Fascinating to read all of these responses! I have to admit I am a very big fan of disciplinary differences and also of pushing against them to test the boundaries (the hyphen for me is the space-in-between).
I find a few contradictions in some of the points made - will probably unravel these at some stage in future...I'd love to know if there is another term we might use that encompasses what we mean without being mystical or using innovation speak which often sounds woolly also..
Roger - just in case I didn't make myself clear in first email: I didn't think the question you set wasn't worth answering just that there have been many responses already in other contexts most of them Leonardo related and I had thought we already had enough examples of where art-science collaborations bring value. But perhaps not! Or perhaps the problem still remains the one I coordinated the White Paper about for SEAD - the lack of any long-term memory...which I know we will be debating a little later on this list. By the way, may be helpful to know the Wellcome Trust in London is doing interviews with several scientists it has had sustained contact with through its Sciart programme since the beginning - to discuss the very question you posed. I don't know if they will ever be published however.
All best to all
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From: David Haley <D.Haley@mmu.ac.uk>
Date: Fri, 23 Aug 2013 18:17:26
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Subject: Re: [Yasmin_discussions] how does art science collaboration practice contribute to scientific research
I agree with all your observations. Indeed the third way (culture, included middle) is now a common theme associated with Transdisciplinarity. Of course, many misinterpretations and much confusion surround this near-mistical quality, but it does provide some interesting debate in the process.
All the best
PS. I hope you are well.
Dr David Haley. Sent from my iPhone
On 23 Aug 2013, at 13:39, "email@example.com" <firstname.lastname@example.org> wrote:
> Hi Roger, Brian and Yasmin colleagues
> I've been following this trail (feeling a little that perhaps we're going over familiar ground). But re: is the art-science category one of the difficulties? At the recent launch of 'Parasite' in Cambridge the speaker from the Sanger Genomics Research Institute said that for her it represented a perfect example of 'the Third Culture' (..caps mine). I was quite taken by this bid to go beyond the binary and would be keen to see this discussed further...what might be the possible limitations of such a descriptor? It opens things up I feel rather than closing down.
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