http://www.cim.mcgill.ca/sre/projects/aes/
At the end of the day, the artistic results are not so interesting.
All told, it is more interesting to work with networks 'tel quel'.
Andrew
On 2011-11-24, at 3:24 PM, jack Ox wrote:
> Hi Roger,
>
> I knew about Marcel-- and have just looked at their site- thanks-- However, it seems that MARCEL is AccessGrid- a multi-window software platform-- not an optical network that allows potentially jitterless communication. Jitter, for all who might ask, is an irregular delay-- Musicians regularly deal with a delay; that is why there are conductors. And here is an interesting bit of trivia: The delay between the right side of a large orchestral stage and the left side is the same as between Amsterdam and Tokyo over high-speed optical networks on the highest wave-rate level (the speed of light). (info from Cees Delaat at the U of Amsterdam)
>
> We need to work to get this kind of high-speed optical networking to be available and not so dang hard! For more information you can go to http://www.glif.is/ and http://www.internet2.edu/
>
> While at SC11 at the UNM booth, we had an interesting visit from representatives of Internet2. There has been an ongoing political battle between National LambdaRail and Internet2. What I heard at SC11 is that a billionaire pharmaceutic investor has either 'bought' or 'invested in NLR-- This was supposed to be a research network that is owned and managed by industry and research institutions. The U. of Texas is certainly a big player here- as is the U. of California. The Internet2 people told me they are the arts networking people. I believe that both optical networking entities are now at the same technical level.
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> As artists, artist-scientists, and researchers we need to harness and make available these resources.
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> Jack
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> On Nov 23, 2011, at 2:46 PM, roger malina wrote:
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>> Jack
>>
>> yes both networked infrastructures and networked organisations are
>> relevant here=
>> since they often overlap
>>
>> do you know about the Marcel network ?
>>
>> http://www.mmmarcel.org/
>>
>> they do a lot of infrastructure networking
>>
>> one of the topics at the us national science foundation workwshop was that there
>> is a proliferation of infrastructure network projects - but that are
>> not cross linked
>> and duplicate effort
>>
>> roger
>>
>> Hello Roger and all,
>>
>> Is there development of high-speed optical networking so that people
>> are able to meet with their data sets across oceans? Or are we
>> speaking here of other kinds of networking. I have read through
>> Roger's ongoing reports on the series of NSF Art Science workshops and
>> have not seen any talk about this subject. Are the storage archives
>> for large data sets in a cloud that is available to multiple entities?
>>
>> I am convinced that our networking needs to include actual optical
>> connections to one another- but it is extremely difficult to get that
>> up and running. The problems for me have been funding and getting
>> people on board who have never really seen or experienced what is
>> possible. Our CIO is now supporting small steps so that other faculty
>> will be able to see with their own ideas. For Instance, UNM just did a
>> series of Ursonate performances over the National LambdaRail between
>> Supercomputing11 in Seattle and the Center for Advanced Research
>> Computing. We were rehearsing and working out potential problems
>> before a Spring Fluxus Concert between Swinburne U. of Technology,
>> Melbourne, and UNM. These are baby steps designed to show people
>> potential.
>>
>> It is great to network- but we need to be able to do this without so
>> much physical travel. How do we make high-speed optical networking
>> available for a larger group of people in different communities?
>>
>> Can anyone comment on this- with your own experiences?
>>
>>
>> Jack Ox
>> Roger Malina is Director of the Observatoire Astronomique de
>> Marseille Provence and Executive Editor of the Leonardo Publications
>> at MIT Press
>> and member of the steering committee of IMERA the Mediterranean
>> Institute for Advanced Studies.Postal Address: OAMP, 38 Rue Joliot
>> Curie, Marseille 13388, France
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