Sunday, July 10, 2011

[Yasmin_discussions] An interesting article: Science to Art, and Vice Versa

Dear Colleagues,

This article may interest some of the readers of this list.

Ken

Professor Ken Friedman, PhD, DSc (hc), FDRS | University Distinguished Professor | Dean, Faculty of Design | Swinburne University of Technology | Melbourne, Australia | kenfriedman@groupwise.swin.edu.au | Ph: +61 3 9214 6078 | Faculty www.swinburne.edu.au/design

Fluxus and the Essential Questions of Life | University of Chicago Press | http://www.press.uchicago.edu/presssite/metadata.epl?isbn=9780226033594

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Prototype: Science to Art, and Vice Versa
By AMY WALLACE
A sculptor and a lighting artist have very different techniques but the same goal: to promote understanding by finding new ways of seeing the world.

http://www.nytimes.com/2011/07/10/business/science-to-art-and-vice-versa-prototype.html?emc=eta1


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Thursday, June 23, 2011

[Yasmin_discussions] Space 140

Dear Yasminers,

On 10th January 2011, I decided to leave the list Yasmin to
createanything else in resonance with the Tunisian Revolution.
Today, I return to the list and I invite you to discover a new project.
Space 140is open for you. Best regards from Tunis. FA

http://www.remu.fr/space140/accueil

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Monday, June 20, 2011

[Yasmin_discussions] FW: art and science agency

Dear Yasminers,
I am Houssine SOUSSI from Paris and I am your moderator for this week.
Just a reminder to new members of yasmin, it would be great if you could send a brief post to the list introducing yourself and your interests relevant to art and science in the mediterranean region.
soussi

> Date: Sat, 18 Jun 2011 10:26:01 -0300
> From: zavenpare@gmail.com
> To: yasmin_discussions@estia.media.uoa.gr
> Subject: Re: [Yasmin_discussions] art and science agency
>
> Roger,
>
> I completely agree with you, and transactional analysis may some times solves
> ours relations with institutions, and not only at the Iméra.
>
> yours sincerely,
>
> Zaven Paré
>
> 2011/6/17 roger malina <rmalina@alum.mit.edu>
>
> > hi george and yasminers
> >
> > I am receptive to your summary of stateofmind as:
> >
> > ""Thestatofmind project can be thought of a relational space that
> > includes its orientation and underlying discourse, meaning the project
> > hasn't been planned in a previous stage and then put to action. All
> > the people that have had to relate to the project had have decisions
> > to make and have therefore contributed to the project's becoming.
> > People are therefore acting as process nodes in an ongoing thought
> > process with respect to the issues and questions that launched the
> > whole process.""
> >
> > indeed in all the discussions on networking, one sometimes looses the
> > idea of agency= networks are interesting in a real sense
> > if they enable different kinds of action of the world-
> >
> > you then go on to state:
> > ""All institutions whether governmental or not deal with agency, the
> > USDAT Is a good example. But in nearly all cases there is a clear
> > distinction between those who organize and those who produce art. An
> > interesting example is artist Anton Vidokle's e-flux magazine, a
> > commercial entreprise that generates funding for art projects.
> > Although there too there is distinction.
> > ""
> >
> > where you introduce a dichotomy between 'those who organise and those
> > who produce art"
> >
> > the recent discussion on the governmental budget cuts in holland to
> > some of the most innovative media arts
> > groups perhaps tests the dichotomy that you set up- organisations like
> > V2 not only advocated, promoted,
> > enabled, produce new kinds of art making and they fit neither in an
> > 'organie' or a 'produce category but
> > clearly both
> >
> > one of the aspects of networks is that it makes certain boundaries more
> > porous
> >
> > roger
> >
> > here is the response from the dutch organisations which articulates a
> > number of very
> > pertinent issues on art agency in society !!
> >
> > roger
> >
> >
> >
> > From: V2_ <joris@v2.nl>
> > Date: June 17, 2011 10:52:01 GMT+02:00
> >
> > Response New Media & Art Institutions to Governmental Cuts
> >
> > Source of innovation is eliminated
> > http://www.v2.nl/news/response-to-governmental-cuts
> >
> > Netherlands, June 15 2011
> >
> > Dear Mr Zijlstra
> > Dear Members of the House of Representatives
> >
> > One of the many decisions in your arts policy paper "More than quality; a
> > new
> > vision on arts policy", is the liquidation of the total infrastructure
> > for new media
> > and art. The media arts & technology sector, which has acquired a place in
> > arts
> > policy in the past 8 years, has been abolished. The socalled 'development
> > institutions': STEIM, Waag Society, V2_, Submarine Channel, WORM and
> > Mediamatic are losing their structural funding. In addition to that
> > the Netherlands
> > Media Art Institute, a visual arts institution which also works in the
> > media arts field,
> > loses its government funding. These structural institutional resources will
> > be
> > rerouted into a new Fund for the Creative Industry, which's mission is
> > to stimulate
> > the social and economic value of the creative industry as a whole.
> >
> > New media art is an independent art discipline
> >
> > The existance of new media as an independent art discipline, including
> > artistic
> > production, audiences, (inter)national networks, and events, is
> > completely denied
> > in this proposed new arts policy.
> >
> > New media art is a discipline which questions and researches the
> > technological
> > developments and challenges of our times, and designs new applications for
> > these issues. It has its own idiom and art practice. It is an
> > independent discipline
> > sustaining independent thematics, international networks of media
> > labs, festivals,
> > publications and presentations. The Dutch model of these cooperating new
> > media
> > labs with crossovers into other fields (social, educational,
> > economical) has been
> > an exemplary model since years. The above mentioned 'development
> > institutions'
> > are internationally renowned, part of vast international networks, and
> > contribute
> > to the position of the Netherlands in the fields of new media and art.
> >
> > Paradox: punished for success
> >
> > Like no other arts field, new media art makes connections to other
> > fields. Its R&D
> > functions are relevant towards the total field of culture, as well as
> > heritage and
> > media. Exchange with science is continually growing, it plays a vital
> > role in the
> > innovation of social domains, and has a large impact on the current renewal
> > of
> > education. The paradox now is that new media art is widely acknowledged and
> > seen as very relevant, but its source: artistic research including its
> > audience
> > outreach, autonomous art prodcution and international network, will now be
> > discontinued.
> >
> > Project based vs structural
> >
> > The policy paper indicates a choice for a project based way of working, and
> > for
> > that reason a total cut in institutional funding for R&D. This is a
> > very remarkable
> > way of reasoning as R&D activities need long term commitment in order to be
> > able to develop from experiment to result. It also requires excellent
> > networking
> > and a sustainable infrastructure, including complex relationships to
> > social fields,
> > business and science. The new media institutions like no other have paved
> > the
> > way for such cooperations, and have shown that arts, sciences, business and
> > society in general can work together in meaningful coalitions.
> > International
> > cooperations that have been opened up to Dutch partners also exist thanks
> > to
> > long term policy. With the abolishment of structural support of these
> > new media art
> > institutions, the basis is washed away and it will be impossible in
> > the future to
> > enter into long term commitments. Like European funding for and
> > participation in
> > research and projects, and participation in national research programs.
> > A project based way of working interferes with continuity.
> >
> > Talent development
> >
> > The new Fund for the Creative Industry is also supposed to work on talent
> > development in a project based manner. This is contrary to the needs of the
> > educational field where there is a demand for structural connections. The
> > new
> > media and art institutions have acknowledged that and play an important
> > role in
> > development of talent and skills through the programs they have set up
> > together with vocational institutions and universities. They also
> > offer internships
> > and work with PHD students. The very same sustainable long term structures
> > are
> > necessary here in order to be able to structurally work within education.
> >
> > The way the Fund for the Creative Industry should work!
> >
> > New media art can only contribute to the mission of enlarging the social
> > and
> > economic value of the creative industry, in case the Fund is enabled to:
> >
> > (1) issue longer term institutional subsidies and
> >
> > (2) means are explicitely made available for artistic research,
> > artistic production
> > and audience based activities
> >
> > We sincerely hope that you will involve the new media and art
> > institutions in the
> > set up and creation of the new Fund, and that the above arguments will lead
> > to
> > the desired adjustments. We will be more than happy to share our views with
> > you,
> > as well as the knowledge that we have in the area of international new
> > media
> > arts policy.
> >
> > Yours sincerely,
> >
> > V2_
> > Waag Society
> > STEIM
> > Mediamatic
> > WORM
> > Submarine Channel
> > Netherlands Media Art Institute
> >
> >
> > Hello Roger,
> >
> > It could be construed as that indeed.
> >
> > All institutions whether governmental or not deal with agency, the
> > USDAT Is a good example. But in nearly all cases there is a clear
> > distinction between those who organize and those who produce art. An
> > interesting example is artist Anton Vidokle's e-flux magazine, a
> > commercial entreprise that generates funding for art projects.
> > Although there too there is distinction.
> >
> > Thestatofmind project can be thought of a relational space that
> > includes its orientation and underlying discourse, meaning the project
> > hasn't been planned in a previous stage and then put to action. All
> > the people that have had to relate to the project had have decisions
> > to make and have therefore contributed to the project's becoming.
> > People are therefore acting as process nodes in an ongoing thought
> > process with respect to the issues and questions that launched the
> > whole process.
> >
> > More simply said: instead of putting objectives relating to values or
> > positions (answers or attitudes that are prior to the project and that
> > condition its development and heading), thestateofmind has been born
> > of questions and problematics, and its purpose of existence is
> > creating collaborative dialectics from those questions, and issues.
> >
> > Instead of reaching consensus as in social networks, the project is
> > creating dissensus, and that leaves open dialectical possibilities.
> >
> >
> > G. H. Rabbath
> >
> > _______________________________________________
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Saturday, June 18, 2011

Re: [Yasmin_discussions] art and science agency

Roger,

I completely agree with you, and transactional analysis may some times solves
ours relations with institutions, and not only at the Iméra.

yours sincerely,

Zaven Paré

2011/6/17 roger malina <rmalina@alum.mit.edu>

> hi george and yasminers
>
> I am receptive to your summary of stateofmind as:
>
> ""Thestatofmind project can be thought of a relational space that
> includes its orientation and underlying discourse, meaning the project
> hasn't been planned in a previous stage and then put to action. All
> the people that have had to relate to the project had have decisions
> to make and have therefore contributed to the project's becoming.
> People are therefore acting as process nodes in an ongoing thought
> process with respect to the issues and questions that launched the
> whole process.""
>
> indeed in all the discussions on networking, one sometimes looses the
> idea of agency= networks are interesting in a real sense
> if they enable different kinds of action of the world-
>
> you then go on to state:
> ""All institutions whether governmental or not deal with agency, the
> USDAT Is a good example. But in nearly all cases there is a clear
> distinction between those who organize and those who produce art. An
> interesting example is artist Anton Vidokle's e-flux magazine, a
> commercial entreprise that generates funding for art projects.
> Although there too there is distinction.
> ""
>
> where you introduce a dichotomy between 'those who organise and those
> who produce art"
>
> the recent discussion on the governmental budget cuts in holland to
> some of the most innovative media arts
> groups perhaps tests the dichotomy that you set up- organisations like
> V2 not only advocated, promoted,
> enabled, produce new kinds of art making and they fit neither in an
> 'organie' or a 'produce category but
> clearly both
>
> one of the aspects of networks is that it makes certain boundaries more
> porous
>
> roger
>
> here is the response from the dutch organisations which articulates a
> number of very
> pertinent issues on art agency in society !!
>
> roger
>
>
>
> From: V2_ <joris@v2.nl>
> Date: June 17, 2011 10:52:01 GMT+02:00
>
> Response New Media & Art Institutions to Governmental Cuts
>
> Source of innovation is eliminated
> http://www.v2.nl/news/response-to-governmental-cuts
>
> Netherlands, June 15 2011
>
> Dear Mr Zijlstra
> Dear Members of the House of Representatives
>
> One of the many decisions in your arts policy paper "More than quality; a
> new
> vision on arts policy", is the liquidation of the total infrastructure
> for new media
> and art. The media arts & technology sector, which has acquired a place in
> arts
> policy in the past 8 years, has been abolished. The socalled 'development
> institutions': STEIM, Waag Society, V2_, Submarine Channel, WORM and
> Mediamatic are losing their structural funding. In addition to that
> the Netherlands
> Media Art Institute, a visual arts institution which also works in the
> media arts field,
> loses its government funding. These structural institutional resources will
> be
> rerouted into a new Fund for the Creative Industry, which's mission is
> to stimulate
> the social and economic value of the creative industry as a whole.
>
> New media art is an independent art discipline
>
> The existance of new media as an independent art discipline, including
> artistic
> production, audiences, (inter)national networks, and events, is
> completely denied
> in this proposed new arts policy.
>
> New media art is a discipline which questions and researches the
> technological
> developments and challenges of our times, and designs new applications for
> these issues. It has its own idiom and art practice. It is an
> independent discipline
> sustaining independent thematics, international networks of media
> labs, festivals,
> publications and presentations. The Dutch model of these cooperating new
> media
> labs with crossovers into other fields (social, educational,
> economical) has been
> an exemplary model since years. The above mentioned 'development
> institutions'
> are internationally renowned, part of vast international networks, and
> contribute
> to the position of the Netherlands in the fields of new media and art.
>
> Paradox: punished for success
>
> Like no other arts field, new media art makes connections to other
> fields. Its R&D
> functions are relevant towards the total field of culture, as well as
> heritage and
> media. Exchange with science is continually growing, it plays a vital
> role in the
> innovation of social domains, and has a large impact on the current renewal
> of
> education. The paradox now is that new media art is widely acknowledged and
> seen as very relevant, but its source: artistic research including its
> audience
> outreach, autonomous art prodcution and international network, will now be
> discontinued.
>
> Project based vs structural
>
> The policy paper indicates a choice for a project based way of working, and
> for
> that reason a total cut in institutional funding for R&D. This is a
> very remarkable
> way of reasoning as R&D activities need long term commitment in order to be
> able to develop from experiment to result. It also requires excellent
> networking
> and a sustainable infrastructure, including complex relationships to
> social fields,
> business and science. The new media institutions like no other have paved
> the
> way for such cooperations, and have shown that arts, sciences, business and
> society in general can work together in meaningful coalitions.
> International
> cooperations that have been opened up to Dutch partners also exist thanks
> to
> long term policy. With the abolishment of structural support of these
> new media art
> institutions, the basis is washed away and it will be impossible in
> the future to
> enter into long term commitments. Like European funding for and
> participation in
> research and projects, and participation in national research programs.
> A project based way of working interferes with continuity.
>
> Talent development
>
> The new Fund for the Creative Industry is also supposed to work on talent
> development in a project based manner. This is contrary to the needs of the
> educational field where there is a demand for structural connections. The
> new
> media and art institutions have acknowledged that and play an important
> role in
> development of talent and skills through the programs they have set up
> together with vocational institutions and universities. They also
> offer internships
> and work with PHD students. The very same sustainable long term structures
> are
> necessary here in order to be able to structurally work within education.
>
> The way the Fund for the Creative Industry should work!
>
> New media art can only contribute to the mission of enlarging the social
> and
> economic value of the creative industry, in case the Fund is enabled to:
>
> (1) issue longer term institutional subsidies and
>
> (2) means are explicitely made available for artistic research,
> artistic production
> and audience based activities
>
> We sincerely hope that you will involve the new media and art
> institutions in the
> set up and creation of the new Fund, and that the above arguments will lead
> to
> the desired adjustments. We will be more than happy to share our views with
> you,
> as well as the knowledge that we have in the area of international new
> media
> arts policy.
>
> Yours sincerely,
>
> V2_
> Waag Society
> STEIM
> Mediamatic
> WORM
> Submarine Channel
> Netherlands Media Art Institute
>
>
> Hello Roger,
>
> It could be construed as that indeed.
>
> All institutions whether governmental or not deal with agency, the
> USDAT Is a good example. But in nearly all cases there is a clear
> distinction between those who organize and those who produce art. An
> interesting example is artist Anton Vidokle's e-flux magazine, a
> commercial entreprise that generates funding for art projects.
> Although there too there is distinction.
>
> Thestatofmind project can be thought of a relational space that
> includes its orientation and underlying discourse, meaning the project
> hasn't been planned in a previous stage and then put to action. All
> the people that have had to relate to the project had have decisions
> to make and have therefore contributed to the project's becoming.
> People are therefore acting as process nodes in an ongoing thought
> process with respect to the issues and questions that launched the
> whole process.
>
> More simply said: instead of putting objectives relating to values or
> positions (answers or attitudes that are prior to the project and that
> condition its development and heading), thestateofmind has been born
> of questions and problematics, and its purpose of existence is
> creating collaborative dialectics from those questions, and issues.
>
> Instead of reaching consensus as in social networks, the project is
> creating dissensus, and that leaves open dialectical possibilities.
>
>
> G. H. Rabbath
>
> _______________________________________________
> Yasmin_discussions mailing list
> Yasmin_discussions@estia.media.uoa.gr
> http://estia.media.uoa.gr/mailman/listinfo/yasmin_discussions
>
> Yasmin URL: http://www.media.uoa.gr/yasmin
>
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Friday, June 17, 2011

[Yasmin_discussions] art and science agency

hi george and yasminers

I am receptive to your summary of stateofmind as:

""Thestatofmind project can be thought of a relational space that
includes its orientation and underlying discourse, meaning the project
hasn't been planned in a previous stage and then put to action. All
the people that have had to relate to the project had have decisions
to make and have therefore contributed to the project's becoming.
People are therefore acting as process nodes in an ongoing thought
process with respect to the issues and questions that launched the
whole process.""

indeed in all the discussions on networking, one sometimes looses the
idea of agency= networks are interesting in a real sense
if they enable different kinds of action of the world-

you then go on to state:
""All institutions whether governmental or not deal with agency, the
USDAT Is a good example. But in nearly all cases there is a clear
distinction between those who organize and those who produce art. An
interesting example is artist Anton Vidokle's e-flux magazine, a
commercial entreprise that generates funding for art projects.
Although there too there is distinction.
""

where you introduce a dichotomy between 'those who organise and those
who produce art"

the recent discussion on the governmental budget cuts in holland to
some of the most innovative media arts
groups perhaps tests the dichotomy that you set up- organisations like
V2 not only advocated, promoted,
enabled, produce new kinds of art making and they fit neither in an
'organie' or a 'produce category but
clearly both

one of the aspects of networks is that it makes certain boundaries more porous

roger

here is the response from the dutch organisations which articulates a
number of very
pertinent issues on art agency in society !!

roger

From: V2_ <joris@v2.nl>
Date: June 17, 2011 10:52:01 GMT+02:00

Response New Media & Art Institutions to Governmental Cuts

Source of innovation is eliminated
http://www.v2.nl/news/response-to-governmental-cuts

Netherlands, June 15 2011

Dear Mr Zijlstra
Dear Members of the House of Representatives

One of the many decisions in your arts policy paper "More than quality; a new
vision on arts policy", is the liquidation of the total infrastructure
for new media
and art. The media arts & technology sector, which has acquired a place in arts
policy in the past 8 years, has been abolished. The socalled 'development
institutions': STEIM, Waag Society, V2_, Submarine Channel, WORM and
Mediamatic are losing their structural funding. In addition to that
the Netherlands
Media Art Institute, a visual arts institution which also works in the
media arts field,
loses its government funding. These structural institutional resources will be
rerouted into a new Fund for the Creative Industry, which's mission is
to stimulate
the social and economic value of the creative industry as a whole.

New media art is an independent art discipline

The existance of new media as an independent art discipline, including artistic
production, audiences, (inter)national networks, and events, is
completely denied
in this proposed new arts policy.

New media art is a discipline which questions and researches the technological
developments and challenges of our times, and designs new applications for
these issues. It has its own idiom and art practice. It is an
independent discipline
sustaining independent thematics, international networks of media
labs, festivals,
publications and presentations. The Dutch model of these cooperating new media
labs with crossovers into other fields (social, educational,
economical) has been
an exemplary model since years. The above mentioned 'development institutions'
are internationally renowned, part of vast international networks, and
contribute
to the position of the Netherlands in the fields of new media and art.

Paradox: punished for success

Like no other arts field, new media art makes connections to other
fields. Its R&D
functions are relevant towards the total field of culture, as well as
heritage and
media. Exchange with science is continually growing, it plays a vital
role in the
innovation of social domains, and has a large impact on the current renewal of
education. The paradox now is that new media art is widely acknowledged and
seen as very relevant, but its source: artistic research including its audience
outreach, autonomous art prodcution and international network, will now be
discontinued.

Project based vs structural

The policy paper indicates a choice for a project based way of working, and for
that reason a total cut in institutional funding for R&D. This is a
very remarkable
way of reasoning as R&D activities need long term commitment in order to be
able to develop from experiment to result. It also requires excellent networking
and a sustainable infrastructure, including complex relationships to
social fields,
business and science. The new media institutions like no other have paved the
way for such cooperations, and have shown that arts, sciences, business and
society in general can work together in meaningful coalitions. International
cooperations that have been opened up to Dutch partners also exist thanks to
long term policy. With the abolishment of structural support of these
new media art
institutions, the basis is washed away and it will be impossible in
the future to
enter into long term commitments. Like European funding for and participation in
research and projects, and participation in national research programs.
A project based way of working interferes with continuity.

Talent development

The new Fund for the Creative Industry is also supposed to work on talent
development in a project based manner. This is contrary to the needs of the
educational field where there is a demand for structural connections. The new
media and art institutions have acknowledged that and play an important role in
development of talent and skills through the programs they have set up
together with vocational institutions and universities. They also
offer internships
and work with PHD students. The very same sustainable long term structures are
necessary here in order to be able to structurally work within education.

The way the Fund for the Creative Industry should work!

New media art can only contribute to the mission of enlarging the social and
economic value of the creative industry, in case the Fund is enabled to:

(1) issue longer term institutional subsidies and

(2) means are explicitely made available for artistic research,
artistic production
and audience based activities

We sincerely hope that you will involve the new media and art
institutions in the
set up and creation of the new Fund, and that the above arguments will lead to
the desired adjustments. We will be more than happy to share our views with you,
as well as the knowledge that we have in the area of international new media
arts policy.

Yours sincerely,

V2_
Waag Society
STEIM
Mediamatic
WORM
Submarine Channel
Netherlands Media Art Institute


Hello Roger,

It could be construed as that indeed.

All institutions whether governmental or not deal with agency, the
USDAT Is a good example. But in nearly all cases there is a clear
distinction between those who organize and those who produce art. An
interesting example is artist Anton Vidokle's e-flux magazine, a
commercial entreprise that generates funding for art projects.
Although there too there is distinction.

Thestatofmind project can be thought of a relational space that
includes its orientation and underlying discourse, meaning the project
hasn't been planned in a previous stage and then put to action. All
the people that have had to relate to the project had have decisions
to make and have therefore contributed to the project's becoming.
People are therefore acting as process nodes in an ongoing thought
process with respect to the issues and questions that launched the
whole process.

More simply said: instead of putting objectives relating to values or
positions (answers or attitudes that are prior to the project and that
condition its development and heading), thestateofmind has been born
of questions and problematics, and its purpose of existence is
creating collaborative dialectics from those questions, and issues.

Instead of reaching consensus as in social networks, the project is
creating dissensus, and that leaves open dialectical possibilities.


G. H. Rabbath

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Re: [Yasmin_discussions] 1. art agency (roger malina)

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[Yasmin_discussions] New Media Art Organisations in Netherlands lose funding

Hi
The New Media Art Organisations funding in Netherlands have been since more then 20 years a model for working in art and media and with many issues central to contemporary art, and showing how necessary is the Istitution's presence in a full development of cultural reasearch.
This model has allowed a great amount of experiences that have contributed to shape contemporary art and media, as well as new music, new comunications, inter/relationships with other cultures, etc...
V2, Waag, Mediamatic, Steim, Nimk, Balie etc.. (and all the Universities' work related to them!) really defined concepts and structures of extreme modernity.
This important platform of thought and actions has produced the most interesting and stimulating experiences.
We must find a way to show the dutch government to defend their outstanding cultural work and defend those important achievements.
Prof Lorenzo Taiuti
University La Sapienza Roma Italy
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