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Dear Yasminers,
I m happy to follow with our discussion introductory texts, this time with
some words from Gustavo Ariel Schwartz, Physics researcher and Writer,
based in San Sebastian, Spain.
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YASMIN discussion
Introductory text
Gustavo Ariel Schwartz
This is, of course, a personal view based on my own experience and it is
far from being a complete landscape of the Art/Sci practices. In the
following, I will include the writers when I talk about the ?artists?
because most of the interactions in the Mestizajes programme were in the
field of the literature (although Art/Sci practices also took place). What
I observe in general, is that the ?where?, the space where the Art/Sci
interchange takes place, is biased towards scientific scenarios
(laboratories, research institutes, Universities, etc.). It is not so
common to have this kind of interaction or hybridization in art museums,
main libraries or Humanities departments at the University. This also
defines the ?who?, in the sense that artists can easily apply for
residences or short stays at ?scientific scenarios? but scientists cannot
do the same in the other direction.
Concerning to the acquisition of their scientific and/or artistic
knowledge, my feeling (and my own experience) is that it is by far
self-teaching and therefore it is hardly free of errors and mistakes (in
both cases). In this sense, a much stronger interaction between artists and
scientists could substantially improve the knowledge that each one would
have about the other field. This interaction could be materialized not only
by offering ?courses? (science for artists or art for scientists) but also
(and mainly) by the face-to-face interaction between scientists and artists
in workshops, conferences, meeting and informal talks. There is still a
long way to go in this sense.
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Dear Yasminers,
I m happy to follow with our discussion introductory texts, this time with
some words from Gustavo Ariel Schwartz, Physics researcher and Writer,
based in San Sebastian, Spain.
------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
YASMIN discussion
Introductory text
Gustavo Ariel Schwartz
This is, of course, a personal view based on my own experience and it is
far from being a complete landscape of the Art/Sci practices. In the
following, I will include the writers when I talk about the ?artists?
because most of the interactions in the Mestizajes programme were in the
field of the literature (although Art/Sci practices also took place). What
I observe in general, is that the ?where?, the space where the Art/Sci
interchange takes place, is biased towards scientific scenarios
(laboratories, research institutes, Universities, etc.). It is not so
common to have this kind of interaction or hybridization in art museums,
main libraries or Humanities departments at the University. This also
defines the ?who?, in the sense that artists can easily apply for
residences or short stays at ?scientific scenarios? but scientists cannot
do the same in the other direction.
Concerning to the acquisition of their scientific and/or artistic
knowledge, my feeling (and my own experience) is that it is by far
self-teaching and therefore it is hardly free of errors and mistakes (in
both cases). In this sense, a much stronger interaction between artists and
scientists could substantially improve the knowledge that each one would
have about the other field. This interaction could be materialized not only
by offering ?courses? (science for artists or art for scientists) but also
(and mainly) by the face-to-face interaction between scientists and artists
in workshops, conferences, meeting and informal talks. There is still a
long way to go in this sense.
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Dear Yasminers,
We follow our discussion with Jadwiga Charzynska in Poland, who is
answering to the questions that we addressed in our blurb with the example
of the project "Art+Science Meeting".
Best wishes,
Guillermo.
*------------------------------------------------------------------------------------*
*Jadwiga Charzy?ska*
ART+SCIENCE MEETING IN LAZNIA CCA
The Art+Science Meeting is being realized since 2011 by the Centrum Sztuki
Wsp??czesnej ?A?NIA (LAZNIA Centre for Contemporary Art) in Gdansk. The
project is based mainly on exhibition programme, which present the
achievements of world?s most outstanding artists who create in the area of
science and technology.
Within A+S Meeting we are publishing a lot of publications that allows a
wider look on the contemporary civilization, where we can notice very
important collaboration between technology and art. Apart from that we
organise workshops, debates and concerts which are held as part of the
Art+Science Meeting project.
Artists and scientist are working together in matters of extending spectrum
of explorations ? their researches involve ethical and social problems.
They create their own language, that is used to communicate with
participants and consumers. This specific language is a way of presentation
their discoveries and accomplishments. We can ?hear? this voice in the form
of exhibitions, workshops, art?s visualizations, performances, conferences
and discussion panels etc.
>From a perspective of cultural institution this cooperation is very
effective. What is most important artists gains extended field of their
artistic expression; while scientists get the possibility to present their
researches through the language of art ? so they uprate their work with
artistic expression and gain the informal way to verify their experiments.
Artist have more freedom - licentia poetica ? to create narrations around
the subject, that they are interested in. On the contrary scientists should
have hard evidence to support their thesis.
Cultural differences are very important in this kind of our activities.
Back in the day Gdansk was a part of important trade routes. It is the city
which was able to be independent, while the city authorities had a lot of
power and respect during the golden age of the city. Gdansk is also a
symbol of political and democratic transitions in the post-war history of
Poland. Gdansk was and still is the city of artists and scientists, for
example: Daniel Gabriel Fahrenheit ? physicist, Jan Heweliusz ? astronomer,
mathematician, Arthur Schopenhauer ? philosopher and G?nter Grass ? writer.
In addition, a lot of artist, like Abraham van den Blocke, Izaak van den
Blocke, Jan Bernard Bonifacio, Daniel Chodowiecki are also related with
this city. Politician, that are associated with a Gdansk, are for example
Lech Walesa and Donald Tusk.
This is a whole bundle of experiences, that affect (in positive way) our
work and collaboration between artist and scientists. From our point of
view (organizer of exhibitions and other projects) is hard to tell how this
learning process from each other should materialize. I would rather ask
university specialists.
In the case of art and science project artists as well as scientists are
the actors. In the role of users are viewers and spectators. Actors that
are not present (I would rather say invisible) are teams of scientists that
are supporting the technical aspects of the project. Of course, in my
understanding of word ?actor?.
All the best,
Jadwiga Charzy?ska
Dyrektor / Director
Centrum Sztuki Wsp??czesnej ?A?NIA
LAZNIA for Contemporary Art
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Dear Yasminers,
We follow our discussion with Jadwiga Charzynska in Poland, who is
answering to the questions that we addressed in our blurb with the example
of the project "Art+Science Meeting".
Best wishes,
Guillermo.
*------------------------------------------------------------------------------------*
*Jadwiga Charzy?ska*
ART+SCIENCE MEETING IN LAZNIA CCA
The Art+Science Meeting is being realized since 2011 by the Centrum Sztuki
Wsp??czesnej ?A?NIA (LAZNIA Centre for Contemporary Art) in Gdansk. The
project is based mainly on exhibition programme, which present the
achievements of world?s most outstanding artists who create in the area of
science and technology.
Within A+S Meeting we are publishing a lot of publications that allows a
wider look on the contemporary civilization, where we can notice very
important collaboration between technology and art. Apart from that we
organise workshops, debates and concerts which are held as part of the
Art+Science Meeting project.
Artists and scientist are working together in matters of extending spectrum
of explorations ? their researches involve ethical and social problems.
They create their own language, that is used to communicate with
participants and consumers. This specific language is a way of presentation
their discoveries and accomplishments. We can ?hear? this voice in the form
of exhibitions, workshops, art?s visualizations, performances, conferences
and discussion panels etc.
>From a perspective of cultural institution this cooperation is very
effective. What is most important artists gains extended field of their
artistic expression; while scientists get the possibility to present their
researches through the language of art ? so they uprate their work with
artistic expression and gain the informal way to verify their experiments.
Artist have more freedom - licentia poetica ? to create narrations around
the subject, that they are interested in. On the contrary scientists should
have hard evidence to support their thesis.
Cultural differences are very important in this kind of our activities.
Back in the day Gdansk was a part of important trade routes. It is the city
which was able to be independent, while the city authorities had a lot of
power and respect during the golden age of the city. Gdansk is also a
symbol of political and democratic transitions in the post-war history of
Poland. Gdansk was and still is the city of artists and scientists, for
example: Daniel Gabriel Fahrenheit ? physicist, Jan Heweliusz ? astronomer,
mathematician, Arthur Schopenhauer ? philosopher and G?nter Grass ? writer.
In addition, a lot of artist, like Abraham van den Blocke, Izaak van den
Blocke, Jan Bernard Bonifacio, Daniel Chodowiecki are also related with
this city. Politician, that are associated with a Gdansk, are for example
Lech Walesa and Donald Tusk.
This is a whole bundle of experiences, that affect (in positive way) our
work and collaboration between artist and scientists. From our point of
view (organizer of exhibitions and other projects) is hard to tell how this
learning process from each other should materialize. I would rather ask
university specialists.
In the case of art and science project artists as well as scientists are
the actors. In the role of users are viewers and spectators. Actors that
are not present (I would rather say invisible) are teams of scientists that
are supporting the technical aspects of the project. Of course, in my
understanding of word ?actor?.
All the best,
Jadwiga Charzy?ska
Dyrektor / Director
Centrum Sztuki Wsp??czesnej ?A?NIA
LAZNIA for Contemporary Art
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ANAT has been running art/science residencies since 1997, and we?ve learnt
a bit over that time. One thing is the importance of the artist being in
residence literally, in situ, for a minimum of three or four full-time
months if possible. Accidental and random connections can take a project in
entirely new directions. The other thing is that, if you know what the
outcomes are going to be at the outset ? new work, an exhibition, a
publication, whatever ? our residencies are not for you. We focus on
speculative research, on creating a platform bringing artistic, scientific
and intersectional knowledge together around particular research questions.
Its crucial the collaborators are able to follow where it leads, however
unexpected that may be, for this is where the exciting stuff happens.
I expect most of you understand the benefits that flow to artists as a
result of working with scientific researchers. With some important
exceptions, access to sites of scientific research have been off limits to
artists until the past 15-20 years, so to have these spaces increasingly
opening up to artists is a good thing. But what about the science research
partners? What do they gain from these collaborations?
I?ll wrap these introductory remarks with comments garnered from the
Qualitative Survey developed for Jill Scott?s Artist in Labs program and
which ANAT?s been lucky to be using since 2007? so in the words of some of
our science partners:
?Because [the artist] looks at the process differently than a scientist or
engineer would, it opens up a lot of interesting possibilities for research
and encourages us to explore things that we might not have otherwise
considered.?
?I learnt a lot from [the artist?s] fearlessness. The residency has had an
effect on the lab in terms of starting different conversations and enabling
dialogue. This is refreshing and highlighted to the team that asking
different questions is beneficial.?
?Working with [the artist] was an opportunity to think wildly in an almost
free associative manner. Being open to how the production or
experimentation can take you in a direction not thought of initially. It
was important to allow that current of exploration.?
?In short [the artist?s] project allowed oxygen to circulate in the
scientific community, and posit their work in another framework.?
I look forward to an injection of oxygen from this discussion over the
coming month? thank you so much to Guillermo for organising it and for
Roger and YASMIN for supporting it.
Vicki
*Vicki Sowry *I Director
*E* vicki@anat.org.au I *W *anat.org.au |
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ANAT has been running art/science residencies since 1997, and we?ve learnt
a bit over that time. One thing is the importance of the artist being in
residence literally, in situ, for a minimum of three or four full-time
months if possible. Accidental and random connections can take a project in
entirely new directions. The other thing is that, if you know what the
outcomes are going to be at the outset ? new work, an exhibition, a
publication, whatever ? our residencies are not for you. We focus on
speculative research, on creating a platform bringing artistic, scientific
and intersectional knowledge together around particular research questions.
Its crucial the collaborators are able to follow where it leads, however
unexpected that may be, for this is where the exciting stuff happens.
I expect most of you understand the benefits that flow to artists as a
result of working with scientific researchers. With some important
exceptions, access to sites of scientific research have been off limits to
artists until the past 15-20 years, so to have these spaces increasingly
opening up to artists is a good thing. But what about the science research
partners? What do they gain from these collaborations?
I?ll wrap these introductory remarks with comments garnered from the
Qualitative Survey developed for Jill Scott?s Artist in Labs program and
which ANAT?s been lucky to be using since 2007? so in the words of some of
our science partners:
?Because [the artist] looks at the process differently than a scientist or
engineer would, it opens up a lot of interesting possibilities for research
and encourages us to explore things that we might not have otherwise
considered.?
?I learnt a lot from [the artist?s] fearlessness. The residency has had an
effect on the lab in terms of starting different conversations and enabling
dialogue. This is refreshing and highlighted to the team that asking
different questions is beneficial.?
?Working with [the artist] was an opportunity to think wildly in an almost
free associative manner. Being open to how the production or
experimentation can take you in a direction not thought of initially. It
was important to allow that current of exploration.?
?In short [the artist?s] project allowed oxygen to circulate in the
scientific community, and posit their work in another framework.?
I look forward to an injection of oxygen from this discussion over the
coming month? thank you so much to Guillermo for organising it and for
Roger and YASMIN for supporting it.
Vicki
*Vicki Sowry *I Director
*E* vicki@anat.org.au I *W *anat.org.au |
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Hello,
I would like to raise a point.
I often see art/science events where arts practitionners and theorists in
one hand are separated from scientists doing experiments and theory on the
other hand.
I am both polymath in sciences and polymath in arts; my experience is that
we don't enrich ourself through texts and exchanges as much as through
practice, experience, and in the end de-/re-programming ourselves.
When we have this external enrichment (through description, explanation,
while keeping an external reference ie., the other), we are missing the
boat; while having an experience, all the sensoriality, sensibility,
feeling, theories, trying, fearing, going through fear, having a
breakthrough, reaching a singularity (as in Deleuze, as in phase
transition) we are forever changed and we build an internal reference.
The programming is like a set of "I know", "I'm good at" and "I can't",
"I'm not good at", "that's how it is done" and so on; we humans have
believes, habits (in thinking, feeling, doing) and programming that will
give us as certain "algebraic closure", in which we stay, in which we are
prisonners (for the intuition, it can also be called comfort zone, even
though if we give more details, the latter is even more restricting).
I believe that for many scientists, the world of arts is like "I allow
myself to break traditions in my field and my own programming"; I saw tons
of dancers being stuck into a certain program of "we behave this way", "we
do this this way", "science is this", "mathematics are that", and hence
being often more rigid that many mathematicians.
More generally, my undertanding of the actual richness and benefit of arts
and sciences interaction is definitely not the collaboration for the sake
of it but the individual transformation and de-/re-programming, and
building actual inner references. Because we have full power and
decision-making power over the inner reference, and we can enrich it in any
direction (art 1, art 2, science 1, science 2, science 3...).
I would like to encourage artists in a field to become artists in a
different field as well as scientists (to think, to feel, to act as such),
and reciprocally for scientists: to become a scientist in a different field
as well as an artist. I saw the benefit for mathematicians to become
physicists, and reciprocally, I saw the benefits for classical musics
performers to become composers, dancers, actors, conceptual artists, etc. I
saw also a certain type of mathematician being enriched by another practice
of mathematics.
How many combinations of enrichment ? For N fields, N! enrichments.
It is possible that certain "art-science" practitionners may have a certain
kind of (externally) defined thinking and practice, involving "that how we
do this" and other kinds of mimicking.
Hence: ask yourself: what is your programming ? your algebra ? your habits
and believes ? How can you break it ? extend it ? In which Topos do you
live ?
Mathieu
----
Theoretical physics,
Pure mathematics,
Computer science foundations,
Computer vision and machine learning,
Neurobiology,
Medecine,
Chemistry {experimental, theoretical},
Dance {classical, contemporary, african},
Acting {Meisner, theatre},
Dance-theatre
Physical theatre,
Somatic practices,
Authentic movement,
Visual artist,
Photography, cinematography,
Performance art,
Yoga {vinysasa, yin, ashtanga, Tibet},
Poetry {written, sound, improvisation},
Piano,
Music theory, composing, writing, improvisation,
Software engineering {high performance computing, fullstack/polystack (inc.
design)},
Microelectronics engineering,
Finance engineering,
Business analyst,
Project/program management,
Startup founder,
Art theory
Le lun. 21 oct. 2019 ? 07:07, Guillermo Mu?oz <m.m.guillermo@gmail.com> a
?crit :
>
> The YASMIN moderators are pleased to announce our next discussion on the
> Yasmin Discussion list:
>
> https://ntlab.gr/mailman/listinfo/yasmin_discussions_ntlab.gr
>
>
>
> *?The Who/When/Where/Why of the today Art/Sci Practices?*
>
> *The actual Art/Sci collaborative landscape includes more and more actions
> between consolidated institutions and alternatives spaces. Art/Sci practice
> is impacting the well stablished academic research activity, principally
> driven by universities and technology centres and companies, where private
> and public funding from research programs and agencies is getting used to
> promote the collaboration between artist and scientist. There are new
> founding opportunities from consolidated research agendas or many important
> Art/Sci residencies all over the planet. Inside the science, research it is
> starting to advocate for the transdisciplinary relations, where some of the
> higher impact specialized research journals are dedicating particular
> spaces to start to study them, just following the main work started many
> decades ago by the reference journal Leonardo. The join action can be
> understood as a ?redesigning science? program. However, in the day by day
> practice much of the Art/Sci activity is happening just in side-places,
> leaded by different associations and cultural groups, many times as a
> result of personal activity, where processes like self-learning,
> peer-learning in workshops or DIY meetings are producing
> ?micro-negociations? between different cultural contexts and group roots.
> In both the institutional and side-place realities, one of the principal
> returns is materialized as new and shared educational resources, which
> helps to re-define our mutual conception of what is culture and who is
> participating on it. In our discussion we will try to get some answers
> about the following questions: *
>
> *- Which are the actual places and context where artists and scientist are
> engaged and shared their work in collaboration?*
>
> *- In this context of mutual collaboration, how the artists and scientist
> get their scientific and artistic knowledge? (self-teaching - peer-teaching
> :: workshops - conferences -DIY meetings)*
>
> *- How are affecting our cultural differences to these actions?
> (geographical: latin-african-anglo-asian :: Urban-Rural).*
>
> * - Which are the mechanisms and the scenarios where
> scientist and artists materialize the learning process from each other?*
>
> *- Who is becoming the user and the actor in these actions? And who are
> the actors that are not present? *
>
>
>
> The discussion will start on next *October 28th* and will be moderated by
> Guillermo Mu?oz, Spanish physic researcher working in the fields of
> Nanotechnology and Quantum Photonics, with a number of invited discussants:
>
>
> - *Jadwiga Charzynska*: I am the director of LAZNIA CCA in Gdansk
> since 2004 and in our program, one of the most important points is the Art
> + Science Meeting project, which we organize regularly from 2011. It's
> really unique program in Poland presented Art / Sci projects.
>
> *Links:*
>
> http://www.laznia.pl/instytucja/
>
> https://creativedisturbance.org/voice/jadwiga-charzynska/
>
>
>
> - *Joao Silveira*: Brazilian entrepreneur, choreographer and
> pharmacist. Was a Harvard Fellow (Le Laboratoire/ 2017-2019) and currently
> is a research fellow at the ArtSciLab ? UT Dallas, and CienciArte Lab -
> Fiocruz.
>
>
>
> - *Jing Chen*: Associate professor of Arts and associate director
> of Art and Cultural Innovation and Creativity Lab of Nanjing University.
>
>
>
> - *Gustavo Ariel Schwartz.*: Physicist and writer. Scientist of the
> Spanish National Research Council (CSIC) at the Materials Physics Center.
> Founder director of the Mestizajes Program, at the Donostia International
> Physics Center, whose purpose is to explore and cross the borders among
> Art, Science, Literature and Humanities.
>
> *Links:*
>
> Personal web page: https://cfm.ehu.es/schwartz/
>
> Mestizajes web page http://www.mestizajes.es
>
>
>
> - *Ra?l Abeledo*: Faculty of Economics (University of Val?ncia).
> Researcher on cultural planning, environmental sustainability and local
> development. Amateur artist since 20 years ago (painter and songwriter).
>
> *Links:*
>
> Trans-Making project: https://trans-making.eu/
>
>
>
> - *Vicki Sowry*: Director ANAT, Australia. Vicki has initiated and
> delivered professional and creative development programs for artists in
> partnership with industry, government and academia, for over 25 years. She
> joined ANAT as Art Science Program Manager in 2007, and was appointed
> Director in 2012.
>
> *Links:* http://www.anat.org.au/
>
>
>
> - *Salom? Cuesta*: Member of the FECYT-Art/Science/Technology
> group. Co-Author of the White Paper on the interrelationship between Art,
> Science and Technology in Spain 2006.
>
> *Links*:
>
> Basic artistic interest: light/time installations. http://bit.ly/33p0Ifp
>
> Last projects: visibility of women in Art/Science/Technology
> (Invisibility Memory: http://bit.ly/2yQUBDg & STEAM Women, under study:
> http://bit.ly/2yXa1FW )
>
> Commitment as a teacher in Art/Science debates: http://bit.ly/2BaiuXK
>
> Short CV: https://www.medialab-prado.es/personal/salome-cuesta
>
>
> All Yasminers are welcome to join us. We hope we would share interesting
> ideas with the aim to develop a fruitful discussion.
>
>
> This is a discussion designed by the *YASMIN moderator team*, and
> co-sponsored by *Leonardo/ISAST and OLATS*.
> _______________________________________________
> Yasmin_announcements mailing list
> Yasmin_announcements@ntlab.gr
> http://ntlab.gr/mailman/listinfo/yasmin_announcements_ntlab.gr
>
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As part of the YASMIN moderator team I?m pleased to start our next
discussion in the Yasmin Discussion list.
Here we include some relevant information about our discussion protocol and
the working rules. Please, we encourage to all discussants to read it in
detail and follow our suggested directions. These will help us to build a
tidy debate and to enhance our mutual dialogue. At the same time, we would
like to apologize for our last week accidental post approvals. Our
discussion starts today, but during our pre-discussion work we accidentally
approved a couple of posts.
*Title and scope of the discussion:*
*?The Who/When/Where/Why of the today Art/Sci Practices?*
Along the following weeks we will be discussing about the actual strategies
followed in the Art/Sci practices, from different cultures, locations and
education programs. Art/Sci action is redesigning our research, but there
are many different approaches used in our day by day art/sci activities. We
will be interested to discuss about the actors, dynamics, approaches,
exchanges, programs or policies that are driving us, or we are driving to
pursue this new networked landscape of multiple collaborations. (see below
for an extended blurb).
To do it, Roger Malina and myself, Guillermo Mu?oz, will be moderating the
discussion, with the great pleasure to enjoy the collaboration from a panel
of invited discussants from all of the world:
- *Jadwiga Charzynska*: I am the director of LAZNIA CCA in Gdansk
since 2004 and in our program, one of the most important points is the Art
+ Science Meeting project, which we organize regularly from 2011. It's
really unique program in Poland presented Art / Sci projects.
*Links:*
http://www.laznia.pl/instytucja/
https://creativedisturbance.org/voice/jadwiga-charzynska/
- *Joao Silveira*: Brazilian entrepreneur, choreographer and
pharmacist. Was a Harvard Fellow (Le Laboratoire/ 2017-2019) and currently
is a research fellow at the ArtSciLab ? UT Dallas, and CienciArte Lab -
Fiocruz.
- *Jing Chen*: Associate professor of Arts and associate director of
Art and Cultural Innovation and Creativity Lab of Nanjing University.
- *Gustavo Ariel Schwartz.*: Physicist and writer. Scientist of the
Spanish National Research Council (CSIC) at the Materials Physics Center.
Founder director of the Mestizajes Program, at the Donostia International
Physics Center, whose purpose is to explore and cross the borders among
Art, Science, Literature and Humanities.
*Links:*
Personal web page: https://cfm.ehu.es/schwartz/
Mestizajes web page http://www.mestizajes.es
- *Ra?l Abeledo*: Faculty of Economics (University of Val?ncia).
Researcher on cultural planning, environmental sustainability and local
development. Amateur artist since 20 years ago (painter and songwriter).
*Links:*
Trans-Making project: https://trans-making.eu/
- *Vicki Sowry*: Director ANAT, Australia. Vicki has initiated and
delivered professional and creative development programs for artists in
partnership with industry, government and academia, for over 25 years. She
joined ANAT as Art Science Program Manager in 2007, and was appointed
Director in 2012.
*Links:* http://www.anat.org.au/
- *Salome Cuesta*: Member of the FECYT-Art/Science/Technology group.
Co-Author of the White Paper on the interrelationship between Art, Science
and Technology in Spain 2006.
*Links*:
Basic artistic interest: light/time installations. http://bit.ly/33p0Ifp
Last projects: visibility of women in Art/Science/Technology (Invisibility
Memory: http://bit.ly/2yQUBDg & STEAM Women, under study:
http://bit.ly/2yXa1FW )
Commitment as a teacher in Art/Science debates: http://bit.ly/2BaiuXK
Short CV:
https://www.medialab-prado.es/personal/salome-cuesta
*Timing of the discussion*:
1) Our discussion starts today, Monday October 28th, and it is
scheduled for 6 weeks.
2) First week: During the first week, we will post an introductory post
per day from the invited discussants, where they will explain their
personal experiences in this art/sci collaborative framework. During this
week we will not publish any other post. This will help to slowly enter to
the discussion and wait for a complete overview from the invited
discussants perspective. Of course, we can send your comments to the
network, but this will be posted in the previous weeks.
3) Second-Fifth week: After the first week, we will open the free
discussion, where all members from the Yasmin network are welcome to join
us.
*4) *In our last week we will review and summarize our discussion.
*Working rules:*
- If you would like to participate, please you need to send an
e-mail to the Yasmin_Discussion list (use the following direction:
yasmin_discussions@ntlab.gr). Remember: you need to use an e-mail account
subscribed to the list.
- Our Discussion subject will be: "WWWWASP Discussion". Please, use
this in your post subject.
- We would like to ask you to not include in your reply the previous
contributions, as these difficult the readability of the e-mail. So, be
aware that you erase the content of the previous mails.
- For dedicated answers, It would be very convenient if you include
in at the beginning of your post to which one is responding.
- The moderator team will include a small weekly summary of the
debate, to refresh the ideas that have come along in the week.
Of course, all Yasminers are welcome to join us. We hope we would share
interesting ideas with the aim to develop a fruitful discussion.
This is a discussion designed by the *YASMIN moderator team*, and
co-sponsored by *Leonardo/ISAST and OLATS*.
The YASMIN moderator team,
*Blurb:*
The actual Art/Sci collaborative landscape includes more and more actions
between consolidated institutions and alternatives spaces. Art/Sci practice
is impacting the well stablished academic research activity, principally
driven by universities and technology centres and companies, where private
and public funding from research programs and agencies is getting used to
promote the collaboration between artist and scientist. There are new
founding opportunities from consolidated research agendas or many important
Art/Sci residencies all over the planet. Inside the science, research it is
starting to advocate for the transdisciplinary relations, where some of the
higher impact specialized research journals are dedicating particular
spaces to start to study them, just following the main work started many
decades ago by the reference journal Leonardo. The join action can be
understood as a ?redesigning science? program. However, in the day by day
practice much of the Art/Sci activity is happening just in side-places,
leaded by different associations and cultural groups, many times as a
result of personal activity, where processes like self-learning,
peer-learning in workshops or DIY meetings are producing
?micro-negociations? between different cultural contexts and group roots.
In both the institutional and side-place realities, one of the principal
returns is materialized as new and shared educational resources, which
helps to re-define our mutual conception of what is culture and who is
participating on it. In our discussion we will try to get some answers
about the following questions:
- Which are the actual places and context where artists and scientist are
engaged and shared their work in collaboration?
- In this context of mutual collaboration, how the artists and scientist
get their scientific and artistic knowledge? (self-teaching - peer-teaching
:: workshops - conferences -DIY meetings)
- How are affecting our cultural differences to these actions?
(geographical: latin-african-anglo-asian :: Urban-Rural).
- Which are the mechanisms and the scenarios where scientist and artists
materialize the learning process from each other?
- Who is becoming the user and the actor in these actions? And who are the
actors that are not present?
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Date: Sun, 27 Oct 2019 16:10:22 +0100
From: YASMIN DISCUSSIONS <yasmin_discussions@ntlab.gr>
To: Guillermo Mu?oz <m.m.guillermo@gmail.com>
Cc: yasmin_discussions@ntlab.gr
Subject: Re: [Yasmin_discussions] [Yasmin_announcements] New Yasmin
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Hello,
I would like to raise a point.
I often see art/science events where arts practitionners and theorists in
one hand are separated from scientists doing experiments and theory on the
other hand.
I am both polymath in sciences and polymath in arts; my experience is that
we don't enrich ourself through texts and exchanges as much as through
practice, experience, and in the end de-/re-programming ourselves.
When we have this external enrichment (through description, explanation,
while keeping an external reference ie., the other), we are missing the
boat; while having an experience, all the sensoriality, sensibility,
feeling, theories, trying, fearing, going through fear, having a
breakthrough, reaching a singularity (as in Deleuze, as in phase
transition) we are forever changed and we build an internal reference.
The programming is like a set of "I know", "I'm good at" and "I can't",
"I'm not good at", "that's how it is done" and so on; we humans have
believes, habits (in thinking, feeling, doing) and programming that will
give us as certain "algebraic closure", in which we stay, in which we are
prisonners (for the intuition, it can also be called comfort zone, even
though if we give more details, the latter is even more restricting).
I believe that for many scientists, the world of arts is like "I allow
myself to break traditions in my field and my own programming"; I saw tons
of dancers being stuck into a certain program of "we behave this way", "we
do this this way", "science is this", "mathematics are that", and hence
being often more rigid that many mathematicians.
More generally, my undertanding of the actual richness and benefit of arts
and sciences interaction is definitely not the collaboration for the sake
of it but the individual transformation and de-/re-programming, and
building actual inner references. Because we have full power and
decision-making power over the inner reference, and we can enrich it in any
direction (art 1, art 2, science 1, science 2, science 3...).
I would like to encourage artists in a field to become artists in a
different field as well as scientists (to think, to feel, to act as such),
and reciprocally for scientists: to become a scientist in a different field
as well as an artist. I saw the benefit for mathematicians to become
physicists, and reciprocally, I saw the benefits for classical musics
performers to become composers, dancers, actors, conceptual artists, etc. I
saw also a certain type of mathematician being enriched by another practice
of mathematics.
How many combinations of enrichment ? For N fields, N! enrichments.
It is possible that certain "art-science" practitionners may have a certain
kind of (externally) defined thinking and practice, involving "that how we
do this" and other kinds of mimicking.
Hence: ask yourself: what is your programming ? your algebra ? your habits
and believes ? How can you break it ? extend it ? In which Topos do you
live ?
Mathieu
----
Theoretical physics,
Pure mathematics,
Computer science foundations,
Computer vision and machine learning,
Neurobiology,
Medecine,
Chemistry {experimental, theoretical},
Dance {classical, contemporary, african},
Acting {Meisner, theatre},
Dance-theatre
Physical theatre,
Somatic practices,
Authentic movement,
Visual artist,
Photography, cinematography,
Performance art,
Yoga {vinysasa, yin, ashtanga, Tibet},
Poetry {written, sound, improvisation},
Piano,
Music theory, composing, writing, improvisation,
Software engineering {high performance computing, fullstack/polystack (inc.
design)},
Microelectronics engineering,
Finance engineering,
Business analyst,
Project/program management,
Startup founder,
Art theory
Le lun. 21 oct. 2019 ? 07:07, Guillermo Mu?oz <m.m.guillermo@gmail.com> a
?crit :
>
> The YASMIN moderators are pleased to announce our next discussion on the
> Yasmin Discussion list:
>
> https://ntlab.gr/mailman/listinfo/yasmin_discussions_ntlab.gr
>
>
>
> *?The Who/When/Where/Why of the today Art/Sci Practices?*
>
> *The actual Art/Sci collaborative landscape includes more and more actions
> between consolidated institutions and alternatives spaces. Art/Sci practice
> is impacting the well stablished academic research activity, principally
> driven by universities and technology centres and companies, where private
> and public funding from research programs and agencies is getting used to
> promote the collaboration between artist and scientist. There are new
> founding opportunities from consolidated research agendas or many important
> Art/Sci residencies all over the planet. Inside the science, research it is
> starting to advocate for the transdisciplinary relations, where some of the
> higher impact specialized research journals are dedicating particular
> spaces to start to study them, just following the main work started many
> decades ago by the reference journal Leonardo. The join action can be
> understood as a ?redesigning science? program. However, in the day by day
> practice much of the Art/Sci activity is happening just in side-places,
> leaded by different associations and cultural groups, many times as a
> result of personal activity, where processes like self-learning,
> peer-learning in workshops or DIY meetings are producing
> ?micro-negociations? between different cultural contexts and group roots.
> In both the institutional and side-place realities, one of the principal
> returns is materialized as new and shared educational resources, which
> helps to re-define our mutual conception of what is culture and who is
> participating on it. In our discussion we will try to get some answers
> about the following questions: *
>
> *- Which are the actual places and context where artists and scientist are
> engaged and shared their work in collaboration?*
>
> *- In this context of mutual collaboration, how the artists and scientist
> get their scientific and artistic knowledge? (self-teaching - peer-teaching
> :: workshops - conferences -DIY meetings)*
>
> *- How are affecting our cultural differences to these actions?
> (geographical: latin-african-anglo-asian :: Urban-Rural).*
>
> * - Which are the mechanisms and the scenarios where
> scientist and artists materialize the learning process from each other?*
>
> *- Who is becoming the user and the actor in these actions? And who are
> the actors that are not present? *
>
>
>
> The discussion will start on next *October 28th* and will be moderated by
> Guillermo Mu?oz, Spanish physic researcher working in the fields of
> Nanotechnology and Quantum Photonics, with a number of invited discussants:
>
>
> - *Jadwiga Charzynska*: I am the director of LAZNIA CCA in Gdansk
> since 2004 and in our program, one of the most important points is the Art
> + Science Meeting project, which we organize regularly from 2011. It's
> really unique program in Poland presented Art / Sci projects.
>
> *Links:*
>
> http://www.laznia.pl/instytucja/
>
> https://creativedisturbance.org/voice/jadwiga-charzynska/
>
>
>
> - *Joao Silveira*: Brazilian entrepreneur, choreographer and
> pharmacist. Was a Harvard Fellow (Le Laboratoire/ 2017-2019) and currently
> is a research fellow at the ArtSciLab ? UT Dallas, and CienciArte Lab -
> Fiocruz.
>
>
>
> - *Jing Chen*: Associate professor of Arts and associate director
> of Art and Cultural Innovation and Creativity Lab of Nanjing University.
>
>
>
> - *Gustavo Ariel Schwartz.*: Physicist and writer. Scientist of the
> Spanish National Research Council (CSIC) at the Materials Physics Center.
> Founder director of the Mestizajes Program, at the Donostia International
> Physics Center, whose purpose is to explore and cross the borders among
> Art, Science, Literature and Humanities.
>
> *Links:*
>
> Personal web page: https://cfm.ehu.es/schwartz/
>
> Mestizajes web page http://www.mestizajes.es
>
>
>
> - *Ra?l Abeledo*: Faculty of Economics (University of Val?ncia).
> Researcher on cultural planning, environmental sustainability and local
> development. Amateur artist since 20 years ago (painter and songwriter).
>
> *Links:*
>
> Trans-Making project: https://trans-making.eu/
>
>
>
> - *Vicki Sowry*: Director ANAT, Australia. Vicki has initiated and
> delivered professional and creative development programs for artists in
> partnership with industry, government and academia, for over 25 years. She
> joined ANAT as Art Science Program Manager in 2007, and was appointed
> Director in 2012.
>
> *Links:* http://www.anat.org.au/
>
>
>
> - *Salom? Cuesta*: Member of the FECYT-Art/Science/Technology
> group. Co-Author of the White Paper on the interrelationship between Art,
> Science and Technology in Spain 2006.
>
> *Links*:
>
> Basic artistic interest: light/time installations. http://bit.ly/33p0Ifp
>
> Last projects: visibility of women in Art/Science/Technology
> (Invisibility Memory: http://bit.ly/2yQUBDg & STEAM Women, under study:
> http://bit.ly/2yXa1FW )
>
> Commitment as a teacher in Art/Science debates: http://bit.ly/2BaiuXK
>
> Short CV: https://www.medialab-prado.es/personal/salome-cuesta
>
>
> All Yasminers are welcome to join us. We hope we would share interesting
> ideas with the aim to develop a fruitful discussion.
>
>
> This is a discussion designed by the *YASMIN moderator team*, and
> co-sponsored by *Leonardo/ISAST and OLATS*.
> _______________________________________________
> Yasmin_announcements mailing list
> Yasmin_announcements@ntlab.gr
> http://ntlab.gr/mailman/listinfo/yasmin_announcements_ntlab.gr
>
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Date: Mon, 28 Oct 2019 13:05:45 +1100
From: YASMIN DISCUSSIONS <yasmin_discussions@ntlab.gr>
To: yasmin_discussions@ntlab.gr
Subject: [Yasmin_discussions] WWWWASP Discussion - Opening
Message-ID:
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Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8"
As part of the YASMIN moderator team I?m pleased to start our next
discussion in the Yasmin Discussion list.
Here we include some relevant information about our discussion protocol and
the working rules. Please, we encourage to all discussants to read it in
detail and follow our suggested directions. These will help us to build a
tidy debate and to enhance our mutual dialogue. At the same time, we would
like to apologize for our last week accidental post approvals. Our
discussion starts today, but during our pre-discussion work we accidentally
approved a couple of posts.
*Title and scope of the discussion:*
*?The Who/When/Where/Why of the today Art/Sci Practices?*
Along the following weeks we will be discussing about the actual strategies
followed in the Art/Sci practices, from different cultures, locations and
education programs. Art/Sci action is redesigning our research, but there
are many different approaches used in our day by day art/sci activities. We
will be interested to discuss about the actors, dynamics, approaches,
exchanges, programs or policies that are driving us, or we are driving to
pursue this new networked landscape of multiple collaborations. (see below
for an extended blurb).
To do it, Roger Malina and myself, Guillermo Mu?oz, will be moderating the
discussion, with the great pleasure to enjoy the collaboration from a panel
of invited discussants from all of the world:
- *Jadwiga Charzynska*: I am the director of LAZNIA CCA in Gdansk
since 2004 and in our program, one of the most important points is the Art
+ Science Meeting project, which we organize regularly from 2011. It's
really unique program in Poland presented Art / Sci projects.
*Links:*
http://www.laznia.pl/instytucja/
https://creativedisturbance.org/voice/jadwiga-charzynska/
- *Joao Silveira*: Brazilian entrepreneur, choreographer and
pharmacist. Was a Harvard Fellow (Le Laboratoire/ 2017-2019) and currently
is a research fellow at the ArtSciLab ? UT Dallas, and CienciArte Lab -
Fiocruz.
- *Jing Chen*: Associate professor of Arts and associate director of
Art and Cultural Innovation and Creativity Lab of Nanjing University.
- *Gustavo Ariel Schwartz.*: Physicist and writer. Scientist of the
Spanish National Research Council (CSIC) at the Materials Physics Center.
Founder director of the Mestizajes Program, at the Donostia International
Physics Center, whose purpose is to explore and cross the borders among
Art, Science, Literature and Humanities.
*Links:*
Personal web page: https://cfm.ehu.es/schwartz/
Mestizajes web page http://www.mestizajes.es
- *Ra?l Abeledo*: Faculty of Economics (University of Val?ncia).
Researcher on cultural planning, environmental sustainability and local
development. Amateur artist since 20 years ago (painter and songwriter).
*Links:*
Trans-Making project: https://trans-making.eu/
- *Vicki Sowry*: Director ANAT, Australia. Vicki has initiated and
delivered professional and creative development programs for artists in
partnership with industry, government and academia, for over 25 years. She
joined ANAT as Art Science Program Manager in 2007, and was appointed
Director in 2012.
*Links:* http://www.anat.org.au/
- *Salome Cuesta*: Member of the FECYT-Art/Science/Technology group.
Co-Author of the White Paper on the interrelationship between Art, Science
and Technology in Spain 2006.
*Links*:
Basic artistic interest: light/time installations. http://bit.ly/33p0Ifp
Last projects: visibility of women in Art/Science/Technology (Invisibility
Memory: http://bit.ly/2yQUBDg & STEAM Women, under study:
http://bit.ly/2yXa1FW )
Commitment as a teacher in Art/Science debates: http://bit.ly/2BaiuXK
Short CV:
https://www.medialab-prado.es/personal/salome-cuesta
*Timing of the discussion*:
1) Our discussion starts today, Monday October 28th, and it is
scheduled for 6 weeks.
2) First week: During the first week, we will post an introductory post
per day from the invited discussants, where they will explain their
personal experiences in this art/sci collaborative framework. During this
week we will not publish any other post. This will help to slowly enter to
the discussion and wait for a complete overview from the invited
discussants perspective. Of course, we can send your comments to the
network, but this will be posted in the previous weeks.
3) Second-Fifth week: After the first week, we will open the free
discussion, where all members from the Yasmin network are welcome to join
us.
*4) *In our last week we will review and summarize our discussion.
*Working rules:*
- If you would like to participate, please you need to send an
e-mail to the Yasmin_Discussion list (use the following direction:
yasmin_discussions@ntlab.gr). Remember: you need to use an e-mail account
subscribed to the list.
- Our Discussion subject will be: "WWWWASP Discussion". Please, use
this in your post subject.
- We would like to ask you to not include in your reply the previous
contributions, as these difficult the readability of the e-mail. So, be
aware that you erase the content of the previous mails.
- For dedicated answers, It would be very convenient if you include
in at the beginning of your post to which one is responding.
- The moderator team will include a small weekly summary of the
debate, to refresh the ideas that have come along in the week.
Of course, all Yasminers are welcome to join us. We hope we would share
interesting ideas with the aim to develop a fruitful discussion.
This is a discussion designed by the *YASMIN moderator team*, and
co-sponsored by *Leonardo/ISAST and OLATS*.
The YASMIN moderator team,
*Blurb:*
The actual Art/Sci collaborative landscape includes more and more actions
between consolidated institutions and alternatives spaces. Art/Sci practice
is impacting the well stablished academic research activity, principally
driven by universities and technology centres and companies, where private
and public funding from research programs and agencies is getting used to
promote the collaboration between artist and scientist. There are new
founding opportunities from consolidated research agendas or many important
Art/Sci residencies all over the planet. Inside the science, research it is
starting to advocate for the transdisciplinary relations, where some of the
higher impact specialized research journals are dedicating particular
spaces to start to study them, just following the main work started many
decades ago by the reference journal Leonardo. The join action can be
understood as a ?redesigning science? program. However, in the day by day
practice much of the Art/Sci activity is happening just in side-places,
leaded by different associations and cultural groups, many times as a
result of personal activity, where processes like self-learning,
peer-learning in workshops or DIY meetings are producing
?micro-negociations? between different cultural contexts and group roots.
In both the institutional and side-place realities, one of the principal
returns is materialized as new and shared educational resources, which
helps to re-define our mutual conception of what is culture and who is
participating on it. In our discussion we will try to get some answers
about the following questions:
- Which are the actual places and context where artists and scientist are
engaged and shared their work in collaboration?
- In this context of mutual collaboration, how the artists and scientist
get their scientific and artistic knowledge? (self-teaching - peer-teaching
:: workshops - conferences -DIY meetings)
- How are affecting our cultural differences to these actions?
(geographical: latin-african-anglo-asian :: Urban-Rural).
- Which are the mechanisms and the scenarios where scientist and artists
materialize the learning process from each other?
- Who is becoming the user and the actor in these actions? And who are the
actors that are not present?
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This is, of course, a personal view based on my own experience and it is far from being a complete landscape of the Art/Sci practices. In the following, I will include the writers when I talk about the ?artists? because most of the interactions in the Mestizajes programme were in the field of the literature (although Art/Sci practices also took place). What I observe in general, is that the ?where?, the space where the Art/Sci interchange takes place, is biased towards scientific scenarios (laboratories, research institutes, Universities, etc.). It is not so common to have this kind of interaction or hybridization in art museums, main libraries or Humanities departments at the University. This also defines the ?who?, in the sense that artists can easily apply for residences or short stays at ?scientific scenarios? but scientists cannot do the same in the other direction.
Concerning to the acquisition of their scientific and/or artistic knowledge, my feeling (and my own experience) is that it is by far self-teaching and therefore it is hardly free of errors and mistakes (in both cases). In this sense, a much stronger interaction between artists and scientists could substantially improve the knowledge that each one would have about the other field. This interaction could be materialized not only by offering ?courses? (science for artists or art for scientists) but also (and mainly) by the face-to-face interaction between scientists and artists in workshops, conferences, meeting and informal talks. There is still a long way to go in this sense.
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Dr. Gustavo A. Schwartz
Centro de F?sica de Materiales
Centro Mixto CSIC-UPV/EHU
Paseo Manuel de Lardizabal 5
20018 - San Sebasti?n
Spain
Phone (+34) 943 018807
Fax (+34) 943 015800
email gustavo.schwartz@csic.es
http://creativium.mestizajes.es
http://cfm.ehu.es/schwartz/
http://gustavoarielschwartz.org
@G_A_Schwartz
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Dear Yasminers,
This is an announcement to communicate that one of our invited discussants
posts has been accepted and sent to the network accidentally by mylsef.
The discussion starts on next Monday 28th, which will be opened by a
general introduction and an explanation of the general contribution process.
My apologies,
Guillermo Mu?oz.
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YASMIN discussion - Introductory text
This is, of course, a personal view based on my own experience and it is far from being a complete landscape of the Art/Sci practices. In the following, I will include the writers when I talk about the ?artists? because most of the interactions in the Mestizajes programme were in the field of the literature (although Art/Sci practices also took place). What I observe in general, is that the ?where?, the space where the Art/Sci interchange takes place, is biased towards scientific scenarios (laboratories, research institutes, Universities, etc.). It is not so common to have this kind of interaction or hybridization in art museums, main libraries or Humanities departments at the University. This also defines the ?who?, in the sense that artists can easily apply for residences or short stays at ?scientific scenarios? but scientists cannot do the same in the other direction.
Concerning to the acquisition of their scientific and/or artistic knowledge, my feeling (and my own experience) is that it is by far self-teaching and therefore it is hardly free of errors and mistakes (in both cases). In this sense, a much stronger interaction between artists and scientists could substantially improve the knowledge that each one would have about the other field. This interaction could be materialized not only by offering ?courses? (science for artists or art for scientists) but also (and mainly) by the face-to-face interaction between scientists and artists in workshops, conferences, meeting and informal talks. There is still a long way to go in this sense.
----------------------------------------
Dr. Gustavo A. Schwartz
Centro de F?sica de Materiales
Centro Mixto CSIC-UPV/EHU
Paseo Manuel de Lardizabal 5
20018 - San Sebasti?n
Spain
Phone (+34) 943 018807
Fax (+34) 943 015800
email gustavo.schwartz@csic.es
http://creativium.mestizajes.es
http://cfm.ehu.es/schwartz/
http://gustavoarielschwartz.org
@G_A_Schwartz
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Dear Yasminers,
This is an announcement to communicate that one of our invited discussants
posts has been accepted and sent to the network accidentally by mylsef.
The discussion starts on next Monday 28th, which will be opened by a
general introduction and an explanation of the general contribution process.
My apologies,
Guillermo Mu?oz.
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