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1. proposed yasmin discussions; should we , could we give plants
the right to vote (YASMIN DISCUSSIONS)
2. Re: proposed yasmin discussions; should we , could we give
plants the right to vote (YASMIN DISCUSSIONS)
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Date: Mon, 24 May 2021 12:51:34 -0500
From: YASMIN DISCUSSIONS <yasmin_discussions@ntlab.gr>
To: yasmin_discussions@ntlab.gr, Jonathon Keats
<jonathonkeats@gmail.com>, Czegledy <czegledy@interlog.com>
Subject: [Yasmin_discussions] proposed yasmin discussions; should we ,
could we give plants the right to vote
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yasminers
nina czegledy and fomenting a yasmin discussion with jonathon keats
Jonathon Keats is a conceptual artist and experimental philosopher[1]
known for creating large-scale thought experiments. Keats was born in
New York City and studied philosophy at Amherst College.[2] He now
lives in San Francisco and Italy.[3]
\
his latest provocation is part of his THE FUTURE DEMOCRACIES
LABORATORY: AUTOMATED GOVERNMENT PROTOTYPING SYSTEM
https://projects.cadre.sjsu.edu/democracyproject/index.html
The Future Democracies Laboratory is a research space dedicated to the
investigation of methodologies and technologies for collective
decision-making. Directed by experimental philosopher Jonathon Keats,
in collaboration with San Jos? State University students and CADRE
faculty Rhonda Holberton and Steve Durie, the transdisciplinary
laboratory hosts an open-source software platform for rapidly modeling
and testing democratic systems.
We are working him as part of initiatives to mitigate climate change,
the absurd idea of giving plants the right
to vote- the first step is a citizen science project where YOU can
poll the plants around you and 'represent' them
in this yasmin discussion
I am currently 'polling" plants in dallas and so far have discovered that:
a) i notice more unhappy people than unhappy plants- why cant dallas
provide all humans a minimum annual income-
as they do to plants who are watered and clipped and planted by the
city for free.
b) i dont know how to know whether a plant is 'happy' and my son
xavier said i was projecting
on plants things that are desirable to humans ( eg happiness) instead
of asking plants what THEY desire
If anyone would like to help us organise this discussion contact nina and I
via rmalina@ alum.mit.edu and czegledyn@gmail.com
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Message: 2
Date: Mon, 24 May 2021 13:07:01 -0500
From: YASMIN DISCUSSIONS <yasmin_discussions@ntlab.gr>
To: yasmin_discussions@ntlab.gr, Jonathon Keats
<jonathonkeats@gmail.com>, Czegledy <czegledy@interlog.com>, roger
malina <rmalina@alum.mit.edu>
Cc: Abdessamad EL MONTASSIR <elmontassir.abdessamad@gmail.com>, Elen
Nas <313nnas@gmail.com>, Guillermo Mu?oz <m.m.guillermo@gmail.com>,
Dimitris Charitos <vedesign@otenet.gr>, Jo?o Silveira
<joaoarteciencia@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [Yasmin_discussions] proposed yasmin discussions; should
we , could we give plants the right to vote
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elen abdessamad
thanks for agreeing to participate on the yasmin discussion
let by jonathon keats, details below
subscribe to the discussion list using the info at the end
perhaps you could send the list a paragraph about yourself
and the foci of your research
luca guillermo- i wonder if we could make this discussion 'nomadic "?
roger malina
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roger
Roger in Dallas, please phone/txt/ +15108532007 if urgent
On Mon, May 24, 2021 at 12:51 PM roger malina <rmalina@alum.mit.edu> wrote:
>
> yasminers
>
> nina czegledy and fomenting a yasmin discussion with jonathon keats
> Jonathon Keats is a conceptual artist and experimental philosopher[1]
> known for creating large-scale thought experiments. Keats was born in
> New York City and studied philosophy at Amherst College.[2] He now
> lives in San Francisco and Italy.[3]
> \
> his latest provocation is part of his THE FUTURE DEMOCRACIES
> LABORATORY: AUTOMATED GOVERNMENT PROTOTYPING SYSTEM
> https://projects.cadre.sjsu.edu/democracyproject/index.html
> The Future Democracies Laboratory is a research space dedicated to the
> investigation of methodologies and technologies for collective
> decision-making. Directed by experimental philosopher Jonathon Keats,
> in collaboration with San Jos? State University students and CADRE
> faculty Rhonda Holberton and Steve Durie, the transdisciplinary
> laboratory hosts an open-source software platform for rapidly modeling
> and testing democratic systems.
>
> We are working him as part of initiatives to mitigate climate change,
> the absurd idea of giving plants the right
> to vote- the first step is a citizen science project where YOU can
> poll the plants around you and 'represent' them
> in this yasmin discussion
>
> I am currently 'polling" plants in dallas and so far have discovered that:
> a) i notice more unhappy people than unhappy plants- why cant dallas
> provide all humans a minimum annual income-
> as they do to plants who are watered and clipped and planted by the
> city for free.
> b) i dont know how to know whether a plant is 'happy' and my son
> xavier said i was projecting
> on plants things that are desirable to humans ( eg happiness) instead
> of asking plants what THEY desire
>
> If anyone would like to help us organise this discussion contact nina and I
> via rmalina@ alum.mit.edu and czegledyn@gmail.com
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