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2. PLANT COMMUNICATION - Antonio Irre - Re: Yasmin_discussions
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Message: 1
Date: Fri, 28 May 2021 12:29:36 -0300
From: YASMIN DISCUSSIONS <yasmin_discussions@ntlab.gr>
To: yasmin_discussions@ntlab.gr
Subject: Re: [Yasmin_discussions] Yasmin_discussions Digest, Vol 40,
Issue 3
Message-ID:
<mailman.10.1622219330.12969.yasmin_discussions_ntlab.gr@ntlab.gr>
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Dear Yasminers,
Happy to read the description of such a great topic.
The idea is not absurd at all -- through us, the shared microbiome is
already voting.... >>>> ( from the description sent ---
"We are working him as part of initiatives to mitigate climate change,
> the absurd idea of giving plants the right to vote- the first step is a
citizen science project where YOU can
> poll the plants around you and 'represent' them
> in this yasmin discussion)
Best,
Clarissa
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> Date: Thu, 27 May 2021 07:54:37 +0200
> From: YASMIN DISCUSSIONS <yasmin_discussions@ntlab.gr>
> To: yasmin_discussions@ntlab.gr
> Subject: Re: [Yasmin_discussions] Yasmin_discussions Digest, Vol 40,
> Issue 1
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>
> Dear Roger,
>
> This sounds certainly an amazing topic.
> It can totally become Nomadic for sure.
>
> The last laser in Bellinzona was presented in the parc of a museum and
> under a big tree. The trees come from around the world and we evoked the
> idea of nomad trees.
>
> All the best
> Luca
>
>
> On Tue, 25 May 2021 at 11:01, <yasmin_discussions-request@ntlab.gr> wrote:
>
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> > 1. proposed yasmin discussions; should we , could we give plants
> > the right to vote (YASMIN DISCUSSIONS)
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> > plants the right to vote (YASMIN DISCUSSIONS)
> >
> >
> > ----------------------------------------------------------------------
> >
> > Message: 1
> > Date: Mon, 24 May 2021 12:51:34 -0500
> > From: YASMIN DISCUSSIONS <yasmin_discussions@ntlab.gr>
> > To: yasmin_discussions@ntlab.gr, Jonathon Keats
> > <jonathonkeats@gmail.com>, Czegledy <czegledy@interlog.com>
> > Subject: [Yasmin_discussions] proposed yasmin discussions; should we ,
> > could we give plants the right to vote
> > Message-ID:
> > <mailman.1.1621879166.12969.yasmin_discussions_ntlab.gr@ntlab.gr
> >
> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8"
> >
> > yasminers
> >
> > nina czegledy and fomenting a yasmin discussion with jonathon keats
> > Jonathon Keats is a conceptual artist and experimental philosopher[1]
> > known for creating large-scale thought experiments. Keats was born in
> > New York City and studied philosophy at Amherst College.[2] He now
> > lives in San Francisco and Italy.[3]
> > \
> > his latest provocation is part of his THE FUTURE DEMOCRACIES
> > LABORATORY: AUTOMATED GOVERNMENT PROTOTYPING SYSTEM
> > https://projects.cadre.sjsu.edu/democracyproject/index.html
> > The Future Democracies Laboratory is a research space dedicated to the
> > investigation of methodologies and technologies for collective
> > decision-making. Directed by experimental philosopher Jonathon Keats,
> > in collaboration with San Jos? State University students and CADRE
> > faculty Rhonda Holberton and Steve Durie, the transdisciplinary
> > laboratory hosts an open-source software platform for rapidly modeling
> > and testing democratic systems.
> >
> > We are working him as part of initiatives to mitigate climate change,
> > the absurd idea of giving plants the right
> > to vote- the first step is a citizen science project where YOU can
> > poll the plants around you and 'represent' them
> > in this yasmin discussion
> >
> > I am currently 'polling" plants in dallas and so far have discovered
> that:
> > a) i notice more unhappy people than unhappy plants- why cant dallas
> > provide all humans a minimum annual income-
> > as they do to plants who are watered and clipped and planted by the
> > city for free.
> > b) i dont know how to know whether a plant is 'happy' and my son
> > xavier said i was projecting
> > on plants things that are desirable to humans ( eg happiness) instead
> > of asking plants what THEY desire
> >
> > If anyone would like to help us organise this discussion contact nina
> and I
> > via rmalina@ alum.mit.edu and czegledyn@gmail.com
> >
> >
> >
> > ------------------------------
> >
> > Message: 2
> > Date: Mon, 24 May 2021 13:07:01 -0500
> > From: YASMIN DISCUSSIONS <yasmin_discussions@ntlab.gr>
> > To: yasmin_discussions@ntlab.gr, Jonathon Keats
> > <jonathonkeats@gmail.com>, Czegledy <czegledy@interlog.com>,
> > roger
> > malina <rmalina@alum.mit.edu>
> > Cc: Abdessamad EL MONTASSIR <elmontassir.abdessamad@gmail.com>, Elen
> > Nas <313nnas@gmail.com>, Guillermo Mu?oz <
> m.m.guillermo@gmail.com
> > >,
> > Dimitris Charitos <vedesign@otenet.gr>, Jo?o Silveira
> > <joaoarteciencia@gmail.com>
> > Subject: Re: [Yasmin_discussions] proposed yasmin discussions; should
> > we , could we give plants the right to vote
> > Message-ID:
> > <mailman.2.1621886940.12969.yasmin_discussions_ntlab.gr@ntlab.gr
> >
> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8"
> >
> > elen abdessamad
> > thanks for agreeing to participate on the yasmin discussion
> > let by jonathon keats, details below
> > subscribe to the discussion list using the info at the end
> > perhaps you could send the list a paragraph about yourself
> > and the foci of your research
> >
> > luca guillermo- i wonder if we could make this discussion 'nomadic "?
> >
> > roger malina
> >
> > to join yasmin discussion go to:
> > https://ntlab.gr/mailman/roster/yasmin_discussions_ntlab.gr
> > https://ntlab.gr/mailman/roster/yasmin_discussions_ntlab.gr
> >
> >
> > roger
> >
> > Roger in Dallas, please phone/txt/ +15108532007 if urgent
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > On Mon, May 24, 2021 at 12:51 PM roger malina <rmalina@alum.mit.edu>
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > yasminers
> > >
> > > nina czegledy and fomenting a yasmin discussion with jonathon keats
> > > Jonathon Keats is a conceptual artist and experimental philosopher[1]
> > > known for creating large-scale thought experiments. Keats was born in
> > > New York City and studied philosophy at Amherst College.[2] He now
> > > lives in San Francisco and Italy.[3]
> > > \
> > > his latest provocation is part of his THE FUTURE DEMOCRACIES
> > > LABORATORY: AUTOMATED GOVERNMENT PROTOTYPING SYSTEM
> > > https://projects.cadre.sjsu.edu/democracyproject/index.html
> > > The Future Democracies Laboratory is a research space dedicated to the
> > > investigation of methodologies and technologies for collective
> > > decision-making. Directed by experimental philosopher Jonathon Keats,
> > > in collaboration with San Jos? State University students and CADRE
> > > faculty Rhonda Holberton and Steve Durie, the transdisciplinary
> > > laboratory hosts an open-source software platform for rapidly modeling
> > > and testing democratic systems.
> > >
> > > We are working him as part of initiatives to mitigate climate change,
> > > the absurd idea of giving plants the right
> > > to vote- the first step is a citizen science project where YOU can
> > > poll the plants around you and 'represent' them
> > > in this yasmin discussion
> > >
> > > I am currently 'polling" plants in dallas and so far have discovered
> > that:
> > > a) i notice more unhappy people than unhappy plants- why cant dallas
> > > provide all humans a minimum annual income-
> > > as they do to plants who are watered and clipped and planted by the
> > > city for free.
> > > b) i dont know how to know whether a plant is 'happy' and my son
> > > xavier said i was projecting
> > > on plants things that are desirable to humans ( eg happiness) instead
> > > of asking plants what THEY desire
> > >
> > > If anyone would like to help us organise this discussion contact nina
> > and I
> > > via rmalina@ alum.mit.edu and czegledyn@gmail.com
> >
> >
> >
> > ------------------------------
> >
> > Subject: Digest Footer
> >
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> > Yasmin_discussions@ntlab.gr
> > http://ntlab.gr/mailman/listinfo/yasmin_discussions_ntlab.gr
> >
> >
> > ------------------------------
> >
> > End of Yasmin_discussions Digest, Vol 40, Issue 1
> > *************************************************
> >
> --
>
> *Luca Forcucci <https://linktr.ee/lucaforcucci>*
>
> *New Podcast*
> Matt Black / Coldcut-Ninja Tunes <http://www.ubqtlab.org>
>
> *Next Events*
> 17.5.2021 Universitat Polytecnica de Valencia / Spain (Lecture + Concert)
> 18.5.2021 Universitat Polytecnica de Valencia / Spain (Art & Science Talk)
> <https://www.leonardo.info/civicrm/event/info?reset=1&id=640>
>
> <https://ubqtlab.org/>
> *New Albums*
> De Rerum Natura
> <https://lucaforcucci.bandcamp.com/album/de-rerum-natura>
> Released by LFO Editions
> <https://lucaforcucci.bandcamp.com/album/de-rerum-natura>
>
> *New Paper*
> Deep Listening to the Amazon Rainforest through Sonic Architectures
> <https://www.mitpressjournals.org/doi/abs/10.1162/lmj_a_01090?mobileUi=0>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> <https://thewrong.org/voices-in-the-ether>
> <http://verylarge.works/>
>
>
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> *************************************************
>
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Message: 2
Date: Fri, 28 May 2021 12:16:43 +0200
From: YASMIN DISCUSSIONS <yasmin_discussions@ntlab.gr>
To: yasmin_discussions@ntlab.gr
Subject: [Yasmin_discussions] PLANT COMMUNICATION - Antonio Irre - Re:
Yasmin_discussions Digest, Vol 40, Issue 3
Message-ID:
<mailman.11.1622219358.12969.yasmin_discussions_ntlab.gr@ntlab.gr>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8"
Hello everybody,
it sounds like a very interesting project, Roger and Nina please let me
know how I can help in this!
Talking to plants is my current artistic approach, I made an
installation/relational device which allows to ask questions to plants ("If you
could talk to me, what would you like to ask me?", 2016) and now in an
ongoing project called PLart, with SLU university in Uppsala (also yasminer
Pier Luigi Capucci is involved) More info:
https://antonioirre.com/plart-project/
<https://antonioirre.com/plart-project/>
Interspecies communication is technically possible, but the question that
Roger's son did got the point: "reasoning" schemes and intelligence could
be very different. Anyway, since we are all bunches of cells trying to
survive, I think there are some soft, delicate spots of possible connection,
Greetings
A.
--
*Antonio Irre Catalano | artist, researcher, cultural designer*
*T.* (+39) 349.4262775 - *W. *https://antonioirre.com
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> Date: Thu, 27 May 2021 07:54:37 +0200
> From: YASMIN DISCUSSIONS <yasmin_discussions@ntlab.gr>
> To: yasmin_discussions@ntlab.gr
> Subject: Re: [Yasmin_discussions] Yasmin_discussions Digest, Vol 40,
> Issue 1
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> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8"
>
> Dear Roger,
>
> This sounds certainly an amazing topic.
> It can totally become Nomadic for sure.
>
> The last laser in Bellinzona was presented in the parc of a museum and
> under a big tree. The trees come from around the world and we evoked the
> idea of nomad trees.
>
> All the best
> Luca
>
>
> On Tue, 25 May 2021 at 11:01, <yasmin_discussions-request@ntlab.gr> wrote:
>
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> >
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> >
> > 1. proposed yasmin discussions; should we , could we give plants
> > the right to vote (YASMIN DISCUSSIONS)
> > 2. Re: proposed yasmin discussions; should we , could we give
> > plants the right to vote (YASMIN DISCUSSIONS)
> >
> >
> > ----------------------------------------------------------------------
> >
> > Message: 1
> > Date: Mon, 24 May 2021 12:51:34 -0500
> > From: YASMIN DISCUSSIONS <yasmin_discussions@ntlab.gr>
> > To: yasmin_discussions@ntlab.gr, Jonathon Keats
> > <jonathonkeats@gmail.com>, Czegledy <czegledy@interlog.com>
> > Subject: [Yasmin_discussions] proposed yasmin discussions; should we ,
> > could we give plants the right to vote
> > Message-ID:
> > <mailman.1.1621879166.12969.yasmin_discussions_ntlab.gr@ntlab.gr
> >
> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8"
> >
> > yasminers
> >
> > nina czegledy and fomenting a yasmin discussion with jonathon keats
> > Jonathon Keats is a conceptual artist and experimental philosopher[1]
> > known for creating large-scale thought experiments. Keats was born in
> > New York City and studied philosophy at Amherst College.[2] He now
> > lives in San Francisco and Italy.[3]
> > \
> > his latest provocation is part of his THE FUTURE DEMOCRACIES
> > LABORATORY: AUTOMATED GOVERNMENT PROTOTYPING SYSTEM
> > https://projects.cadre.sjsu.edu/democracyproject/index.html
> > The Future Democracies Laboratory is a research space dedicated to the
> > investigation of methodologies and technologies for collective
> > decision-making. Directed by experimental philosopher Jonathon Keats,
> > in collaboration with San Jos? State University students and CADRE
> > faculty Rhonda Holberton and Steve Durie, the transdisciplinary
> > laboratory hosts an open-source software platform for rapidly modeling
> > and testing democratic systems.
> >
> > We are working him as part of initiatives to mitigate climate change,
> > the absurd idea of giving plants the right
> > to vote- the first step is a citizen science project where YOU can
> > poll the plants around you and 'represent' them
> > in this yasmin discussion
> >
> > I am currently 'polling" plants in dallas and so far have discovered
> that:
> > a) i notice more unhappy people than unhappy plants- why cant dallas
> > provide all humans a minimum annual income-
> > as they do to plants who are watered and clipped and planted by the
> > city for free.
> > b) i dont know how to know whether a plant is 'happy' and my son
> > xavier said i was projecting
> > on plants things that are desirable to humans ( eg happiness) instead
> > of asking plants what THEY desire
> >
> > If anyone would like to help us organise this discussion contact nina
> and I
> > via rmalina@ alum.mit.edu and czegledyn@gmail.com
> >
> >
> >
> > ------------------------------
> >
> > Message: 2
> > Date: Mon, 24 May 2021 13:07:01 -0500
> > From: YASMIN DISCUSSIONS <yasmin_discussions@ntlab.gr>
> > To: yasmin_discussions@ntlab.gr, Jonathon Keats
> > <jonathonkeats@gmail.com>, Czegledy <czegledy@interlog.com>,
> > roger
> > malina <rmalina@alum.mit.edu>
> > Cc: Abdessamad EL MONTASSIR <elmontassir.abdessamad@gmail.com>, Elen
> > Nas <313nnas@gmail.com>, Guillermo Mu?oz <
> m.m.guillermo@gmail.com
> > >,
> > Dimitris Charitos <vedesign@otenet.gr>, Jo?o Silveira
> > <joaoarteciencia@gmail.com>
> > Subject: Re: [Yasmin_discussions] proposed yasmin discussions; should
> > we , could we give plants the right to vote
> > Message-ID:
> > <mailman.2.1621886940.12969.yasmin_discussions_ntlab.gr@ntlab.gr
> >
> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8"
> >
> > elen abdessamad
> > thanks for agreeing to participate on the yasmin discussion
> > let by jonathon keats, details below
> > subscribe to the discussion list using the info at the end
> > perhaps you could send the list a paragraph about yourself
> > and the foci of your research
> >
> > luca guillermo- i wonder if we could make this discussion 'nomadic "?
> >
> > roger malina
> >
> > to join yasmin discussion go to:
> > https://ntlab.gr/mailman/roster/yasmin_discussions_ntlab.gr
> > https://ntlab.gr/mailman/roster/yasmin_discussions_ntlab.gr
> >
> >
> > roger
> >
> > Roger in Dallas, please phone/txt/ +15108532007 if urgent
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > On Mon, May 24, 2021 at 12:51 PM roger malina <rmalina@alum.mit.edu>
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > yasminers
> > >
> > > nina czegledy and fomenting a yasmin discussion with jonathon keats
> > > Jonathon Keats is a conceptual artist and experimental philosopher[1]
> > > known for creating large-scale thought experiments. Keats was born in
> > > New York City and studied philosophy at Amherst College.[2] He now
> > > lives in San Francisco and Italy.[3]
> > > \
> > > his latest provocation is part of his THE FUTURE DEMOCRACIES
> > > LABORATORY: AUTOMATED GOVERNMENT PROTOTYPING SYSTEM
> > > https://projects.cadre.sjsu.edu/democracyproject/index.html
> > > The Future Democracies Laboratory is a research space dedicated to the
> > > investigation of methodologies and technologies for collective
> > > decision-making. Directed by experimental philosopher Jonathon Keats,
> > > in collaboration with San Jos? State University students and CADRE
> > > faculty Rhonda Holberton and Steve Durie, the transdisciplinary
> > > laboratory hosts an open-source software platform for rapidly modeling
> > > and testing democratic systems.
> > >
> > > We are working him as part of initiatives to mitigate climate change,
> > > the absurd idea of giving plants the right
> > > to vote- the first step is a citizen science project where YOU can
> > > poll the plants around you and 'represent' them
> > > in this yasmin discussion
> > >
> > > I am currently 'polling" plants in dallas and so far have discovered
> > that:
> > > a) i notice more unhappy people than unhappy plants- why cant dallas
> > > provide all humans a minimum annual income-
> > > as they do to plants who are watered and clipped and planted by the
> > > city for free.
> > > b) i dont know how to know whether a plant is 'happy' and my son
> > > xavier said i was projecting
> > > on plants things that are desirable to humans ( eg happiness) instead
> > > of asking plants what THEY desire
> > >
> > > If anyone would like to help us organise this discussion contact nina
> > and I
> > > via rmalina@ alum.mit.edu and czegledyn@gmail.com
> >
> >
> >
> > ------------------------------
> >
> > Subject: Digest Footer
> >
> > _______________________________________________
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> > Yasmin_discussions@ntlab.gr
> > http://ntlab.gr/mailman/listinfo/yasmin_discussions_ntlab.gr
> >
> >
> > ------------------------------
> >
> > End of Yasmin_discussions Digest, Vol 40, Issue 1
> > *************************************************
> >
> --
>
> *Luca Forcucci <https://linktr.ee/lucaforcucci>*
>
> *New Podcast*
> Matt Black / Coldcut-Ninja Tunes <http://www.ubqtlab.org>
>
> *Next Events*
> 17.5.2021 Universitat Polytecnica de Valencia / Spain (Lecture + Concert)
> 18.5.2021 Universitat Polytecnica de Valencia / Spain (Art & Science Talk)
> <https://www.leonardo.info/civicrm/event/info?reset=1&id=640>
>
> <https://ubqtlab.org/>
> *New Albums*
> De Rerum Natura
> <https://lucaforcucci.bandcamp.com/album/de-rerum-natura>
> Released by LFO Editions
> <https://lucaforcucci.bandcamp.com/album/de-rerum-natura>
>
> *New Paper*
> Deep Listening to the Amazon Rainforest through Sonic Architectures
> <https://www.mitpressjournals.org/doi/abs/10.1162/lmj_a_01090?mobileUi=0>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> <https://thewrong.org/voices-in-the-ether>
> <http://verylarge.works/>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Subject: Digest Footer
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>
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> *************************************************
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