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Yasmin_discussions Digest, Vol 12, Issue 2

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Today's Topics:

1. reinforcing Jon, Sofian, and Marian (YASMIN DISCUSSIONS)
2. Introductions (YASMIN DISCUSSIONS)


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Message: 1
Date: Sun, 21 Jul 2019 10:42:19 -0700
From: YASMIN DISCUSSIONS <yasmin_discussions@ntlab.gr>
To: yasmin_discussions@ntlab.gr
Subject: [Yasmin_discussions] reinforcing Jon, Sofian, and Marian
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Dear Fellow Yasminers,

I just wanted to add a little to what Jon Ippolito, Sofian Audry,
and Marian Mazzone have already said about AI, and on the
same two general themes:

First, our current AI is not nearly as "intelligent" as the general
public believes it to be -- but at the same time, we perhaps do
not appreciate the enormous impact it's going to have on human
society.

The situation, to me, is reminiscent of how Google was at first
underestimated: "It's only search," people would say -- but as
it turns out, search is pretty darn important! Not only the search
for the right dog food, but also the search for the right college
major; the right partner; the right philosophy of life -- and now
Google is one of the most influential companies on the planet.

Likewise, our current neural net-based AI is "only" pattern
recognition; but a) computers (after a slow start) have become
frighteningly proficient at it -- able, for example, to learn the
rules of chess only by watching games being played!, and
b) a very large percentage of even human behavior -- much
larger than we would like to admit! -- is nothing more than
pattern, as, for example, our patterns of verbal and facial
behavior in conversation. (And this perhaps the ultimate
import ( https://www.mdpi.com/2076-0752/8/2/69 ) of
Frieder Nake's expression, "the horrors of computability".)

And the second point I'd like to make in reinforcing Jon,
Sofian, and Marian is that art -- and not board games -- is
the arena in which we humans really have a chance to get
a grip on the evolving situation vis a vis our machines.

Regrads
Glenn

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G. W. ("Glenn") Smith is an English Lit major turned
software engineer turned kinetic sculptor; the author of the
BLAST (blocked asynchronous communication) data
communications protocol; and the holder of two patents
in the field of electro-mechanical display systems.





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Message: 2
Date: Mon, 22 Jul 2019 00:37:34 +0000
From: YASMIN DISCUSSIONS <yasmin_discussions@ntlab.gr>
To: YASMIN DISCUSSIONS <yasmin_discussions@ntlab.gr>
Subject: [Yasmin_discussions] Introductions
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Hello everyone,

I was recommended to this list by Vicky Sowry from the Australian Network for Art and Technology. I've been working on a book chapter/paper/report for this years publication of GISWatch<https://www.giswatch.org/> (Global Information Society Watch). This year GISWatch is focusing on AI. My paper, Skirting the Uncanny Valley, looks at the impact of AI on creative industries with an Australian focus on developments in policy. The first draft has been submitted to the editor.

I'm a filmmaker with a background in electronic arts and ICTs. After researching and writing this paper I've started to sketch up an idea for a film that takes a more philosophical look at AI and humanity. Broad brushstrokes at present, but keen to learn from everyone here, particularly if there are already films on said subject.

My latest film, Forged from Fire<https://forgedfromfirefilm.com/>, makes its Melbourne debut tonight at the Melbourne Documentary Film Festival. Other, more recent films, Ocean in a Drop<https://vimeo.com/249280522> and India's rural internet avantgard<https://vimeo.com/showcase/4602868>, have taken an ethnographic look at the impact ICTs have made on rural and tribal communities in India's north-east.

Looking forward what transpires here.

Andrew
Andrew Garton | Lecturer and Adjunct Industry Fellow
Media and Communication, Swinburne University
agarton@swin.edu.au<mailto:agarton@swin.edu.au> | +61409948280
andrewgarton.com<https://andrewgarton.com> | secessionfilms.com<https://secessionfilms.com>



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