I am really unsure about the tenability of the distinction between
science and art
The fact is that at their best both are creative producers of knowledge
We could call it the scientific arts or the art of science
but i suppose the language itself is flawed and misleading
Of course in "the one self-evident world" what we call science has a
strong grasp on another tentative and precarious term "the real",
however, in the multiplicitous world of difference, that which makes
life interesting - to quote a lecture from 1922 by Tristan Tzara - the
distinctively named Art seems to hold more sway -
The question however is more precarious and relevant when one becomes
more concentrated on the role of industry and finance -
Here in Germany on the weekend, on the cover of Die Zeit, or The Times,
There was an image of two rabbits - One mounting the other -
The one doing the mounting was labelled Industrie and the other,
taking it - as it were - was labelled Wissenschaft - loosely
translated Science, but more like knowledge production. ( All Fields
are so precise and concise here that they are labelled, for example
Theatre Wissenschaft, etc in the Universities)
So the better question might be about how hegemonic and conservative
industry and finance hold back the creative in both the sciences and
the arts, to the point of planned obsolescence, or outright stagnation
- though that is not formed into a question - i hope it makes some
sense to some of us.
Thanks for your time.
On Tue, Aug 6, 2013 at 7:38 PM, roger malina <firstname.lastname@example.org> wrote:
> forwarded from the linked in discussion
> DOES ART SCIENCE COLLABORATION CONTRIBUTE IN ANY WAY TO SUCCESSFUL...
> I am a medical and biological illustrator, my job is to make the
> complexities of science and medicine understandable and approachable
> on a visual level. I have found that many scientist have very good
> visualization skills and our collaboration results in teaching devices
> which can teach other scientists and the lay person. In a country
> where the general population is often scientifically ignorant I find
> that this collaboration to be almost a civic duty. It is also fun and
> provides a continuous learning experience for me. I get to be an
> artist and a bit of a science dilettante in that I don't have to go
> through the statistical analysis of the research.
> By William Hamilton
> Richard Wong • I am an artist about to launch a project on "endangered
> species". I am and will be working with specialists in collaboration
> to raise awareness through community/public outreach, engagement and
> dialogue...all through the medium of art.
> Through my experience from an artist's eyes, this collaboration works
> very well. Art can be an effective medium to communicate important
> societal messages, especially if the purpose is to educate and raise
> awareness. Scientific research/work adds to the body of knowledge, and
> we artists working closely can access and use this body of knowledge
> to communicate generally or specifically.
> Would like to hear directly from those wanting to work closely with me
> on endangered species art.
> claudia volders • Dear Roger
> First of all:
> As an artist I have the opportunity to work together in projects with
> scientists, which results in a grown for both of us. It is a way of
> As an artist I don't pretent that I have the knowlegde of a scientist,
> but a scientist is much more than knowlegde! It is passioned person,
> hard working talent! And this side of the scientist has been reduced
> to a very low point now. There is now money, no time enough to balance
> out between the knowlegde and passion.
> What I do as an artist is to increase passion and out-of-the-box
> thinking. And yes, this seems not important, but it is a way to
> successful scientific practice.
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