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Today's Topics:

1. Science for the People (YASMIN DISCUSSIONS)
2. Presentation (YASMIN DISCUSSIONS)


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Date: Sat, 24 Feb 2018 19:32:36 -0600
Subject: [Yasmin_discussions] Science for the People
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Thanks to Roger and the YASMIN admin team for hosting this discussion, to our invited specialist commentators (welcome!), and to all members of the list for taking the time to read along and/or engage with this dialog!

As we are all amply aware, scientists, science-oriented-artists, and the public at large have extremely obvious, sound, and urgent reasons to defend and exalt science in general. At the same time, as interdisciplinary practitioners, we may be uniquely positioned to examine and critique underlying systems of power and the cooptation of scientific knowledge by commercial and militaristic interests.

Science for the People (SftP) <> has been addressing these issues for decades. All of this discussion's invited Specialist Commentators are part of the newly re-formed SftP?one of them belonged to the original group that formed in the late 1960s.

While it would be very interesting to hear about ways members of the YASMIN list have been engaging in ?radical science? (confronting social issues within the context of your practice), the primary question I propose we begin with is one that has been previously alluded to on this list:

Is a new scientific method ? or an addendum or supplement to the standard one ? that contains ethical tenets necessary? What would it look like? How would it be implemented?

I have pasted a few references below that have informed my own thinking on the subject. I look forward to your responses!

With best wishes and hopes that we can all find ways to transmute current socio-political absurdities into meaningful, constructive action!

Alyce Santoro <>
@alyceobvious <>

RELATED READING. I hope that others will feel compelled to add to this list?along with your responses, if supporting materials come to mind, please do include them!

***HIGHLY RECOMMENDED: The brand new Science for the People: Documents from America?s Movement of Radical Scientists <> edited by Sigrid Scmalzer, Daniel S. Chard, and Alyssa Botelho***
"Toward the Renewal of Science" <> by Richard Levins (Rethinking Marxism, Volume 3, Number 3-4, Fall/Winter 1990) ? thanks to John Vandermeer for this recommendation!
The Dialectical Biologist <> by Levins/Lewontin
Ecology: Key Concepts in Critical Theory <> edited by Carolyn Merchant
Goethe?s Way of Science: A Phenomenology of Nature <> edited by Henri Bortoft and Arthur Zajonc
The Wholeness of Nature:?Goethe's Way Toward a Science of Conscious Participation in Nature <> by Henri Bortoft


> Message: 2
> Date: Mon, 19 Feb 2018 17:09:39 -0600
> To: <>
> Subject: [Yasmin_discussions] yasmin discussion Science for the People
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> we have good news, thanks to the hard work of Dimitris Charitos the list is now
> up again on the cloud and we are pleased to announce the promised discussion
> on Science for the People: Radical Science for the 21st Century.
> The discussion will be moderated by Alyce Santoro and myself.
> the science for the people organisation just held a convention
> <>
> if you attended we encourage you to tell us about it
> Alyce and Roger
> Science for the People: Radical Science for the 21st Century.
> In the late 1960s through late 1980s, scientists unwilling to
> contribute to the development of technologies that pollute, oppress,
> and destroy, or to research tainted by military, political, and
> corporate interests, were organizing around the questions Why are we <>scientists? For whose benefit do we serve? What is the full measure of <>our moral and social responsibility <>?. Members of Science for the <>People (SftP) <> (sometimes referred to more generally as the radical
> science movement) were dedicated to crafting a science that is
> ethical, egalitarian, and cooperative, and were committed in their own
> work to research that above all serves the health of humans and the
> environment.
> Science for the People is currently being revitalized by scientists
> and scholars on college campuses across the US.Science for the <>People: Documents from America?s Movement of Radical Scientists <>, a
> brand new anthology of historical material, is fresh off the presses.
> The second annual SftP National Convention <> took place at the
> University of Michigan from February 2-4, 2017.
> A bit more background:
> Don't Just Defend Science, Mobilize It for the People <>: While science
> is under attack, it could be an opportunity to advance a much stronger
> vision of how it can serve the common good, writes Sigrid Schmalzer:
> Which Way for Science? <> A statement by the SftP editorial team on the
> occasion of the April 2017 March for Science
> __________
> Lisette E. Torres is a disabled mother-scholar-activist of color
> dedicated to critically examining the intersections of race, gender,
> disability, and science identity and how they impact knowledge
> production and STEM. She is a former aquatic ecologist, a member of
> Science for the People, and a co-founder for the National Coalition
> for Latinxs with Disabilities (CNLD).
> <>
> <>
> Abha Sur is a scientist turned historian of science. She is the author
> of Dispersed Radiance: Caste, Gender, and Modern Science in India (New
> Delhi: Navayana, 2011). She teaches in the Program in Women's & Gender
> Studies and in the Program in Science, Technology, and Society at MIT.
> Abha Sur is a longstanding member of the Alliance for a Secular and
> Democratic South Asia, a Cambridge based organization that raises
> awareness about issues of social justice through seminars, panel
> discussions and cultural events.
> John Vandermeer is a theoretical ecologist, agroecologist and tropical
> ecologist, who teaches at the University of Michigan and does research
> in Michigan, Mexico and Puerto Rico. He was a long term member of the
> original SftP, having been at the Chicago AAAS meetings where at least
> one of the beginnings of the organization is reported to have
> happened. He also is a founding member of the New World Agriculture
> and Ecology group, an offshoot of SftP.
> Ben Allen is a scientist, educator, and labor activist in east
> Tennessee. He is an organizer for the revitalized Science for the
> People and is member of the Science for the People Research
> Collective. In addition to organizing, he works as a contractor on
> computational biology projects related to energy and environment.
> Alyce Santoro is a conceptual/sound artist and writer with a
> background in biology and scientific illustration. She will be a
> candidate in RISDs new Nature-Culture-Sustainability MA program
> starting in fall 2018. <>
> Yasmin Moderators:
> Alyce Santoro and Roger Malina


Message: 2
Date: Sat, 24 Feb 2018 13:42:28 +0100
Subject: [Yasmin_discussions] Presentation
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Hello Yasminers,

I would like to present myself.

I'm a polypolymath in arts and science based in Paris.

In science I have an extensive education in medecine, chemistry, biology
(especially neurobiology and neurosciences), and especially in theoretical
physics and pure mathematics. Recently my interests are around foundations
of mathematics, with model theory, set theory, homotopy and type theory,
category theory, topos; I have strong interest in axiomatic approach and
axiomatization and Shelah's works.

In arts, I have a strong development in music, esp. piano, improvisation
writing and composition, dance, esp. contemporary dance, physical theater,
dance theater, somatic education, yoga esp. vinyasasa and tibetan, acting
esp., Meisner practices, transactional analysis, and osteopathy practice. I
also have a strong practice of photography, still and motion. In all those
art fields I have both theoretical and experiential regular practice.

My interests are around artificial intelligence, artificial understanding,
from sensitive point of view and theoretical point of view, and theory of
sensitivity in both mathematical and experiential contexts. I was finalist
Innovator under 35 MITTR with a project involving cameras which capture and
share subjective experience of the spectator. Today's approaches in
artificial intelligence in my opinion have intrinsic limitations, due to
the statistical or naive neuronal approach.

I have strong interests both in entrepreneurship and art creation, and I
guess in some extent academic works, but the context is not particularly
favorable, even considering a "pure mathematics" approach, since subjects
of research have today a top-down approach, which chokes innovation (in
Paris at least).

I'm those days having lots of entrepreneur moves, and I might prepare PhD
in mathematics provided I find the right conditions to do it.

Cheers to all


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