My main interest is in modeling and systems. I am curious as to whether any Yasminers
find the following of interest. Consider it a way of linking art and design to systems thinking.
In my Fall class on Modeling & Simulation, it represents one method to interest ATEC
an CS students in designing models.
Another method I have started using is to start with natural language. We used food
recipes last semester (lots of information flows in recipes to add to their cultural
appeal).
-paul
Paul Fishwick, PhD
Distinguished University Chair of Arts, Technology, and Emerging Communication
Professor of Computer Science
Director, Creative Automata Laboratory
The University of Texas at Dallas
Arts & Technology
800 West Campbell Road, AT10
Richardson, TX 75080-3021
Home: utdallas.edu/atec/fishwick
Blog 1: medium.com/@metaphorz
> On Aug 7, 2017, at 10:42 PM, roger malina <rmalina@alum.mit.edu> wrote:
>
> yasminers
>
> art/tech pioneer frieder nake sends us this comment on our
> steam to stem discussion
>
> he brings us a salutory reminder that the meta discussion, which
> i have been party to, may not be very relevant to practioners ! nor
> in face of the very real problems our world is facing
>
> roger
>
> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> From: nake <nake@informatik.uni-bremen.de>
>
>
>
> Dear Roger,
>
> I occasionally read a statement in this long, heavy, demanding ongoing
> STEM and STEAM and THEMAS and huevos rancheros discourses, and then I
> give up again reading (for it justs takes too much of my time), but I
> have not said anything even though I often felt I wanted to do so.
>
> For me, much of these intelligent essays appears as meta-polylog with
> way too much of meta. Here a three or four scattered notes, really
> scattered only, not even the attempt at anything substantial, nothing
> more than a Sunday morning remark by a wounded soul.
>
> At any given moment over the last five years or more, I had between 20
> and 25 students at Bachelor or Master levels (plus five at doctoral
> level) whose theses I was supervising. Their topics span a wide
> spectrum between art, media, design, and computer science. They
> require so much time to advice that the meta discourse gets touched
> once in a while but is not really interesting. Not more than a nice
> remark, not touching the substance of what those students are doing.
>
> There are about 200 new and unread books sitting around my desk
> wanting to be studied. They are about political, media, artistic,
> philosophical, scientific matters. I allow myself for about two hours
> on Sunday mornings at 5 a.m. to read a few pages. So I will die before
> I have read 5% of this growing and incredibly interesting mass of
> intellectual production. These books deal with issues from those
> disciplines, hardly any of them are meta.
>
> There is a big problem in the world: the return of religious wars.
> There is another huge problem in the world: the climate change. And
> yet another two: the outrageous attacks of capitalism on everything
> human, and the growth of right-wing political movements. To call any
> of these developments a "problem" is, in some sense, belittling. They
> are not "problems" of the kind you deal with in art or mathematics.
> They concern democracy and enlightenment and we cannot even understand
> anyof the basics if we don't approach it on the level of dialectics.
> The meta issues are far away. Almost like a fund-raising educational
> campain.
>
>
> Vis-à-vis such scattered remarks, I don't see much space or time (no
> matter how you count dimensions) for those meta-questions. I am
> already fully occupied when I try to do a decent teaching job.
>
> Frieder Nake
>
>
>
>
>
> On 06/08/17 01:46, roger malina wrote:
>
> yasminers
> i had a chance to talk to marcus novak at the leonardo 50th birthday
> part at sheila pinkel's home
> in los angeles
>
> we discussed his THEMAS concept as an alternative to the stem to steam
> discussions- as he points put "It builds upon the successes of
> STEM/STEAM, with greater emphasis on the humanities, creativity, and
> synthesis." the us national academies study
> http://sites.nationalacademies.org/PGA/bhew/humanitiesandstem/index.htm
> also emphasises that the humanites need to be fully integrated into
> the stem to steam discussion
>
> http://sites.nationalacademies.org/PGA/bhew/humanitiesandstem/index.htm
>
> here is marcus ( hope you will tell us more) web site:
>
> http://themas.mat.ucsb.edu/
>
> Knowledge is often presented to us in fragmented form. We become
> informed about the parts, but lose the sense of the whole. We gain
> expertise, but lose balance. This course proposes to treat knowledge
> as a transdisciplinary, organic, n-dimensional continuum.
>
> "Mediated Worlds" examines how technologies and humanities (means and
> ends), engineering and mathematics (concrete and abstract), and arts
> and sciences (synthesis and analysis) inform all aspects of how we
> come to know and make the world.
>
> Touching upon themes ranging from media arts and digital humanities to
> virtual reality and future cinema, from generative systems and the
> poetics of new technologies to non-Euclidean geometries and
> n-dimensional spacetime, from liquid architectures and new music to
> pattern formation and algorithmic aesthetics, from artificial life and
> machine learning to soft robotics and bioengineering, from world
> mythologies and ancient philosophies to cognitive psychology and
> neuroscience, from thermodynamics and symmetry operations to genomics
> and new materials, from quantum entanglement and live performance to
> synthetic ecologies and the Anthropocene, this course presents an
> interconnected model of knowledge, learning, creative discovery, and
> 21st century citizenship.
>
> _____________________________________
>
> A THEMAS COURSE:
>
> The THEMAS*** model proposes a continuum across disciplines previously
> separated by narrow specializations. It builds upon the successes of
> STEM/STEAM, with greater emphasis on the humanities, creativity, and
> synthesis.
>
> ***Technologies Humanities Engineering Mathematics Arts Sciences
>
> roger malina
> is somewhere in colorado
>
>
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