Brian
your email triggered a nerve-
when we surveyed the STEAM field in
US high schools for the SEAD white papers we found dozens
of STEAM programs- including STEAM with the A for Agriculture-
so yes all for Activism !!
my colleague tom linehan has been asking provocatively whether
the very concept of STEM is a concept that is now no longer useful
ie the very ontology of STEM forces you into a way of thinking
that blocks the most interesting ideas and projects
Johnathan Zillberg in his SEAD white paper meta analysis
started a frontal attack on the very concept of the two cultures
as one that is no longer useful and critiques how in spite of
ourselves we draw on the two culture mythology even though
C P snow himself disagreed with the way his ideas had been
distorted
how would the art science community begin to think if we
banished the two cultures and CP Snow (yeah aristotle is fun
to read too) and the very concept of dividing knowledge and
education into STEM fields and non STEM Fields= so maybe
this STEM to STEAM discussion is fundamentally misguided
i remember 20 years ago roy ascott when we were working
on the Leonardo Special Issue on Art and Interactive Telecommunications
(with the late and regretted Carl Loeffler) agitating to find a way
to replace the work Art because it carried too much unuseful baggage
so no for STEAM STEAAM SHTEAM yes for ?
roger
---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: Brian Degger <brian.degger@gmail.com>
Date: Thu, Aug 22, 2013 at 7:24 AM
Subject: Re: [Yasmin: Fwd: What about that ?
To: YASMIN ANNOUNCEMENTS <yasmin_announcements@estia.media.uoa.gr>
I thought we were all about STEAM now ;)
Can't wait until Science, techology,engineering, arts, maths becomes STEAAM
Science, technology,engineering, arts, activism, math.
On Tue, Aug 20, 2013 at 4:28 PM, rbuiani <rbuiani@gmail.com> wrote:
> yup, thanks Annick for bringing this up....except that this STEM obsession
> has brought some admins to believe that we no longer need the arts and
> humanities.
>
> http://edmonton.ctvnews.ca/university-of-alberta-moves-to-cut-20-arts-programs-1.1416250
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> rb
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> On Aug 19, 2013, at 9:01 PM, roger malina wrote:
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> > From: Annick Bureaud <abureaud@gmail.com>
> > Date: Mon, Aug 19, 2013 at 3:53 PM
> > Subject: What about that ?
> > To: malina <rmalina@alum.mit.edu>
> >
> >
> >
> http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-205_162-57598551/living-breathing-glowing-rabbits-successfully-born/
> >
> > I don't exactly know how it fits into your art-science discussion but
> > after the "first" steack grown by a scientist, may be it would be nice
> > to have an "art and humanities" curiculum for scientists ;-)))
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> > Can't send it to Yasmin, as I can't use my registered email address
> > where I currently am.
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