analog, digital and photonic media and tools, setting examples for open telecom. infrastructure and services at community, state and national scales, all within an integrated ecological context.      www.1st-mile.org   
  www.radlab.com   
>
>I have recently stepped into helping facilitate and realize the Vasulka (Steina and Woody) Archives.  Jon will recall a past effort to use MARCEL for Vasulka archiving.  Their work was also 'archived' by the Daniel Langois Foundation in an earlier iteration.    www.vasulka.org        www.fondation-langlois.org/html/e/page.php?NumPage=422
>
>There are a number of elements now converging to make the Vasulka Archives and some major upcoming London/Paris shows, a publication series and more, likely realities (and much work).
>
>The Brakhage Center at UC Boulder, by agreement, will now be the primary Vasulka Archive location and online node in the US.  The National Gallery of Art, (building the new Vasulka Chamber, to open in Oct.) in Reykjavik, Iceland, will also create a
Vasulka Archive, along  with nodes in Brno, CZ and Santa Fe, NM (home to the Vasulkas since 1980).    Much has already been done.  What seems most interesting to me (having known Woody and Steina since 1969), is the larger 'electronic media arts ecoystem' represented in their life's work and creative associations, from the '60s to the present.  Representing, linking to and providing long-term access to this dynamic 'electronic media arts ecosystem' is intended be a major aspect of the Vasulka archiving effort.
>
>In terms of the means of preservation and archiving, Woody's work especially, requires understandings not just of various video tape formats, photographs, and documents, but of 'old code' and one-of-a-kind machines, which want to live on.    My sense is that the Vasulka Archives could and should serve as a testbed for 'best practices' in preservation, archiving,
searchability, open public access, learning, international cultural support and exchange.
>
>One other note:  I am Board President of the annual CURRENTS: Santa Fe International New Media Festival.    http://currentsnewmedia.org/   
>I am now considering the likelihood and worth of working to arrange/host an "Old & New Media Preservation" working meeting and public forum, to be held as part of CURRENTS, June 2015.    If the idea, place and time seem right, I'd greatly appreciate, ideas, involvements and recommendations, so as to use this opportunity to move the field, current efforts and required funding forward.
>
>Much more to discuss about the devil in the details, if folks are interested, on or off this list.
>All creative best,
>Richard
>
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>1st-Mile Institute          www.1st-mile.org 
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Tuesday, August 12, 2014

[Yasmin_discussions] wrapping up re-collecting and new STEAM discussion topic next week

Yasminers

we are wrapping up this week the discussion with rick ippolito and rick
rinehart around conservation and restoration of new media art triggered
by their book

http://re-collection.net/

let me encourage yasminers to inject final comments - Jon
is going to be transferring all the posts to thoughtmesh

the discussion has triggered proposals for some meetings between
experts on the topic

PROPOSED NEW DISCUSSION

we are thinking to organise the next yasmin discussion around the
stem to steam debate that is very hot in the USA right now=

STEM is the trainig of professionals in science, engineering,
technology and math

the current controversies surrounds dealing with the issue of claimed
shortage of trained scientists and
engineers, but also the problems of gender and cultural diversity
among scientists and engineers ( see for instance the recent US
census report on STEM (
http://www.census.gov/newsroom/releases/archives/employment_occupations/cb14-130.html
)
there are striking statistics like : Approximately 14 percent of
engineers were women
and
74 percent of those who have a bachelor's degree in science,
technology, engineering and math —
commonly referred to as STEM — are not employed in STEM occupations

something is very vvrong about the way we train scientists and
engineers- and part of the problem
is perhaps the artificial segregation of scientists and engineers from
professionals in the arts, design
and humanities

- i just wrote a review around the issue which is available at:

http://leonardo.info/reviews/aug2014/malina-STEM.php

we have just spent several weeks on YASMIN discussing the archiving
and restoration of new media art- the pioneers
in technological art were instrumental in the developing of whole
industries of art and technology
in entertainment gaming, but also social media, cultural industries
more broadly- and we are perhaps guilty ourselves of ghettoizing
their contributions in the art world rather than looking at the
broader cultural impact that work in
art, science and technology has had

anyway-we would be interested in knowing if yasmisers would be
interested in discussing the STEM to STEAM
topic

if you would be interested in being an invited responded please drop
me an email to rmalina@alum.mit.edu

roger malina

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