here below my post.
Amos
At the opening of yout thread, the narcissism seems to be related to humankind but, in a following step, it suddenly becomes part of the essence of the individual. I think it could be useful to approach the topic of the "anthropos" in three ways, according to what has been stated by Morin ( La méthode . L'Humanité de l'humanité, l'identité humaine , 2001): anthropos as 1. human being, 2. individual, 3. part of the society. By this complex approach the risk to shift from a concept of the anthropos to another one (i.e., from humankind to individual), because all the concepts, and the derived reciprocal feedbacks, must be taken in consideration at the same time. Moreover, even if the language seems to be just a property of the anthropos (see Maturana and Varela, Autopoiesis and Cognition , 1991) differentiating it from other living beings, the biblical domination of the man on the nature is passed over, in order to get a new relation with the other that assumes at least three different meanings: other from me, other from my culture, other from my species, each of these definitions including (and not excluding) the other ones.
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Da: "roger malina" <rmalina@alum.mit.edu>
A: "YASMIN DISCUSSIONS" <Yasmin_discussions@estia.media.uoa.gr>
Inviato: Mercoledì, 21 aprile 2010 11:05:50
Oggetto: [Yasmin_discussions] Narcissism and Anthropocentrism
Francesco
Your example about Toxoplasma Gondii is about the importance of parasitic
protozoa and I think is one good place to re think about
anthropocentrism as most
of the life forms on this planet are not primates or in close systems
interaction
with primates. Yet we are obsessed by primates as part of the cultural
narcissism
you describe.
Ramon Guardans, in his essay " On Plant Physics: the silent power of waiting"
argues that we should look at plants and their functioning as a useful
way of re-thinking
http://www.imera.fr/images/stories/PDF/ramon_guardans.pdf
This paper is based on a remarkable book by Karl J. Niklas : Plant Allometry.
The Scaling of Form and Process (U Chicago Press 1994)
and introduces some of it to the reader. This paper argues that it
would be useful to pay
more theoretical, artistic, and scientific
attention to the way plants grow and reproduce, use resources and
dispose of waste over space,
time and scale. We shal
l argue that many aspects of our social behaviour are closer to plant
strategies over
the long range rather than shaped by
urgencies of ambitious predators , these exist but are just a part of
how change
in living lineages come about. Other forms
of interaction are relevant too.
Summarising and commenting on Niklas's work, we draw attention to some
distinctive
aspects of the physics and biology
of plants, regretting implicitly that not more of this work is in
progress and accessible
when considering long - term life processes
The consideration of these issues is also applied to comment on the praise
Charles Darwin deserves and how the poor man
has been abused.
Ramon, are you following this discussion ? maybe you would like to comment !!
Roger
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