RB
i think that you make a good point= about the stats on gender hiding
the underlying issues
and paul fishwick has opened one aspect with his perspective on
modelling rather than coding
franck ancel has also added to this with his comment about lack of
french artists
in that particular exhibitions selection
one of the underlying issue is the general problem of 'homophily'- and
the disconcerting
studies that show that internet communities tend to re enforce
homophily ( bruno latour's
research group has interesting results on polarisation on line around
issues)- the
early techno-romanticism about the internet is confronted with the
reality of our
social behaviours
its ironic as at the same time all the work on creativity and
innovation emphasise the
need for open flows of ideas across boundaries
curators clearly play a crucial role- as do other kinds of gatekeepers
( the problem
in wikipedia for instance)- there was interesting work on the gatekeepers in the
art and technology field 15 years ago-i think monika fleischman was
involved=maybe
someone remembers the study=
if gatekeepers are homophylic then how can the art-science-technology
be generative
of new approaches and ideas
if we are serious about the benefits of trans-disciplinarity= in terms
of disciplines-then one of
the underlying issues is ensuring social diversity in the way we go
about developing
communities of practice- and that means diversity in all its aspects
including gender
roger
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From: rbuiani <rbuiani@gmail.com>
Date: Wed, Jan 29, 2014 at 1:52 PM
Subject: Re: [Yasmin_discussions] [Yasmin: bogota columbia
To: YASMIN DISCUSSIONS <yasmin_discussions@estia.media.uoa.gr>
This is a very needed debate, but all I keep seeing here are stats and
percentages. We might go beyond these data and looked at the
motivations that caused them.
Is it just a gender pressure/assumptions (women ought to be in other
professions)?
is it because the field is dominated by men and women feel intimidated
or not welcome (ie it is a boys club)?
is it because coding is conceptually understood and practically
approached in a way that simply doesn't appeal women?
is it the teaching that only teaches you how to code and program
certain items/accomplish certain tasks?
frankly, I am a bit tired of hearing people complaining that women
don't go into computer science or are misrepresented or failed to be
represented. now I would like to see a thorough analysis. I don't
think it is just a question of numbers, there is a problem with
content and epistemologies. I am interested in anything that has been
written on the matter (no stats, I have them already, they are not
adding anything to what we already know)
my two cents. sincerely curious and open to whomever would like to direct me.
thanks
rb
On Jan 29, 2014, at 2:31 PM, roger malina wrote:
> anne-sarah
>
> i am moving this discussion over to the yasmin discussion list so
> please reply there !!
>
> greetings- your comment about the gender balance in this exhibition
> ( 3/24) is part of a much larger problem
>
> i found this statistic on the web
>
> In 2010, women received on average about 14 percent of computer
> science undergraduate degrees at major research universities, and that
> number has not changed much since then. (huffington post)
>
> In our own university i think its 17% but in our Art and Technology
> program we are 40% 60%
>
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roberta buiani
PhD communication and culture, York University
programmer ArtSci Salon http://artscisalon.wordpress.com/
program advisor Subtle Technologies Festival http://subtletechnologies.com
http://atomarborea.net
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