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Date: Tue, 2 Feb 2021 09:29:17 +0100
From: YASMIN DISCUSSIONS <yasmin_discussions@ntlab.gr>
To: Dimitris Charitos <vedesign@otenet.gr>
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Hello Dimitris and everyone!
it's really nice to see this in the inbox :)
> - What would we like to see YASMIN evolving into in the post-pandemic
> era ?
>
> you know Dimitris, I really enjoy staying up to date in what all of you
are doing and, as a matter of fact, this kind of curated, selectes,
communal kind of selection that can take place in this kind of mailing list
helps a lot to grasp signal from noise. From this point of view, I wish
there was more of this storytelling. What are you all doing? Don't keep it
to yourselves in these times of isolation and of communicational fatigue. I
have always had good ideas come up from our interactions.
And, on top of that, I think that in these times one other thing that could
really spice things up in meaningful ways would be the idea of
collaboration.
If, on the one hand, I love to hear what you're doing, I would love even
more doing something together.
So why not have collaborations from the beginning of the process? Project
ideas, partner search, collaborative project writing etc
Let's do a European project together! Let's find some grants together and
tackle one or more of the topics we are talking about.
I've done it already with a couple of you all and it's been wonderful. I
guess that doing it as an explicitly out in the public, would bring people
further together and give even more the sense of a Mediterranean way to
arts+science+technology
to help this not get out of hand, maybe for both these things we could have
"formats" or something like it: a "what are you up to" format, a "project
idea" format, a "partner search" format etc
or, we may find out that the "format" thing is too cumbersome, and we just
need the intention and purpose, and that communal informality fits more the
mediterranean. I don't know, and I can't say it alone.
But i wanted to bring these two things out, as I feel that they could help
shape a shared effort and bring us closer together (and also augment
Yasmin's impact)
cheers and hugs!
Salvatore
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*Human Ecosystems Relazioni* - https://www.he-r.it/
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Date: Tue, 2 Feb 2021 11:05:17 -0600
From: YASMIN DISCUSSIONS <yasmin_discussions@ntlab.gr>
To: roger malina <rmalina@alum.mit.edu>
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Subject: Re: [Yasmin_discussions] let yasmin die ?
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Dear Roger and All,
Since the idea of letting yasmin die was in no way intended, please allow me to rephrase/simplify the essence of my suggestion:
1. Radical care may be an important component of in any/all forms of phoenix (social, technological, economic, political, scientific, etc).
2. A desire to radically care can stem from a visceral understanding of interdependence.
3. Radical care is not (nor can or should it be) a tenet of the scientific method?which, by its very nature, requires an objective, detached stance.
4. Could science-minded creative practitioners assist in crafting a new, more radically caring ?ecological imaginary??
Abstract from my recent thesis <https://digitalcommons.risd.edu/masterstheses/415/> (which I would be grateful for the opportunity to discuss with anyone interested, off list if preferred):
The contradictions inherent in European Enlightenment-based ?logics? that externalize humans from ?nature? were a concern for the Romantic Naturalists, Dadaists, and Surrealists. More recently, some in the environmental humanities and socio-ecologically-concerned arts and sciences have also posed challenges to anthropocentric, hierarchical, positivist modes of thought. I suggest that by engaging the ludic, imaginative, and collaborative while bearing the empirical in mind, dualisms (such as objective and subjective, individual and collective) dissipate, and existence as a dialectical state of intricate ensemble can be revealed. In light of catastrophic disruption to Earth?s life-sustaining processes by exploitative forms of human activity, I argue an ?ecological imaginary? is urgently needed, and everyone is capable of contributing to its prefiguring.
Once again, in solidarity,
Alyce
alycesantoro.com <https://www.alycesantoro.com/>
> On Feb 1, 2021, at 1:06 PM, roger malina <rmalina@alum.mit.edu> wrote:
>
> yasminers
>
> Alyce Santoro pushes us to think differently with her reply to our
> discussions on whether YASMIN should re-arise ;like a phoenix after
> the pandemic. I think her reply is : MAYBE NOT- read on
>
> alyce says: knowledge production reinforces an impression that humans
> are autonomous entities/outside observers, separate from one another
> and the biosphere?
> and goes on to explain that humans are in-separable from viruses as
> the pandemic is now teaching us again.
>
> my comment: scientists realised only recently that the ideas we have,
> are as independent of the shape of our body as the shape of our
> clothes are ( einstein) so we now need to quote Alyce Santoro are the
> ideas we have independent of the nature of our viruses ?
>
> so how do we cross connect yasmin, with the biosphere and the world of
> the viruses we need to learn how to love (the good ones, not the bad
> ones)
>
>
> Roger Malina
>
> Alyce you say:
> knowledge production reinforce an impression that humans are
> autonomous entities/outside observers, separate from one another and
> the biosphere? Rather, might a fundamental sense of situatedness
> within, instead of outside of or above, an externalized conception of
> ?nature? lead to more constructive, egalitarian,
> humanist/post-humanist, solutions?and might creative practitioners
> ?excavating Could it be that empirical, hierarchical, dualistic forms
> of in the terrains of science? contribute to revealing ?that where
> scientists [alone] could not"? The virus has powerfully demonstrated
> the ways in which humanity is interwoven with and inseparable from the
> vast milieu of planetary systems and forces
> On Mon, Feb 1, 2021 at 12:35 PM Alyce Santoro <alyce@alycesantoro.com> wrote:
>>
>> Dear All,
>>
>> I would like to elaborate on the point Stephen raises below: "Art excavating in the terrains of science, can reveal that where the scientists could not?. In a post to the group last April, I asked whether the objective stance we are obliged to take as good scientists may lead to an unintended consequence: knowledge production reinforce an impression that humans are autonomous entities/outside observers, separate from one another and the biosphere? Rather, might a fundamental sense of situatedness within, instead of outside of or above, an externalized conception of ?nature? lead to more constructive, egalitarian, humanist/post-humanist, solutions?and might creative practitioners ?excavating Could it be that empirical, hierarchical, dualistic forms of in the terrains of science? contribute to revealing ?that where scientists [alone] could not"? The virus has powerfully demonstrated the ways in which humanity is interwoven with and inseparable from the vast milieu of planetary systems and forces?at the same time it has emphasized the need for sound science and clear science communication.
>>
>> I ask: Can dualism be applied when due, while undue dualism is undone?
>>
>> I would also like to express appreciation for Roger?s mention of Gary Hall?s pirate philosophy and Guillermo Munoz? Piratas de la Ciencia. Here in the US, Science for the People is doing excellent work to challenge "militarization of scientific research, the corporate control of research agendas, the political implications of sociobiology and other scientific theories, the environmental consequences of energy policy, inequalities in health care, and many other issues.?
>>
>> Along the lines of pirate philosophy and the concept of mutual aid, I would like to add a recommendation to the work of social ecologist/communitarian anarchist philosopher John P. Clark. The Impossible Community, Realizing Communitarian Anarchy and Anarchy, Geography, Modernity: Selected Writings of Elis?e Reclus.
>>
>> In solidarity,
>> Alyce Santoro
>> alycesantoro.com
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Jan 31, 2021, at 7:52 PM, YASMIN DISCUSSIONS <yasmin_discussions@ntlab.gr> wrote:
>>
>>
>> Yasmin Phoenicians!
>>
>> Among stubborn socio-political/cultural bulwarks in need of being pirated by a certain 21st century progressive onset of activism, the dualist notion of a co-existing natural/supernatural reality to all things looms large. I think huge, actually -- elephant-in-the-room gigantic. Disinformation and alternative truths were not invented by Donald Trump -- they form the mass social-cultural backbone for all of human history -- i.e., an entirely anti-science notion that beneath its physical facade, the Universe is governed by supernatural forces. Not to mention the Earth itself, and in the face of today's advanced science, the muck of a deeply rooted and institutionalized, powerful and enormously wealthy supernatural belief complex among the planet's human animals, coupled with an inability of human scientists themselves to exploit and communicate the liberating non-supernatural spirituality and ontological meaning inherent in their simple search for a truth of things, is like a termite infestation in the woodwork structures of progressive desire for change.
>>
>> I don't mean religions per se, there are many humanitarian ones or even a God notion whatever that means. It all begins with the stubborn fictional meme from our ancient past of "supernatural," derailing the momentum toward critical paths to our future at the 21st century. The notion of spirit, that being a profoundly emotional connection to existence, needs to be pirated from the falsely omniscious supernatural-based institutions that wield it, robbed from those pretenders and given back to the "natural" (i.e. science) in which it is properly nested, imbued with the rich biological sensations of meaning that evolution has gifted us as a reward for uncovering truth. Art excavating in the terrains of science, can reveal that where the scientists could not.
>>
>> Stephen Nowlin
>>
>> ________________________________________
>> From: roger malina <rmalina@alum.mit.edu>
>> Sent: Thursday, January 28, 2021 12:19 PM
>> To: yasmin_announcements@ntlab.gr; yasmin_discussions@ntlab.gr
>> Subject: yasmin phoenix, pirates, phoenicians and etruscans and and emerging digi-indigenous ingenious natives
>>
>> Yasminers
>> and in particular Dalila Honorato, Stephen Nowlin and Luca Forcucci
>> and Gullermo Munoz
>>
>> Dalila triggered the metaphor of YASMIN PHOENIX for the work we are
>> starting to have a new different YASMIN rise from the ashes of the
>> pandemic- let me add that we should think as yasminers as pirates
>>
>> Immediately it triggered my memory of reading Gary Hall's Pirate
>> Philosophy https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://mitpress.mit.edu/books/pirate-philosophy__;!!Fh--17vRJmFW!h87pOpvBVOSMBCJEoYBf9xn0QDi5wgjBhCBipq_3iQpbigN8Ir1emxYySevwLtWHNujTwyof$ and his
>> unpacking the very useful innovation role that pirates played in the
>> Mediterranean- i have copied this email to him in case he has an
>> update on how pirate philosophy might be relevant in the post pandemic
>> digi-indigenous culture that the digi-natives are inventing as we read
>> the new rituals, customs and behaviours for the post pandemic world
>> and its increasing virtual reality- and we digital elders stand back
>> and notice but don't meddle- ok digi-natives take over YASMIN PHOENI
>>
>> secondly YASMIN moderator Guillermo Munoz co founded the group in
>> spain called "pirates of science'
>> https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.piratasdelaciencia.com/blog/quienes-somos/__;!!Fh--17vRJmFW!h87pOpvBVOSMBCJEoYBf9xn0QDi5wgjBhCBipq_3iQpbigN8Ir1emxYySevwLtWHNrQ2xq-4$ so maybe the
>> pirate metaphor could be helpful as we work on the helping the YASMIN
>> PHOENIX arise from the ashes with the help of the YASMIN pirates and
>> phoenicians-- i have copied Guillermo also in case he has some
>> thoughts too
>>
>> luca forcucci also suggested: I am all in for the flight, and let's
>> not forget the Etruscans !
>> all the best Luca
>>
>> and stephen nowlin: Roger -- as our nearest star rises seemingly anew
>> over a political return to some sanity here in the U.S., your news
>> feels timely and welcomed. Happy to climb aboard the flight of the
>> YASMIN Phenix!
>>
>>
>> and
>>
>> Roger Malina
>> more on gary hall below:
>> Gary Hall is a critical theorist and media philosopher working in the
>> areas of digital culture, politics and technology. He is Professor of
>> Media at Coventry University, UK, where he directs the Centre for
>> Postdigital Cultures which brings together media theorists,
>> practitioners, activists and artists.
>>
>> He is the author of a number of books, including The Inhumanist
>> Manifesto (Techne Lab, 2017), Pirate Philosophy (MIT Press, 2016) and
>> The Uberfication of the University (Minnesota UP, 2016).
>>
>> How philosophers and theorists can find new models for the creation,
>> publication, and dissemination of knowledge, challenging the received
>> ideas of originality, authorship, and the book.
>>
>> In Pirate Philosophy, Gary Hall considers whether the fight against
>> the neoliberal corporatization of higher education in fact requires
>> scholars to transform their own lives and labor. Is there a way for
>> philosophers and theorists to act not just for or with the
>> antiausterity and student protestors??graduates without a future??but
>> in terms of their political struggles? Drawing on such phenomena as
>> peer-to-peer file sharing and anticopyright/pro-piracy movements, Hall
>> explores how those in academia can move beyond finding new ways of
>> thinking about the world to find instead new ways of being theorists
>> and philosophers in the world.
>>
>> Hall describes the politics of online sharing, the battles against the
>> current intellectual property regime, and the actions of Anonymous,
>> LulzSec, Aaron Swartz, and others, and he explains Creative Commons
>> and the open access, open source, and free software movements. But in
>> the heart of the book he considers how, when it comes to scholarly
>> ways of creating, performing, and sharing knowledge, philosophers and
>> theorists can challenge not just the neoliberal model of the
>> entrepreneurial academic but also the traditional humanist model with
>> its received ideas of proprietorial authorship, the book, originality,
>> fixity, and the finished object. In other words, can scholars and
>> students today become something like pirate philosophers?
>>
>> and the phoenicians:
>> The Phoenicians came to prominence following the collapse (c. 1150 BC)
>> of most major cultures during the Late Bronze Age. They were renowned
>> in antiquity as adept merchants, expert seafarers, and intrepid
>> explorers.[citation needed] They developed an expansive maritime trade
>> network that lasted over a millennium, becoming the dominant
>> commercial power for much of classical antiquity. Phoenician trade
>> also helped facilitate the exchange of cultures, ideas, and knowledge
>> between major cradles of civilization such as Greece, Egypt, and
>> Mesopotamia. After its zenith in the ninth century BC, the Phoenician
>> civilization in the eastern Mediterranean slowly declined in the face
>> of foreign influence and conquest, though its presence would remain in
>> the central and western Mediterranean until the second century BC.
>>
>>
>> PS words matter: nina czegledy thinks the term 'digi-indigenous' is an
>> inappropriate appropriation of the values of indigenous cultures
>>
>> Roger in Dallas, please phone/txt/ +15108532007 if urgent
>>
>> _______________________________________________
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>>
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Date: Mon, 1 Feb 2021 13:06:05 -0600
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To: Alyce Santoro <alyce@alycesantoro.com>
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yasminers
Alyce Santoro pushes us to think differently with her reply to our
discussions on whether YASMIN should re-arise ;like a phoenix after
the pandemic. I think her reply is : MAYBE NOT- read on
alyce says: knowledge production reinforces an impression that humans
are autonomous entities/outside observers, separate from one another
and the biosphere?
and goes on to explain that humans are in-separable from viruses as
the pandemic is now teaching us again.
my comment: scientists realised only recently that the ideas we have,
are as independent of the shape of our body as the shape of our
clothes are ( einstein) so we now need to quote Alyce Santoro are the
ideas we have independent of the nature of our viruses ?
so how do we cross connect yasmin, with the biosphere and the world of
the viruses we need to learn how to love (the good ones, not the bad
ones)
Roger Malina
Alyce you say:
knowledge production reinforce an impression that humans are
autonomous entities/outside observers, separate from one another and
the biosphere? Rather, might a fundamental sense of situatedness
within, instead of outside of or above, an externalized conception of
?nature? lead to more constructive, egalitarian,
humanist/post-humanist, solutions?and might creative practitioners
?excavating Could it be that empirical, hierarchical, dualistic forms
of in the terrains of science? contribute to revealing ?that where
scientists [alone] could not"? The virus has powerfully demonstrated
the ways in which humanity is interwoven with and inseparable from the
vast milieu of planetary systems and forces
On Mon, Feb 1, 2021 at 12:35 PM Alyce Santoro <alyce@alycesantoro.com> wrote:
>
> Dear All,
>
> I would like to elaborate on the point Stephen raises below: "Art excavating in the terrains of science, can reveal that where the scientists could not?. In a post to the group last April, I asked whether the objective stance we are obliged to take as good scientists may lead to an unintended consequence: knowledge production reinforce an impression that humans are autonomous entities/outside observers, separate from one another and the biosphere? Rather, might a fundamental sense of situatedness within, instead of outside of or above, an externalized conception of ?nature? lead to more constructive, egalitarian, humanist/post-humanist, solutions?and might creative practitioners ?excavating Could it be that empirical, hierarchical, dualistic forms of in the terrains of science? contribute to revealing ?that where scientists [alone] could not"? The virus has powerfully demonstrated the ways in which humanity is interwoven with and inseparable from the vast milieu of planetary systems and forces?at the same time it has emphasized the need for sound science and clear science communication.
>
> I ask: Can dualism be applied when due, while undue dualism is undone?
>
> I would also like to express appreciation for Roger?s mention of Gary Hall?s pirate philosophy and Guillermo Munoz? Piratas de la Ciencia. Here in the US, Science for the People is doing excellent work to challenge "militarization of scientific research, the corporate control of research agendas, the political implications of sociobiology and other scientific theories, the environmental consequences of energy policy, inequalities in health care, and many other issues.?
>
> Along the lines of pirate philosophy and the concept of mutual aid, I would like to add a recommendation to the work of social ecologist/communitarian anarchist philosopher John P. Clark. The Impossible Community, Realizing Communitarian Anarchy and Anarchy, Geography, Modernity: Selected Writings of Elis?e Reclus.
>
> In solidarity,
> Alyce Santoro
> alycesantoro.com
>
>
>
>
> On Jan 31, 2021, at 7:52 PM, YASMIN DISCUSSIONS <yasmin_discussions@ntlab.gr> wrote:
>
>
> Yasmin Phoenicians!
>
> Among stubborn socio-political/cultural bulwarks in need of being pirated by a certain 21st century progressive onset of activism, the dualist notion of a co-existing natural/supernatural reality to all things looms large. I think huge, actually -- elephant-in-the-room gigantic. Disinformation and alternative truths were not invented by Donald Trump -- they form the mass social-cultural backbone for all of human history -- i.e., an entirely anti-science notion that beneath its physical facade, the Universe is governed by supernatural forces. Not to mention the Earth itself, and in the face of today's advanced science, the muck of a deeply rooted and institutionalized, powerful and enormously wealthy supernatural belief complex among the planet's human animals, coupled with an inability of human scientists themselves to exploit and communicate the liberating non-supernatural spirituality and ontological meaning inherent in their simple search for a truth of things, is like a termite infestation in the woodwork structures of progressive desire for change.
>
> I don't mean religions per se, there are many humanitarian ones or even a God notion whatever that means. It all begins with the stubborn fictional meme from our ancient past of "supernatural," derailing the momentum toward critical paths to our future at the 21st century. The notion of spirit, that being a profoundly emotional connection to existence, needs to be pirated from the falsely omniscious supernatural-based institutions that wield it, robbed from those pretenders and given back to the "natural" (i.e. science) in which it is properly nested, imbued with the rich biological sensations of meaning that evolution has gifted us as a reward for uncovering truth. Art excavating in the terrains of science, can reveal that where the scientists could not.
>
> Stephen Nowlin
>
> ________________________________________
> From: roger malina <rmalina@alum.mit.edu>
> Sent: Thursday, January 28, 2021 12:19 PM
> To: yasmin_announcements@ntlab.gr; yasmin_discussions@ntlab.gr
> Subject: yasmin phoenix, pirates, phoenicians and etruscans and and emerging digi-indigenous ingenious natives
>
> Yasminers
> and in particular Dalila Honorato, Stephen Nowlin and Luca Forcucci
> and Gullermo Munoz
>
> Dalila triggered the metaphor of YASMIN PHOENIX for the work we are
> starting to have a new different YASMIN rise from the ashes of the
> pandemic- let me add that we should think as yasminers as pirates
>
> Immediately it triggered my memory of reading Gary Hall's Pirate
> Philosophy https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://mitpress.mit.edu/books/pirate-philosophy__;!!Fh--17vRJmFW!h87pOpvBVOSMBCJEoYBf9xn0QDi5wgjBhCBipq_3iQpbigN8Ir1emxYySevwLtWHNujTwyof$ and his
> unpacking the very useful innovation role that pirates played in the
> Mediterranean- i have copied this email to him in case he has an
> update on how pirate philosophy might be relevant in the post pandemic
> digi-indigenous culture that the digi-natives are inventing as we read
> the new rituals, customs and behaviours for the post pandemic world
> and its increasing virtual reality- and we digital elders stand back
> and notice but don't meddle- ok digi-natives take over YASMIN PHOENI
>
> secondly YASMIN moderator Guillermo Munoz co founded the group in
> spain called "pirates of science'
> https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.piratasdelaciencia.com/blog/quienes-somos/__;!!Fh--17vRJmFW!h87pOpvBVOSMBCJEoYBf9xn0QDi5wgjBhCBipq_3iQpbigN8Ir1emxYySevwLtWHNrQ2xq-4$ so maybe the
> pirate metaphor could be helpful as we work on the helping the YASMIN
> PHOENIX arise from the ashes with the help of the YASMIN pirates and
> phoenicians-- i have copied Guillermo also in case he has some
> thoughts too
>
> luca forcucci also suggested: I am all in for the flight, and let's
> not forget the Etruscans !
> all the best Luca
>
> and stephen nowlin: Roger -- as our nearest star rises seemingly anew
> over a political return to some sanity here in the U.S., your news
> feels timely and welcomed. Happy to climb aboard the flight of the
> YASMIN Phenix!
>
>
> and
>
> Roger Malina
> more on gary hall below:
> Gary Hall is a critical theorist and media philosopher working in the
> areas of digital culture, politics and technology. He is Professor of
> Media at Coventry University, UK, where he directs the Centre for
> Postdigital Cultures which brings together media theorists,
> practitioners, activists and artists.
>
> He is the author of a number of books, including The Inhumanist
> Manifesto (Techne Lab, 2017), Pirate Philosophy (MIT Press, 2016) and
> The Uberfication of the University (Minnesota UP, 2016).
>
> How philosophers and theorists can find new models for the creation,
> publication, and dissemination of knowledge, challenging the received
> ideas of originality, authorship, and the book.
>
> In Pirate Philosophy, Gary Hall considers whether the fight against
> the neoliberal corporatization of higher education in fact requires
> scholars to transform their own lives and labor. Is there a way for
> philosophers and theorists to act not just for or with the
> antiausterity and student protestors??graduates without a future??but
> in terms of their political struggles? Drawing on such phenomena as
> peer-to-peer file sharing and anticopyright/pro-piracy movements, Hall
> explores how those in academia can move beyond finding new ways of
> thinking about the world to find instead new ways of being theorists
> and philosophers in the world.
>
> Hall describes the politics of online sharing, the battles against the
> current intellectual property regime, and the actions of Anonymous,
> LulzSec, Aaron Swartz, and others, and he explains Creative Commons
> and the open access, open source, and free software movements. But in
> the heart of the book he considers how, when it comes to scholarly
> ways of creating, performing, and sharing knowledge, philosophers and
> theorists can challenge not just the neoliberal model of the
> entrepreneurial academic but also the traditional humanist model with
> its received ideas of proprietorial authorship, the book, originality,
> fixity, and the finished object. In other words, can scholars and
> students today become something like pirate philosophers?
>
> and the phoenicians:
> The Phoenicians came to prominence following the collapse (c. 1150 BC)
> of most major cultures during the Late Bronze Age. They were renowned
> in antiquity as adept merchants, expert seafarers, and intrepid
> explorers.[citation needed] They developed an expansive maritime trade
> network that lasted over a millennium, becoming the dominant
> commercial power for much of classical antiquity. Phoenician trade
> also helped facilitate the exchange of cultures, ideas, and knowledge
> between major cradles of civilization such as Greece, Egypt, and
> Mesopotamia. After its zenith in the ninth century BC, the Phoenician
> civilization in the eastern Mediterranean slowly declined in the face
> of foreign influence and conquest, though its presence would remain in
> the central and western Mediterranean until the second century BC.
>
>
> PS words matter: nina czegledy thinks the term 'digi-indigenous' is an
> inappropriate appropriation of the values of indigenous cultures
>
> Roger in Dallas, please phone/txt/ +15108532007 if urgent
>
> _______________________________________________
> Yasmin_discussions mailing list
> Yasmin_discussions@ntlab.gr
> http://ntlab.gr/mailman/listinfo/yasmin_discussions_ntlab.gr
>
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Dear All,
I would like to elaborate on the point Stephen raises below: "Art excavating in the terrains of science, can reveal that where the scientists could not?. In a post to the group last April, I asked whether the objective stance we are obliged to take as good scientists may lead to an unintended consequence: Could it be that empirical, hierarchical, dualistic forms of knowledge production reinforce an impression that humans are autonomous entities/outside observers, separate from one another and the biosphere? Rather, might a fundamental sense of situatedness within, instead of outside of or above, an externalized conception of ?nature? lead to more constructive, egalitarian, humanist/post-humanist, solutions?and might creative practitioners ?excavating in the terrains of science? contribute to revealing ?that where scientists [alone] could not"? The virus has powerfully demonstrated the ways in which humanity is interwoven <https://www.instagram.com/p/B-7jgVYF5rN/> with and inseparable from the vast milieu of planetary systems and forces?at the same time it has emphasized the need for sound science and clear science communication.
I ask: C <https://digitalcommons.risd.edu/masterstheses/415/>an dualism be applied when due, while undue dualism is undone? <https://digitalcommons.risd.edu/masterstheses/415/>
I would also like to express appreciation for Roger?s mention of Gary Hall?s pirate philosophy and Guillermo Munoz? Piratas de la Ciencia. Here in the US, Science for the People <https://scienceforthepeople.org/mission/> is doing excellent work to challenge "militarization of scientific research, the corporate control of research agendas, the political implications of sociobiology and other scientific theories, the environmental consequences of energy policy, inequalities in health care, and many other issues.?
Along the lines of pirate philosophy and the concept of mutual aid <https://wagingnonviolence.org/2020/03/coronavirus-mutual-aid-networks-erupt-across-country/>, I would like to add a recommendation to the work of social ecologist/communitarian anarchist philosopher John P. Clark. The Impossible Community, Realizing Communitarian Anarchy <https://truthout.org/articles/the-impossible-community-an-interview-with-john-p-clark-on-grassroots-revolution/> and Anarchy, Geography, Modernity: Selected Writings of Elis?e Reclus <https://blog.pmpress.org/2019/06/11/liberty-equality-geography-an-interview-with-john-p-clark-on-the-revolutionary-eco-anarchism-of-elisee-reclus/>.
In solidarity,
Alyce Santoro
alycesantoro.com <http://www.alycesantoro.com/>
> On Jan 31, 2021, at 7:52 PM, YASMIN DISCUSSIONS <yasmin_discussions@ntlab.gr> wrote:
>
>
> Yasmin Phoenicians!
>
> Among stubborn socio-political/cultural bulwarks in need of being pirated by a certain 21st century progressive onset of activism, the dualist notion of a co-existing natural/supernatural reality to all things looms large. I think huge, actually -- elephant-in-the-room gigantic. Disinformation and alternative truths were not invented by Donald Trump -- they form the mass social-cultural backbone for all of human history -- i.e., an entirely anti-science notion that beneath its physical facade, the Universe is governed by supernatural forces. Not to mention the Earth itself, and in the face of today's advanced science, the muck of a deeply rooted and institutionalized, powerful and enormously wealthy supernatural belief complex among the planet's human animals, coupled with an inability of human scientists themselves to exploit and communicate the liberating non-supernatural spirituality and ontological meaning inherent in their simple search for a truth of things, is like a termite infestation in the woodwork structures of progressive desire for change.
>
> I don't mean religions per se, there are many humanitarian ones or even a God notion whatever that means. It all begins with the stubborn fictional meme from our ancient past of "supernatural," derailing the momentum toward critical paths to our future at the 21st century. The notion of spirit, that being a profoundly emotional connection to existence, needs to be pirated from the falsely omniscious supernatural-based institutions that wield it, robbed from those pretenders and given back to the "natural" (i.e. science) in which it is properly nested, imbued with the rich biological sensations of meaning that evolution has gifted us as a reward for uncovering truth. Art excavating in the terrains of science, can reveal that where the scientists could not.
>
> Stephen Nowlin
>
> ________________________________________
> From: roger malina <rmalina@alum.mit.edu>
> Sent: Thursday, January 28, 2021 12:19 PM
> To: yasmin_announcements@ntlab.gr; yasmin_discussions@ntlab.gr
> Subject: yasmin phoenix, pirates, phoenicians and etruscans and and emerging digi-indigenous ingenious natives
>
> Yasminers
> and in particular Dalila Honorato, Stephen Nowlin and Luca Forcucci
> and Gullermo Munoz
>
> Dalila triggered the metaphor of YASMIN PHOENIX for the work we are
> starting to have a new different YASMIN rise from the ashes of the
> pandemic- let me add that we should think as yasminers as pirates
>
> Immediately it triggered my memory of reading Gary Hall's Pirate
> Philosophy https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://mitpress.mit.edu/books/pirate-philosophy__;!!Fh--17vRJmFW!h87pOpvBVOSMBCJEoYBf9xn0QDi5wgjBhCBipq_3iQpbigN8Ir1emxYySevwLtWHNujTwyof$ and his
> unpacking the very useful innovation role that pirates played in the
> Mediterranean- i have copied this email to him in case he has an
> update on how pirate philosophy might be relevant in the post pandemic
> digi-indigenous culture that the digi-natives are inventing as we read
> the new rituals, customs and behaviours for the post pandemic world
> and its increasing virtual reality- and we digital elders stand back
> and notice but don't meddle- ok digi-natives take over YASMIN PHOENI
>
> secondly YASMIN moderator Guillermo Munoz co founded the group in
> spain called "pirates of science'
> https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.piratasdelaciencia.com/blog/quienes-somos/__;!!Fh--17vRJmFW!h87pOpvBVOSMBCJEoYBf9xn0QDi5wgjBhCBipq_3iQpbigN8Ir1emxYySevwLtWHNrQ2xq-4$ so maybe the
> pirate metaphor could be helpful as we work on the helping the YASMIN
> PHOENIX arise from the ashes with the help of the YASMIN pirates and
> phoenicians-- i have copied Guillermo also in case he has some
> thoughts too
>
> luca forcucci also suggested: I am all in for the flight, and let's
> not forget the Etruscans !
> all the best Luca
>
> and stephen nowlin: Roger -- as our nearest star rises seemingly anew
> over a political return to some sanity here in the U.S., your news
> feels timely and welcomed. Happy to climb aboard the flight of the
> YASMIN Phenix!
>
>
> and
>
> Roger Malina
> more on gary hall below:
> Gary Hall is a critical theorist and media philosopher working in the
> areas of digital culture, politics and technology. He is Professor of
> Media at Coventry University, UK, where he directs the Centre for
> Postdigital Cultures which brings together media theorists,
> practitioners, activists and artists.
>
> He is the author of a number of books, including The Inhumanist
> Manifesto (Techne Lab, 2017), Pirate Philosophy (MIT Press, 2016) and
> The Uberfication of the University (Minnesota UP, 2016).
>
> How philosophers and theorists can find new models for the creation,
> publication, and dissemination of knowledge, challenging the received
> ideas of originality, authorship, and the book.
>
> In Pirate Philosophy, Gary Hall considers whether the fight against
> the neoliberal corporatization of higher education in fact requires
> scholars to transform their own lives and labor. Is there a way for
> philosophers and theorists to act not just for or with the
> antiausterity and student protestors??graduates without a future??but
> in terms of their political struggles? Drawing on such phenomena as
> peer-to-peer file sharing and anticopyright/pro-piracy movements, Hall
> explores how those in academia can move beyond finding new ways of
> thinking about the world to find instead new ways of being theorists
> and philosophers in the world.
>
> Hall describes the politics of online sharing, the battles against the
> current intellectual property regime, and the actions of Anonymous,
> LulzSec, Aaron Swartz, and others, and he explains Creative Commons
> and the open access, open source, and free software movements. But in
> the heart of the book he considers how, when it comes to scholarly
> ways of creating, performing, and sharing knowledge, philosophers and
> theorists can challenge not just the neoliberal model of the
> entrepreneurial academic but also the traditional humanist model with
> its received ideas of proprietorial authorship, the book, originality,
> fixity, and the finished object. In other words, can scholars and
> students today become something like pirate philosophers?
>
> and the phoenicians:
> The Phoenicians came to prominence following the collapse (c. 1150 BC)
> of most major cultures during the Late Bronze Age. They were renowned
> in antiquity as adept merchants, expert seafarers, and intrepid
> explorers.[citation needed] They developed an expansive maritime trade
> network that lasted over a millennium, becoming the dominant
> commercial power for much of classical antiquity. Phoenician trade
> also helped facilitate the exchange of cultures, ideas, and knowledge
> between major cradles of civilization such as Greece, Egypt, and
> Mesopotamia. After its zenith in the ninth century BC, the Phoenician
> civilization in the eastern Mediterranean slowly declined in the face
> of foreign influence and conquest, though its presence would remain in
> the central and western Mediterranean until the second century BC.
>
>
> PS words matter: nina czegledy thinks the term 'digi-indigenous' is an
> inappropriate appropriation of the values of indigenous cultures
>
> Roger in Dallas, please phone/txt/ +15108532007 if urgent
>
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Dear All,
I would like to elaborate on the point Stephen raises below: "Art excavating in the terrains of science, can reveal that where the scientists could not?. In a post to the group last April, I asked whether the objective stance we are obliged to take as good scientists may lead to an unintended consequence: Could it be that empirical, hierarchical, dualistic forms of knowledge production reinforce an impression that humans are autonomous entities/outside observers, separate from one another and the biosphere? Rather, might a fundamental sense of situatedness within, instead of outside of or above, an externalized conception of ?nature? lead to more constructive, egalitarian, humanist/post-humanist, solutions?and might creative practitioners ?excavating in the terrains of science? contribute to revealing ?that where scientists [alone] could not"? The virus has powerfully demonstrated the ways in which humanity is interwoven <https://www.instagram.com/p/B-7jgVYF5rN/> with and inseparable from the vast milieu of planetary systems and forces?at the same time it has emphasized the need for sound science and clear science communication.
I ask: C <https://digitalcommons.risd.edu/masterstheses/415/>an dualism be applied when due, while undue dualism is undone? <https://digitalcommons.risd.edu/masterstheses/415/>
I would also like to express appreciation for Roger?s mention of Gary Hall?s pirate philosophy and Guillermo Munoz? Piratas de la Ciencia. Here in the US, Science for the People <https://scienceforthepeople.org/mission/> is doing excellent work to challenge "militarization of scientific research, the corporate control of research agendas, the political implications of sociobiology and other scientific theories, the environmental consequences of energy policy, inequalities in health care, and many other issues.?
Along the lines of pirate philosophy and the concept of mutual aid <https://wagingnonviolence.org/2020/03/coronavirus-mutual-aid-networks-erupt-across-country/>, I would like to add a recommendation to the work of social ecologist/communitarian anarchist philosopher John P. Clark. The Impossible Community, Realizing Communitarian Anarchy <https://truthout.org/articles/the-impossible-community-an-interview-with-john-p-clark-on-grassroots-revolution/> and Anarchy, Geography, Modernity: Selected Writings of Elis?e Reclus <https://blog.pmpress.org/2019/06/11/liberty-equality-geography-an-interview-with-john-p-clark-on-the-revolutionary-eco-anarchism-of-elisee-reclus/>.
In solidarity,
Alyce Santoro
alycesantoro.com <http://www.alycesantoro.com/>
> On Jan 31, 2021, at 7:52 PM, YASMIN DISCUSSIONS <yasmin_discussions@ntlab.gr> wrote:
>
>
> Yasmin Phoenicians!
>
> Among stubborn socio-political/cultural bulwarks in need of being pirated by a certain 21st century progressive onset of activism, the dualist notion of a co-existing natural/supernatural reality to all things looms large. I think huge, actually -- elephant-in-the-room gigantic. Disinformation and alternative truths were not invented by Donald Trump -- they form the mass social-cultural backbone for all of human history -- i.e., an entirely anti-science notion that beneath its physical facade, the Universe is governed by supernatural forces. Not to mention the Earth itself, and in the face of today's advanced science, the muck of a deeply rooted and institutionalized, powerful and enormously wealthy supernatural belief complex among the planet's human animals, coupled with an inability of human scientists themselves to exploit and communicate the liberating non-supernatural spirituality and ontological meaning inherent in their simple search for a truth of things, is like a termite infestation in the woodwork structures of progressive desire for change.
>
> I don't mean religions per se, there are many humanitarian ones or even a God notion whatever that means. It all begins with the stubborn fictional meme from our ancient past of "supernatural," derailing the momentum toward critical paths to our future at the 21st century. The notion of spirit, that being a profoundly emotional connection to existence, needs to be pirated from the falsely omniscious supernatural-based institutions that wield it, robbed from those pretenders and given back to the "natural" (i.e. science) in which it is properly nested, imbued with the rich biological sensations of meaning that evolution has gifted us as a reward for uncovering truth. Art excavating in the terrains of science, can reveal that where the scientists could not.
>
> Stephen Nowlin
>
> ________________________________________
> From: roger malina <rmalina@alum.mit.edu>
> Sent: Thursday, January 28, 2021 12:19 PM
> To: yasmin_announcements@ntlab.gr; yasmin_discussions@ntlab.gr
> Subject: yasmin phoenix, pirates, phoenicians and etruscans and and emerging digi-indigenous ingenious natives
>
> Yasminers
> and in particular Dalila Honorato, Stephen Nowlin and Luca Forcucci
> and Gullermo Munoz
>
> Dalila triggered the metaphor of YASMIN PHOENIX for the work we are
> starting to have a new different YASMIN rise from the ashes of the
> pandemic- let me add that we should think as yasminers as pirates
>
> Immediately it triggered my memory of reading Gary Hall's Pirate
> Philosophy https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://mitpress.mit.edu/books/pirate-philosophy__;!!Fh--17vRJmFW!h87pOpvBVOSMBCJEoYBf9xn0QDi5wgjBhCBipq_3iQpbigN8Ir1emxYySevwLtWHNujTwyof$ and his
> unpacking the very useful innovation role that pirates played in the
> Mediterranean- i have copied this email to him in case he has an
> update on how pirate philosophy might be relevant in the post pandemic
> digi-indigenous culture that the digi-natives are inventing as we read
> the new rituals, customs and behaviours for the post pandemic world
> and its increasing virtual reality- and we digital elders stand back
> and notice but don't meddle- ok digi-natives take over YASMIN PHOENI
>
> secondly YASMIN moderator Guillermo Munoz co founded the group in
> spain called "pirates of science'
> https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.piratasdelaciencia.com/blog/quienes-somos/__;!!Fh--17vRJmFW!h87pOpvBVOSMBCJEoYBf9xn0QDi5wgjBhCBipq_3iQpbigN8Ir1emxYySevwLtWHNrQ2xq-4$ so maybe the
> pirate metaphor could be helpful as we work on the helping the YASMIN
> PHOENIX arise from the ashes with the help of the YASMIN pirates and
> phoenicians-- i have copied Guillermo also in case he has some
> thoughts too
>
> luca forcucci also suggested: I am all in for the flight, and let's
> not forget the Etruscans !
> all the best Luca
>
> and stephen nowlin: Roger -- as our nearest star rises seemingly anew
> over a political return to some sanity here in the U.S., your news
> feels timely and welcomed. Happy to climb aboard the flight of the
> YASMIN Phenix!
>
>
> and
>
> Roger Malina
> more on gary hall below:
> Gary Hall is a critical theorist and media philosopher working in the
> areas of digital culture, politics and technology. He is Professor of
> Media at Coventry University, UK, where he directs the Centre for
> Postdigital Cultures which brings together media theorists,
> practitioners, activists and artists.
>
> He is the author of a number of books, including The Inhumanist
> Manifesto (Techne Lab, 2017), Pirate Philosophy (MIT Press, 2016) and
> The Uberfication of the University (Minnesota UP, 2016).
>
> How philosophers and theorists can find new models for the creation,
> publication, and dissemination of knowledge, challenging the received
> ideas of originality, authorship, and the book.
>
> In Pirate Philosophy, Gary Hall considers whether the fight against
> the neoliberal corporatization of higher education in fact requires
> scholars to transform their own lives and labor. Is there a way for
> philosophers and theorists to act not just for or with the
> antiausterity and student protestors??graduates without a future??but
> in terms of their political struggles? Drawing on such phenomena as
> peer-to-peer file sharing and anticopyright/pro-piracy movements, Hall
> explores how those in academia can move beyond finding new ways of
> thinking about the world to find instead new ways of being theorists
> and philosophers in the world.
>
> Hall describes the politics of online sharing, the battles against the
> current intellectual property regime, and the actions of Anonymous,
> LulzSec, Aaron Swartz, and others, and he explains Creative Commons
> and the open access, open source, and free software movements. But in
> the heart of the book he considers how, when it comes to scholarly
> ways of creating, performing, and sharing knowledge, philosophers and
> theorists can challenge not just the neoliberal model of the
> entrepreneurial academic but also the traditional humanist model with
> its received ideas of proprietorial authorship, the book, originality,
> fixity, and the finished object. In other words, can scholars and
> students today become something like pirate philosophers?
>
> and the phoenicians:
> The Phoenicians came to prominence following the collapse (c. 1150 BC)
> of most major cultures during the Late Bronze Age. They were renowned
> in antiquity as adept merchants, expert seafarers, and intrepid
> explorers.[citation needed] They developed an expansive maritime trade
> network that lasted over a millennium, becoming the dominant
> commercial power for much of classical antiquity. Phoenician trade
> also helped facilitate the exchange of cultures, ideas, and knowledge
> between major cradles of civilization such as Greece, Egypt, and
> Mesopotamia. After its zenith in the ninth century BC, the Phoenician
> civilization in the eastern Mediterranean slowly declined in the face
> of foreign influence and conquest, though its presence would remain in
> the central and western Mediterranean until the second century BC.
>
>
> PS words matter: nina czegledy thinks the term 'digi-indigenous' is an
> inappropriate appropriation of the values of indigenous cultures
>
> Roger in Dallas, please phone/txt/ +15108532007 if urgent
>
> _______________________________________________
> Yasmin_discussions mailing list
> Yasmin_discussions@ntlab.gr
> http://ntlab.gr/mailman/listinfo/yasmin_discussions_ntlab.gr
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Actually, I don't think my update got through to everyone on the list.
(My subscription hadn't been confirmed, I suspect.) So I'm sending it
again. Apologies to anyone who has already seen this.
Gary
---
Roger,
Thank you for the generous introduction. You ask if I have an 'update on
how pirate philosophy might be relevant in the post pandemic' world?
One thing to mention here would be the Pirate Care project:
https://pirate.care/
This began with the Pirate Care conference, organised by the Centre for
Postdigital Cultures (CPC) at Coventry University
(https://www.coventry.ac.uk/research/areas-of-research/postdigital-cultures/),
which is where I work, and held in June
2019:https://www.coventry.ac.uk/research/about-us/research-events/2019/pirate-care-conference/
This led in turn to the Pirate Care Syllabus that some of my CPC
colleagues (including Valeria Graziano, Tomislav Medak and Marcell Mars)
helped collectively produce, also in 2019:
https://syllabus.pirate.care/topic/piratecareintroduction/#on-the-concept-of-pirate-care.
They were inspired to do so by the crowdsourced hashtag syllabi that
have been generated in association with social justice movements,
including the first round of Black Lives Matter protests. (The latter
saw the development of the #FergusonSyllabus in 2014, for instance.)
The Pirate Care Syllabus is a bottom-up response to the ongoing crisis
in care. It's designed:
a) to document the many self-organised and often technologically-enabled
practices of collective care that have been emerging over the period of
austerity (beginning in 2010) in response to poverty, precarity, cuts to
public healthcare, welfare and educational institutions, lack of
affordable housing and the criminalisation of migration;
b) to build resources for community teaching and study from these
practices.
An online syllabus allowing for collaborative writing, publishing and
remixing, the Pirate Care Syllabus covers topics such as the
Criminalization of Solidarity, Commoning Care, Sea Rescue as Care,
Housing Struggles, Psycho-Social Autonomy and Community Safety from
Racialized Policing.
These were added to in 2020 with ?Flatten the Curve, Grow the Care: What
Are We Learning from Covid-19?. Considered to be still too much in
process to have settled into a syllabi in its own right just yet, this
is conceived more as a collective note-taking effort to document the
wave of self-organised mutual aid initiatives foregrounding? ?care,
labour, technology and disobedience? that are being generated in
response to the coronavirus pandemic
(https://syllabus.pirate.care/topic/coronanotes).
The idea of both the Pirate Care Syllabus and ?Flatten the Curve, Grow
the Care? is to offer social movements in Italy, Croatia the UK and
beyond 'a technological framework and pedagogical process that helps
them transform their shared analysis of present confrontations and
reflections on past mobilisations into a learning material that can be
used to help others learn from their knowledge?
(https://syllabus.pirate.care/topic/piratecareintroduction/#on-making-a-syllabus-technopolitical-pedagogies).
For more, or for just a quick introduction, see details of the October
2020 Pirate Care: Learning From Disobedience exhibition in Rijeka:
http://drugo-more.hr/en/pirate-care/
Cheers, Gary
On 29/01/2021 18:28, YASMIN DISCUSSIONS wrote:
> yasminers
> doug hall shared his update on his concept of 'pirate philosophy: from
> his 2016 book
> hew draws your attention in particular to the links he sent us- and
> yes i think Yasmin Phoenicians should read pirate care syllabus and
> apply it as appropriate https://syllabus.pirate.care/
>
> thanks Doug, lets pirate on with the post pandemic provocateurs at your heels
>
> roger malina
>
> https://pirate.care/pages/concept/
> Pirate Care is a transnational research project and a network of
> activists, scholars and practitioners who stand against the
> criminalization of solidarity & for a common care infrastructure.
>
> Pirate Care, a syllabus
>
> We live in a world where captains get arrested for saving people?s
> lives on the sea; where a person downloading scientific articles faces
> 35 years in jail; where people risk charges for bringing
> contraceptives to those who otherwise couldn?t get them. Folks are
> getting in trouble for giving food to the poor, medicine to the sick,
> water to the thirsty, shelter to the homeless. And yet our heroines
> care and disobey. They are pirates.
>
> ________________________________
>
> Pirate Care is a research process - primarily based in the
> transnational European space - that maps the increasingly present
> forms of activism at the intersection of ?care? and ?piracy?, which in
> new and interesting ways are trying to intervene in one of the most
> important challenges of our time, that is, the ?crisis of care? in all
> its multiple and interconnected dimensions.
>
> These practices are experimenting with self-organisation, alternative
> approaches to social reproduction and the commoning of tools,
> technologies and knowledges. Often they act disobediently in expressed
> non-compliance with laws, regulations and executive orders that
> criminalise the duty of care by imposing exclusions along the lines of
> class, gender, race or territory. They are not shying risk of
> persecution in providing unconditional solidarity to those who are the
> most exploited, discriminated against and condemned to the status of
> disposable populations.
>
> The Pirate Care Syllabus we present here for the first time is a tool
> for supporting and activating collective processes of learning from
> these practices. We encourage everyone to freely use this syllabus to
> learn and organise processes of learning and to freely adapt, rewrite
> and expand it to reflect their own experience and serve their own
> pedagogies.
>
> 8th March 2020 - Please Note: The Pirate Care Syllabus is still work
> in progress. Some topics and sessions are still under development,
> more will be created during the residency at the Kunsthalle (beginning
> of April) and beyond.
>
> Roger in Dallas, please phone/txt/ +15108532007 if urgent
>
> _______________________________________________
> Yasmin_discussions mailing list
> Yasmin_discussions@ntlab.gr
> http://ntlab.gr/mailman/listinfo/yasmin_discussions_ntlab.gr
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Director of the Centre for Postdigital Cultures, Faculty of Arts & Humanities, Coventry University:
http://www.coventry.ac.uk/research/areas-of-research/postdigital-cultures
http://www.garyhall.info
Latest:
Book: A Stubborn Fury: How Writing Works in Elitist Britain:
http://www.openhumanitiespress.org/books/titles/a-stubborn-fury/
Forthcoming:
Chapter: ?Postdigital Politics?, in Cornelia Sollfrank, Shuhsa Niederberger and Felix Stalder, eds, Aesthetics of the Commons:
https://www.diaphanes.com/titel/aesthetics-of-the-commons-6419
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Cc: <yasmin_discussions@ntlab.gr>
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Dear YASMINers,
Roger has initiated a new discussion on the future of YASMIN in a very
inspiring manner with some very relevant ideas, followed by Gary Hall,
Aleksandra Dulic, Gregory Garvey, Aviva Rahmani.
YASMIN has been going on since 2005, that is a bit more than 15 years now.
It has been almost entirely based on voluntary work by a team of moderators
and has been hosted in the servers of the National and Kapodistrian
University of Athens for most of this time. We have gone through 3 different
phases and have kept most communications in respective archives.
Recently, we have started discussing about the future of YASMIN, in the very
difficult times that we are going through. Although activity in the
discussions and announcements list has been rather minimal during recent
months, YASMIN still seems relevant to many and indeed it is still very
important to us as a community. For this reason we thought that it is
important to maintain the YASMIN community and to initiate this discussion
about the future of YASMIN with all members of this community.
* What would we like to see YASMIN evolving into in the post-pandemic
era ?
* We started YASMIN as a network of artists, scientists, engineers,
theoreticians and institutions promoting collaboration in art, science and
technology around the Mediterranean Rim and beyond. Is this what we still
want ? How about investigating further the connections "beyond" ?
* What would a relaunched (but sustainable) YASMIN be like ? a mailing
list, a web site, anything else ?
All this may seem a bit too YASMIN-centric, while the whole world is in such
a turmoil. But in this turmoil it seems that communicating through YASMIN is
only positive for many of us and maybe it is something we need to keep and
probably enrich.
Roger's suggestions and Gary's ideas on Pirate philosophy and Pirate Care
seem very relevant to start with. I would suggest that we could continue
this discussion for the following weeks and then possibly organize a live
on-line meeting to finalize the discussion and agree on the future of
YASMIN.
Looking forward to the next steps
Best wishes
Dimitris
************************************
Dimitris Charitos
Associate Professor
Department of Communication and Media Studies
Head of Department of Digital Arts and Cinema
School of Economics and Political Sciences
National and Kapodistrian University of Athens
vedesign [at] otenet [dot] gr
URL: vedesign.gr
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To: roger malina <rmalina@alum.mit.edu>,
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"yasmin_discussions@ntlab.gr" <yasmin_discussions@ntlab.gr>
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Yasmin Phoenicians!
Among stubborn socio-political/cultural bulwarks in need of being pirated by a certain 21st century progressive onset of activism, the dualist notion of a co-existing natural/supernatural reality to all things looms large. I think huge, actually -- elephant-in-the-room gigantic. Disinformation and alternative truths were not invented by Donald Trump -- they form the mass social-cultural backbone for all of human history -- i.e., an entirely anti-science notion that beneath its physical facade, the Universe is governed by supernatural forces. Not to mention the Earth itself, and in the face of today's advanced science, the muck of a deeply rooted and institutionalized, powerful and enormously wealthy supernatural belief complex among the planet's human animals, coupled with an inability of human scientists themselves to exploit and communicate the liberating non-supernatural spirituality and ontological meaning inherent in their simple search for a truth of things, is like a termite infestation in the woodwork structures of progressive desire for change.
I don't mean religions per se, there are many humanitarian ones or even a God notion whatever that means. It all begins with the stubborn fictional meme from our ancient past of "supernatural," derailing the momentum toward critical paths to our future at the 21st century. The notion of spirit, that being a profoundly emotional connection to existence, needs to be pirated from the falsely omniscious supernatural-based institutions that wield it, robbed from those pretenders and given back to the "natural" (i.e. science) in which it is properly nested, imbued with the rich biological sensations of meaning that evolution has gifted us as a reward for uncovering truth. Art excavating in the terrains of science, can reveal that where the scientists could not.
Stephen Nowlin
________________________________________
From: roger malina <rmalina@alum.mit.edu>
Sent: Thursday, January 28, 2021 12:19 PM
To: yasmin_announcements@ntlab.gr; yasmin_discussions@ntlab.gr
Subject: yasmin phoenix, pirates, phoenicians and etruscans and and emerging digi-indigenous ingenious natives
Yasminers
and in particular Dalila Honorato, Stephen Nowlin and Luca Forcucci
and Gullermo Munoz
Dalila triggered the metaphor of YASMIN PHOENIX for the work we are
starting to have a new different YASMIN rise from the ashes of the
pandemic- let me add that we should think as yasminers as pirates
Immediately it triggered my memory of reading Gary Hall's Pirate
Philosophy https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://mitpress.mit.edu/books/pirate-philosophy__;!!Fh--17vRJmFW!h87pOpvBVOSMBCJEoYBf9xn0QDi5wgjBhCBipq_3iQpbigN8Ir1emxYySevwLtWHNujTwyof$ and his
unpacking the very useful innovation role that pirates played in the
Mediterranean- i have copied this email to him in case he has an
update on how pirate philosophy might be relevant in the post pandemic
digi-indigenous culture that the digi-natives are inventing as we read
the new rituals, customs and behaviours for the post pandemic world
and its increasing virtual reality- and we digital elders stand back
and notice but don't meddle- ok digi-natives take over YASMIN PHOENI
secondly YASMIN moderator Guillermo Munoz co founded the group in
spain called "pirates of science'
https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.piratasdelaciencia.com/blog/quienes-somos/__;!!Fh--17vRJmFW!h87pOpvBVOSMBCJEoYBf9xn0QDi5wgjBhCBipq_3iQpbigN8Ir1emxYySevwLtWHNrQ2xq-4$ so maybe the
pirate metaphor could be helpful as we work on the helping the YASMIN
PHOENIX arise from the ashes with the help of the YASMIN pirates and
phoenicians-- i have copied Guillermo also in case he has some
thoughts too
luca forcucci also suggested: I am all in for the flight, and let's
not forget the Etruscans !
all the best Luca
and stephen nowlin: Roger -- as our nearest star rises seemingly anew
over a political return to some sanity here in the U.S., your news
feels timely and welcomed. Happy to climb aboard the flight of the
YASMIN Phenix!
and
Roger Malina
more on gary hall below:
Gary Hall is a critical theorist and media philosopher working in the
areas of digital culture, politics and technology. He is Professor of
Media at Coventry University, UK, where he directs the Centre for
Postdigital Cultures which brings together media theorists,
practitioners, activists and artists.
He is the author of a number of books, including The Inhumanist
Manifesto (Techne Lab, 2017), Pirate Philosophy (MIT Press, 2016) and
The Uberfication of the University (Minnesota UP, 2016).
How philosophers and theorists can find new models for the creation,
publication, and dissemination of knowledge, challenging the received
ideas of originality, authorship, and the book.
In Pirate Philosophy, Gary Hall considers whether the fight against
the neoliberal corporatization of higher education in fact requires
scholars to transform their own lives and labor. Is there a way for
philosophers and theorists to act not just for or with the
antiausterity and student protestors??graduates without a future??but
in terms of their political struggles? Drawing on such phenomena as
peer-to-peer file sharing and anticopyright/pro-piracy movements, Hall
explores how those in academia can move beyond finding new ways of
thinking about the world to find instead new ways of being theorists
and philosophers in the world.
Hall describes the politics of online sharing, the battles against the
current intellectual property regime, and the actions of Anonymous,
LulzSec, Aaron Swartz, and others, and he explains Creative Commons
and the open access, open source, and free software movements. But in
the heart of the book he considers how, when it comes to scholarly
ways of creating, performing, and sharing knowledge, philosophers and
theorists can challenge not just the neoliberal model of the
entrepreneurial academic but also the traditional humanist model with
its received ideas of proprietorial authorship, the book, originality,
fixity, and the finished object. In other words, can scholars and
students today become something like pirate philosophers?
and the phoenicians:
The Phoenicians came to prominence following the collapse (c. 1150 BC)
of most major cultures during the Late Bronze Age. They were renowned
in antiquity as adept merchants, expert seafarers, and intrepid
explorers.[citation needed] They developed an expansive maritime trade
network that lasted over a millennium, becoming the dominant
commercial power for much of classical antiquity. Phoenician trade
also helped facilitate the exchange of cultures, ideas, and knowledge
between major cradles of civilization such as Greece, Egypt, and
Mesopotamia. After its zenith in the ninth century BC, the Phoenician
civilization in the eastern Mediterranean slowly declined in the face
of foreign influence and conquest, though its presence would remain in
the central and western Mediterranean until the second century BC.
PS words matter: nina czegledy thinks the term 'digi-indigenous' is an
inappropriate appropriation of the values of indigenous cultures
Roger in Dallas, please phone/txt/ +15108532007 if urgent
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Date: Sun, 31 Jan 2021 09:32:30 +0000
From: YASMIN DISCUSSIONS <yasmin_discussions@ntlab.gr>
To: yasmin_discussions@ntlab.gr
Subject: Re: [Yasmin_discussions] yasminers; pirate care for the
YASMIN PHOENIX
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Actually, I don't think my update got through to everyone on the list.
(My subscription hadn't been confirmed, I suspect.) So I'm sending it
again. Apologies to anyone who has already seen this.
Gary
---
Roger,
Thank you for the generous introduction. You ask if I have an 'update on
how pirate philosophy might be relevant in the post pandemic' world?
One thing to mention here would be the Pirate Care project:
https://pirate.care/
This began with the Pirate Care conference, organised by the Centre for
Postdigital Cultures (CPC) at Coventry University
(https://www.coventry.ac.uk/research/areas-of-research/postdigital-cultures/),
which is where I work, and held in June
2019:https://www.coventry.ac.uk/research/about-us/research-events/2019/pirate-care-conference/
This led in turn to the Pirate Care Syllabus that some of my CPC
colleagues (including Valeria Graziano, Tomislav Medak and Marcell Mars)
helped collectively produce, also in 2019:
https://syllabus.pirate.care/topic/piratecareintroduction/#on-the-concept-of-pirate-care.
They were inspired to do so by the crowdsourced hashtag syllabi that
have been generated in association with social justice movements,
including the first round of Black Lives Matter protests. (The latter
saw the development of the #FergusonSyllabus in 2014, for instance.)
The Pirate Care Syllabus is a bottom-up response to the ongoing crisis
in care. It's designed:
a) to document the many self-organised and often technologically-enabled
practices of collective care that have been emerging over the period of
austerity (beginning in 2010) in response to poverty, precarity, cuts to
public healthcare, welfare and educational institutions, lack of
affordable housing and the criminalisation of migration;
b) to build resources for community teaching and study from these
practices.
An online syllabus allowing for collaborative writing, publishing and
remixing, the Pirate Care Syllabus covers topics such as the
Criminalization of Solidarity, Commoning Care, Sea Rescue as Care,
Housing Struggles, Psycho-Social Autonomy and Community Safety from
Racialized Policing.
These were added to in 2020 with ?Flatten the Curve, Grow the Care: What
Are We Learning from Covid-19?. Considered to be still too much in
process to have settled into a syllabi in its own right just yet, this
is conceived more as a collective note-taking effort to document the
wave of self-organised mutual aid initiatives foregrounding? ?care,
labour, technology and disobedience? that are being generated in
response to the coronavirus pandemic
(https://syllabus.pirate.care/topic/coronanotes).
The idea of both the Pirate Care Syllabus and ?Flatten the Curve, Grow
the Care? is to offer social movements in Italy, Croatia the UK and
beyond 'a technological framework and pedagogical process that helps
them transform their shared analysis of present confrontations and
reflections on past mobilisations into a learning material that can be
used to help others learn from their knowledge?
(https://syllabus.pirate.care/topic/piratecareintroduction/#on-making-a-syllabus-technopolitical-pedagogies).
For more, or for just a quick introduction, see details of the October
2020 Pirate Care: Learning From Disobedience exhibition in Rijeka:
http://drugo-more.hr/en/pirate-care/
Cheers, Gary
On 29/01/2021 18:28, YASMIN DISCUSSIONS wrote:
> yasminers
> doug hall shared his update on his concept of 'pirate philosophy: from
> his 2016 book
> hew draws your attention in particular to the links he sent us- and
> yes i think Yasmin Phoenicians should read pirate care syllabus and
> apply it as appropriate https://syllabus.pirate.care/
>
> thanks Doug, lets pirate on with the post pandemic provocateurs at your heels
>
> roger malina
>
> https://pirate.care/pages/concept/
> Pirate Care is a transnational research project and a network of
> activists, scholars and practitioners who stand against the
> criminalization of solidarity & for a common care infrastructure.
>
> Pirate Care, a syllabus
>
> We live in a world where captains get arrested for saving people?s
> lives on the sea; where a person downloading scientific articles faces
> 35 years in jail; where people risk charges for bringing
> contraceptives to those who otherwise couldn?t get them. Folks are
> getting in trouble for giving food to the poor, medicine to the sick,
> water to the thirsty, shelter to the homeless. And yet our heroines
> care and disobey. They are pirates.
>
> ________________________________
>
> Pirate Care is a research process - primarily based in the
> transnational European space - that maps the increasingly present
> forms of activism at the intersection of ?care? and ?piracy?, which in
> new and interesting ways are trying to intervene in one of the most
> important challenges of our time, that is, the ?crisis of care? in all
> its multiple and interconnected dimensions.
>
> These practices are experimenting with self-organisation, alternative
> approaches to social reproduction and the commoning of tools,
> technologies and knowledges. Often they act disobediently in expressed
> non-compliance with laws, regulations and executive orders that
> criminalise the duty of care by imposing exclusions along the lines of
> class, gender, race or territory. They are not shying risk of
> persecution in providing unconditional solidarity to those who are the
> most exploited, discriminated against and condemned to the status of
> disposable populations.
>
> The Pirate Care Syllabus we present here for the first time is a tool
> for supporting and activating collective processes of learning from
> these practices. We encourage everyone to freely use this syllabus to
> learn and organise processes of learning and to freely adapt, rewrite
> and expand it to reflect their own experience and serve their own
> pedagogies.
>
> 8th March 2020 - Please Note: The Pirate Care Syllabus is still work
> in progress. Some topics and sessions are still under development,
> more will be created during the residency at the Kunsthalle (beginning
> of April) and beyond.
>
> Roger in Dallas, please phone/txt/ +15108532007 if urgent
>
> _______________________________________________
> Yasmin_discussions mailing list
> Yasmin_discussions@ntlab.gr
> http://ntlab.gr/mailman/listinfo/yasmin_discussions_ntlab.gr
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Gary Hall
Professor of Media
Director of the Centre for Postdigital Cultures, Faculty of Arts & Humanities, Coventry University:
http://www.coventry.ac.uk/research/areas-of-research/postdigital-cultures
http://www.garyhall.info
Latest:
Book: A Stubborn Fury: How Writing Works in Elitist Britain:
http://www.openhumanitiespress.org/books/titles/a-stubborn-fury/
Forthcoming:
Chapter: ?Postdigital Politics?, in Cornelia Sollfrank, Shuhsa Niederberger and Felix Stalder, eds, Aesthetics of the Commons:
https://www.diaphanes.com/titel/aesthetics-of-the-commons-6419
------------------------------
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Date: Mon, 1 Feb 2021 02:46:41 +0200
From: YASMIN DISCUSSIONS <yasmin_discussions@ntlab.gr>
To: <yasmin_announcements@ntlab.gr>
Cc: <yasmin_discussions@ntlab.gr>
Subject: [Yasmin_discussions] YASMIN next steps, a new YASMIN
discussion
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Dear YASMINers,
Roger has initiated a new discussion on the future of YASMIN in a very
inspiring manner with some very relevant ideas, followed by Gary Hall,
Aleksandra Dulic, Gregory Garvey, Aviva Rahmani.
YASMIN has been going on since 2005, that is a bit more than 15 years now.
It has been almost entirely based on voluntary work by a team of moderators
and has been hosted in the servers of the National and Kapodistrian
University of Athens for most of this time. We have gone through 3 different
phases and have kept most communications in respective archives.
Recently, we have started discussing about the future of YASMIN, in the very
difficult times that we are going through. Although activity in the
discussions and announcements list has been rather minimal during recent
months, YASMIN still seems relevant to many and indeed it is still very
important to us as a community. For this reason we thought that it is
important to maintain the YASMIN community and to initiate this discussion
about the future of YASMIN with all members of this community.
* What would we like to see YASMIN evolving into in the post-pandemic
era ?
* We started YASMIN as a network of artists, scientists, engineers,
theoreticians and institutions promoting collaboration in art, science and
technology around the Mediterranean Rim and beyond. Is this what we still
want ? How about investigating further the connections "beyond" ?
* What would a relaunched (but sustainable) YASMIN be like ? a mailing
list, a web site, anything else ?
All this may seem a bit too YASMIN-centric, while the whole world is in such
a turmoil. But in this turmoil it seems that communicating through YASMIN is
only positive for many of us and maybe it is something we need to keep and
probably enrich.
Roger's suggestions and Gary's ideas on Pirate philosophy and Pirate Care
seem very relevant to start with. I would suggest that we could continue
this discussion for the following weeks and then possibly organize a live
on-line meeting to finalize the discussion and agree on the future of
YASMIN.
Looking forward to the next steps
Best wishes
Dimitris
************************************
Dimitris Charitos
Associate Professor
Department of Communication and Media Studies
Head of Department of Digital Arts and Cinema
School of Economics and Political Sciences
National and Kapodistrian University of Athens
vedesign [at] otenet [dot] gr
URL: vedesign.gr
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Date: Mon, 1 Feb 2021 01:52:58 +0000
From: YASMIN DISCUSSIONS <yasmin_discussions@ntlab.gr>
To: roger malina <rmalina@alum.mit.edu>,
"yasmin_announcements@ntlab.gr" <yasmin_announcements@ntlab.gr>,
"yasmin_discussions@ntlab.gr" <yasmin_discussions@ntlab.gr>
Subject: Re: [Yasmin_discussions] yasmin phoenix, pirates, phoenicians
and etruscans and and emerging digi-indigenous ingenious natives
Message-ID:
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Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252"
Yasmin Phoenicians!
Among stubborn socio-political/cultural bulwarks in need of being pirated by a certain 21st century progressive onset of activism, the dualist notion of a co-existing natural/supernatural reality to all things looms large. I think huge, actually -- elephant-in-the-room gigantic. Disinformation and alternative truths were not invented by Donald Trump -- they form the mass social-cultural backbone for all of human history -- i.e., an entirely anti-science notion that beneath its physical facade, the Universe is governed by supernatural forces. Not to mention the Earth itself, and in the face of today's advanced science, the muck of a deeply rooted and institutionalized, powerful and enormously wealthy supernatural belief complex among the planet's human animals, coupled with an inability of human scientists themselves to exploit and communicate the liberating non-supernatural spirituality and ontological meaning inherent in their simple search for a truth of things, is like a termite infestation in the woodwork structures of progressive desire for change.
I don't mean religions per se, there are many humanitarian ones or even a God notion whatever that means. It all begins with the stubborn fictional meme from our ancient past of "supernatural," derailing the momentum toward critical paths to our future at the 21st century. The notion of spirit, that being a profoundly emotional connection to existence, needs to be pirated from the falsely omniscious supernatural-based institutions that wield it, robbed from those pretenders and given back to the "natural" (i.e. science) in which it is properly nested, imbued with the rich biological sensations of meaning that evolution has gifted us as a reward for uncovering truth. Art excavating in the terrains of science, can reveal that where the scientists could not.
Stephen Nowlin
________________________________________
From: roger malina <rmalina@alum.mit.edu>
Sent: Thursday, January 28, 2021 12:19 PM
To: yasmin_announcements@ntlab.gr; yasmin_discussions@ntlab.gr
Subject: yasmin phoenix, pirates, phoenicians and etruscans and and emerging digi-indigenous ingenious natives
Yasminers
and in particular Dalila Honorato, Stephen Nowlin and Luca Forcucci
and Gullermo Munoz
Dalila triggered the metaphor of YASMIN PHOENIX for the work we are
starting to have a new different YASMIN rise from the ashes of the
pandemic- let me add that we should think as yasminers as pirates
Immediately it triggered my memory of reading Gary Hall's Pirate
Philosophy https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://mitpress.mit.edu/books/pirate-philosophy__;!!Fh--17vRJmFW!h87pOpvBVOSMBCJEoYBf9xn0QDi5wgjBhCBipq_3iQpbigN8Ir1emxYySevwLtWHNujTwyof$ and his
unpacking the very useful innovation role that pirates played in the
Mediterranean- i have copied this email to him in case he has an
update on how pirate philosophy might be relevant in the post pandemic
digi-indigenous culture that the digi-natives are inventing as we read
the new rituals, customs and behaviours for the post pandemic world
and its increasing virtual reality- and we digital elders stand back
and notice but don't meddle- ok digi-natives take over YASMIN PHOENI
secondly YASMIN moderator Guillermo Munoz co founded the group in
spain called "pirates of science'
https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.piratasdelaciencia.com/blog/quienes-somos/__;!!Fh--17vRJmFW!h87pOpvBVOSMBCJEoYBf9xn0QDi5wgjBhCBipq_3iQpbigN8Ir1emxYySevwLtWHNrQ2xq-4$ so maybe the
pirate metaphor could be helpful as we work on the helping the YASMIN
PHOENIX arise from the ashes with the help of the YASMIN pirates and
phoenicians-- i have copied Guillermo also in case he has some
thoughts too
luca forcucci also suggested: I am all in for the flight, and let's
not forget the Etruscans !
all the best Luca
and stephen nowlin: Roger -- as our nearest star rises seemingly anew
over a political return to some sanity here in the U.S., your news
feels timely and welcomed. Happy to climb aboard the flight of the
YASMIN Phenix!
and
Roger Malina
more on gary hall below:
Gary Hall is a critical theorist and media philosopher working in the
areas of digital culture, politics and technology. He is Professor of
Media at Coventry University, UK, where he directs the Centre for
Postdigital Cultures which brings together media theorists,
practitioners, activists and artists.
He is the author of a number of books, including The Inhumanist
Manifesto (Techne Lab, 2017), Pirate Philosophy (MIT Press, 2016) and
The Uberfication of the University (Minnesota UP, 2016).
How philosophers and theorists can find new models for the creation,
publication, and dissemination of knowledge, challenging the received
ideas of originality, authorship, and the book.
In Pirate Philosophy, Gary Hall considers whether the fight against
the neoliberal corporatization of higher education in fact requires
scholars to transform their own lives and labor. Is there a way for
philosophers and theorists to act not just for or with the
antiausterity and student protestors??graduates without a future??but
in terms of their political struggles? Drawing on such phenomena as
peer-to-peer file sharing and anticopyright/pro-piracy movements, Hall
explores how those in academia can move beyond finding new ways of
thinking about the world to find instead new ways of being theorists
and philosophers in the world.
Hall describes the politics of online sharing, the battles against the
current intellectual property regime, and the actions of Anonymous,
LulzSec, Aaron Swartz, and others, and he explains Creative Commons
and the open access, open source, and free software movements. But in
the heart of the book he considers how, when it comes to scholarly
ways of creating, performing, and sharing knowledge, philosophers and
theorists can challenge not just the neoliberal model of the
entrepreneurial academic but also the traditional humanist model with
its received ideas of proprietorial authorship, the book, originality,
fixity, and the finished object. In other words, can scholars and
students today become something like pirate philosophers?
and the phoenicians:
The Phoenicians came to prominence following the collapse (c. 1150 BC)
of most major cultures during the Late Bronze Age. They were renowned
in antiquity as adept merchants, expert seafarers, and intrepid
explorers.[citation needed] They developed an expansive maritime trade
network that lasted over a millennium, becoming the dominant
commercial power for much of classical antiquity. Phoenician trade
also helped facilitate the exchange of cultures, ideas, and knowledge
between major cradles of civilization such as Greece, Egypt, and
Mesopotamia. After its zenith in the ninth century BC, the Phoenician
civilization in the eastern Mediterranean slowly declined in the face
of foreign influence and conquest, though its presence would remain in
the central and western Mediterranean until the second century BC.
PS words matter: nina czegledy thinks the term 'digi-indigenous' is an
inappropriate appropriation of the values of indigenous cultures
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yasminers
doug hall shared his update on his concept of 'pirate philosophy: from
his 2016 book
hew draws your attention in particular to the links he sent us- and
yes i think Yasmin Phoenicians should read pirate care syllabus and
apply it as appropriate https://syllabus.pirate.care/
thanks Doug, lets pirate on with the post pandemic provocateurs at your heels
roger malina
https://pirate.care/pages/concept/
Pirate Care is a transnational research project and a network of
activists, scholars and practitioners who stand against the
criminalization of solidarity & for a common care infrastructure.
Pirate Care, a syllabus
We live in a world where captains get arrested for saving people?s
lives on the sea; where a person downloading scientific articles faces
35 years in jail; where people risk charges for bringing
contraceptives to those who otherwise couldn?t get them. Folks are
getting in trouble for giving food to the poor, medicine to the sick,
water to the thirsty, shelter to the homeless. And yet our heroines
care and disobey. They are pirates.
________________________________
Pirate Care is a research process - primarily based in the
transnational European space - that maps the increasingly present
forms of activism at the intersection of ?care? and ?piracy?, which in
new and interesting ways are trying to intervene in one of the most
important challenges of our time, that is, the ?crisis of care? in all
its multiple and interconnected dimensions.
These practices are experimenting with self-organisation, alternative
approaches to social reproduction and the commoning of tools,
technologies and knowledges. Often they act disobediently in expressed
non-compliance with laws, regulations and executive orders that
criminalise the duty of care by imposing exclusions along the lines of
class, gender, race or territory. They are not shying risk of
persecution in providing unconditional solidarity to those who are the
most exploited, discriminated against and condemned to the status of
disposable populations.
The Pirate Care Syllabus we present here for the first time is a tool
for supporting and activating collective processes of learning from
these practices. We encourage everyone to freely use this syllabus to
learn and organise processes of learning and to freely adapt, rewrite
and expand it to reflect their own experience and serve their own
pedagogies.
8th March 2020 - Please Note: The Pirate Care Syllabus is still work
in progress. Some topics and sessions are still under development,
more will be created during the residency at the Kunsthalle (beginning
of April) and beyond.
Roger in Dallas, please phone/txt/ +15108532007 if urgent
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yasminers
doug hall shared his update on his concept of 'pirate philosophy: from
his 2016 book
hew draws your attention in particular to the links he sent us- and
yes i think Yasmin Phoenicians should read pirate care syllabus and
apply it as appropriate https://syllabus.pirate.care/
thanks Doug, lets pirate on with the post pandemic provocateurs at your heels
roger malina
https://pirate.care/pages/concept/
Pirate Care is a transnational research project and a network of
activists, scholars and practitioners who stand against the
criminalization of solidarity & for a common care infrastructure.
Pirate Care, a syllabus
We live in a world where captains get arrested for saving people?s
lives on the sea; where a person downloading scientific articles faces
35 years in jail; where people risk charges for bringing
contraceptives to those who otherwise couldn?t get them. Folks are
getting in trouble for giving food to the poor, medicine to the sick,
water to the thirsty, shelter to the homeless. And yet our heroines
care and disobey. They are pirates.
________________________________
Pirate Care is a research process - primarily based in the
transnational European space - that maps the increasingly present
forms of activism at the intersection of ?care? and ?piracy?, which in
new and interesting ways are trying to intervene in one of the most
important challenges of our time, that is, the ?crisis of care? in all
its multiple and interconnected dimensions.
These practices are experimenting with self-organisation, alternative
approaches to social reproduction and the commoning of tools,
technologies and knowledges. Often they act disobediently in expressed
non-compliance with laws, regulations and executive orders that
criminalise the duty of care by imposing exclusions along the lines of
class, gender, race or territory. They are not shying risk of
persecution in providing unconditional solidarity to those who are the
most exploited, discriminated against and condemned to the status of
disposable populations.
The Pirate Care Syllabus we present here for the first time is a tool
for supporting and activating collective processes of learning from
these practices. We encourage everyone to freely use this syllabus to
learn and organise processes of learning and to freely adapt, rewrite
and expand it to reflect their own experience and serve their own
pedagogies.
8th March 2020 - Please Note: The Pirate Care Syllabus is still work
in progress. Some topics and sessions are still under development,
more will be created during the residency at the Kunsthalle (beginning
of April) and beyond.
Roger in Dallas, please phone/txt/ +15108532007 if urgent
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Yasminers
and in particular Dalila Honorato, Stephen Nowlin and Luca Forcucci
and Gullermo Munoz
Dalila triggered the metaphor of YASMIN PHOENIX for the work we are
starting to have a new different YASMIN rise from the ashes of the
pandemic- let me add that we should think as yasminers as pirates
Immediately it triggered my memory of reading Gary Hall's Pirate
Philosophy https://mitpress.mit.edu/books/pirate-philosophy and his
unpacking the very useful innovation role that pirates played in the
Mediterranean- i have copied this email to him in case he has an
update on how pirate philosophy might be relevant in the post pandemic
digi-indigenous culture that the digi-natives are inventing as we read
the new rituals, customs and behaviours for the post pandemic world
and its increasing virtual reality- and we digital elders stand back
and notice but don't meddle- ok digi-natives take over YASMIN PHOENI
secondly YASMIN moderator Guillermo Munoz co founded the group in
spain called "pirates of science'
https://www.piratasdelaciencia.com/blog/quienes-somos/ so maybe the
pirate metaphor could be helpful as we work on the helping the YASMIN
PHOENIX arise from the ashes with the help of the YASMIN pirates and
phoenicians-- i have copied Guillermo also in case he has some
thoughts too
luca forcucci also suggested: I am all in for the flight, and let's
not forget the Etruscans !
all the best Luca
and stephen nowlin: Roger -- as our nearest star rises seemingly anew
over a political return to some sanity here in the U.S., your news
feels timely and welcomed. Happy to climb aboard the flight of the
YASMIN Phenix!
and
Roger Malina
more on gary hall below:
Gary Hall is a critical theorist and media philosopher working in the
areas of digital culture, politics and technology. He is Professor of
Media at Coventry University, UK, where he directs the Centre for
Postdigital Cultures which brings together media theorists,
practitioners, activists and artists.
He is the author of a number of books, including The Inhumanist
Manifesto (Techne Lab, 2017), Pirate Philosophy (MIT Press, 2016) and
The Uberfication of the University (Minnesota UP, 2016).
How philosophers and theorists can find new models for the creation,
publication, and dissemination of knowledge, challenging the received
ideas of originality, authorship, and the book.
In Pirate Philosophy, Gary Hall considers whether the fight against
the neoliberal corporatization of higher education in fact requires
scholars to transform their own lives and labor. Is there a way for
philosophers and theorists to act not just for or with the
antiausterity and student protestors??graduates without a future??but
in terms of their political struggles? Drawing on such phenomena as
peer-to-peer file sharing and anticopyright/pro-piracy movements, Hall
explores how those in academia can move beyond finding new ways of
thinking about the world to find instead new ways of being theorists
and philosophers in the world.
Hall describes the politics of online sharing, the battles against the
current intellectual property regime, and the actions of Anonymous,
LulzSec, Aaron Swartz, and others, and he explains Creative Commons
and the open access, open source, and free software movements. But in
the heart of the book he considers how, when it comes to scholarly
ways of creating, performing, and sharing knowledge, philosophers and
theorists can challenge not just the neoliberal model of the
entrepreneurial academic but also the traditional humanist model with
its received ideas of proprietorial authorship, the book, originality,
fixity, and the finished object. In other words, can scholars and
students today become something like pirate philosophers?
and the phoenicians:
The Phoenicians came to prominence following the collapse (c. 1150 BC)
of most major cultures during the Late Bronze Age. They were renowned
in antiquity as adept merchants, expert seafarers, and intrepid
explorers.[citation needed] They developed an expansive maritime trade
network that lasted over a millennium, becoming the dominant
commercial power for much of classical antiquity. Phoenician trade
also helped facilitate the exchange of cultures, ideas, and knowledge
between major cradles of civilization such as Greece, Egypt, and
Mesopotamia. After its zenith in the ninth century BC, the Phoenician
civilization in the eastern Mediterranean slowly declined in the face
of foreign influence and conquest, though its presence would remain in
the central and western Mediterranean until the second century BC.
PS words matter: nina czegledy thinks the term 'digi-indigenous' is an
inappropriate appropriation of the values of indigenous cultures
Roger in Dallas, please phone/txt/ +15108532007 if urgent
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Yasminers
and in particular Dalila Honorato, Stephen Nowlin and Luca Forcucci
and Gullermo Munoz
Dalila triggered the metaphor of YASMIN PHOENIX for the work we are
starting to have a new different YASMIN rise from the ashes of the
pandemic- let me add that we should think as yasminers as pirates
Immediately it triggered my memory of reading Gary Hall's Pirate
Philosophy https://mitpress.mit.edu/books/pirate-philosophy and his
unpacking the very useful innovation role that pirates played in the
Mediterranean- i have copied this email to him in case he has an
update on how pirate philosophy might be relevant in the post pandemic
digi-indigenous culture that the digi-natives are inventing as we read
the new rituals, customs and behaviours for the post pandemic world
and its increasing virtual reality- and we digital elders stand back
and notice but don't meddle- ok digi-natives take over YASMIN PHOENI
secondly YASMIN moderator Guillermo Munoz co founded the group in
spain called "pirates of science'
https://www.piratasdelaciencia.com/blog/quienes-somos/ so maybe the
pirate metaphor could be helpful as we work on the helping the YASMIN
PHOENIX arise from the ashes with the help of the YASMIN pirates and
phoenicians-- i have copied Guillermo also in case he has some
thoughts too
luca forcucci also suggested: I am all in for the flight, and let's
not forget the Etruscans !
all the best Luca
and stephen nowlin: Roger -- as our nearest star rises seemingly anew
over a political return to some sanity here in the U.S., your news
feels timely and welcomed. Happy to climb aboard the flight of the
YASMIN Phenix!
and
Roger Malina
more on gary hall below:
Gary Hall is a critical theorist and media philosopher working in the
areas of digital culture, politics and technology. He is Professor of
Media at Coventry University, UK, where he directs the Centre for
Postdigital Cultures which brings together media theorists,
practitioners, activists and artists.
He is the author of a number of books, including The Inhumanist
Manifesto (Techne Lab, 2017), Pirate Philosophy (MIT Press, 2016) and
The Uberfication of the University (Minnesota UP, 2016).
How philosophers and theorists can find new models for the creation,
publication, and dissemination of knowledge, challenging the received
ideas of originality, authorship, and the book.
In Pirate Philosophy, Gary Hall considers whether the fight against
the neoliberal corporatization of higher education in fact requires
scholars to transform their own lives and labor. Is there a way for
philosophers and theorists to act not just for or with the
antiausterity and student protestors??graduates without a future??but
in terms of their political struggles? Drawing on such phenomena as
peer-to-peer file sharing and anticopyright/pro-piracy movements, Hall
explores how those in academia can move beyond finding new ways of
thinking about the world to find instead new ways of being theorists
and philosophers in the world.
Hall describes the politics of online sharing, the battles against the
current intellectual property regime, and the actions of Anonymous,
LulzSec, Aaron Swartz, and others, and he explains Creative Commons
and the open access, open source, and free software movements. But in
the heart of the book he considers how, when it comes to scholarly
ways of creating, performing, and sharing knowledge, philosophers and
theorists can challenge not just the neoliberal model of the
entrepreneurial academic but also the traditional humanist model with
its received ideas of proprietorial authorship, the book, originality,
fixity, and the finished object. In other words, can scholars and
students today become something like pirate philosophers?
and the phoenicians:
The Phoenicians came to prominence following the collapse (c. 1150 BC)
of most major cultures during the Late Bronze Age. They were renowned
in antiquity as adept merchants, expert seafarers, and intrepid
explorers.[citation needed] They developed an expansive maritime trade
network that lasted over a millennium, becoming the dominant
commercial power for much of classical antiquity. Phoenician trade
also helped facilitate the exchange of cultures, ideas, and knowledge
between major cradles of civilization such as Greece, Egypt, and
Mesopotamia. After its zenith in the ninth century BC, the Phoenician
civilization in the eastern Mediterranean slowly declined in the face
of foreign influence and conquest, though its presence would remain in
the central and western Mediterranean until the second century BC.
PS words matter: nina czegledy thinks the term 'digi-indigenous' is an
inappropriate appropriation of the values of indigenous cultures
Roger in Dallas, please phone/txt/ +15108532007 if urgent
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Dear Roger,
I am all in for the flight, and let's not forget the Etruscans !
all the best
Luca
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> To: roger malina <rmalina@alum.mit.edu>, "yasmin_discussions@ntlab.gr"
> <yasmin_discussions@ntlab.gr>, "yasmin_announcements@ntlab.gr"
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> Roger -- as our nearest star rises seemingly anew over a political return
> to some sanity here in the U.S., your news feels timely and welcomed. Happy
> to climb aboard the flight of the YASMIN Phenix!
>
> /stephen
>
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> ________________________________________
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> From: Yasmin_announcements <yasmin_announcements-bounces@ntlab.gr> on
> behalf of roger malina <rmalina@alum.mit.edu>
> Sent: Sunday, January 24, 2021 9:09 AM
> To: yasmin_discussions@ntlab.gr; yasmin_announcements@ntlab.gr
> Subject: [Yasmin_announcements] astronomer reports sighting of yasmin
> phenix - help us help it fly
>
> Yasminers
> Yesterday a group of trouble makers and provocateurs met under the
> coordination of Dimitris
> in Athens- and we made a tentative decision to try and re-invent YASMIN
> and see if we can find other ways of contributing slowly emerging
> better ideas to the post pandemic world ( we throw ideas at each
> other, not stones and bombs, just as maturana and varela incited
> auto-poesis in complex systems)
>
> It was a rather emotional meeting-with long e-lost friends including
> andreas, soussi , and new friends such as Dalila and Penny
> In the brainstorming someone (Dalila?) mentioned the Phoenix and
> suddenly we started talking about the YASMIN Phenix- the phenix is a
> legendary mediterranean bird, south bank i think,
>
> So with this email the Yasmin Phoenicians solicit, invite, encourage,
> listen loudly to your thoughts and wishes for the Yasmin Phenix
> arising from the ashes of the pandemic
>
> i just looked up Phenicians and it sees like a good germ of a sead
>
> The Phoenicians came to prominence following the collapse (c. 1150 BC)
> of most major cultures during the Late Bronze Age ( aka 21st
> pandemic). They were renowned in antiquity as adept merchants, expert
> seafarers, and intrepid explorers and came to be known as Yasminers
> They developed an expansive maritime( air and space) trade network
> that lasted over a millennium, becoming the dominant (collaborative)
> commercial power for much of classical antiquity. Phenician trade also
> helped facilitate the exchange of cultures, ideas, and knowledge
> between major cradles of civilization such as Greece, Egypt, and
> Mesopotamia ( the native americans too)- as jadwiga reminds us trade
> routes such as the Amber and Silk roads were not only commercial, drug
> and other goods transmitters- for instance as Linda has explained- the
> design of patterns in cloth and pottery travelled along the trade
> routes- so yasminers- work with yourself and other to give birth to
> the Yasmin Phenix
>
> Roger Malina
> PS the Leonardo non=profit now as a safe space at Arizona State
> University- where apparently there is a town called Phoenix.
> Coincidence ? Serendipity ( david peat ?)
>
>
> phenix ('fi?n?ks ) NOUN
> 1. a legendary Arabian bird said to set fire to itself and rise anew
> from the ashes every 500 years
> 2. a person or thing of surpassing beauty or quality
> Collins English Dictionary. Copyright ? HarperCollins Publishers
> Word origin
> Old English fenix, via Latin from Greek phoinix; identical in form
> with Greek Phoinix Phoenician, purple
> Roger in Dallas, please phone/txt/ +15108532007 if urgent
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Dear Roger,
I am all in for the flight, and let's not forget the Etruscans !
all the best
Luca
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> Roger -- as our nearest star rises seemingly anew over a political return
> to some sanity here in the U.S., your news feels timely and welcomed. Happy
> to climb aboard the flight of the YASMIN Phenix!
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> /stephen
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> Subject: [Yasmin_announcements] astronomer reports sighting of yasmin
> phenix - help us help it fly
>
> Yasminers
> Yesterday a group of trouble makers and provocateurs met under the
> coordination of Dimitris
> in Athens- and we made a tentative decision to try and re-invent YASMIN
> and see if we can find other ways of contributing slowly emerging
> better ideas to the post pandemic world ( we throw ideas at each
> other, not stones and bombs, just as maturana and varela incited
> auto-poesis in complex systems)
>
> It was a rather emotional meeting-with long e-lost friends including
> andreas, soussi , and new friends such as Dalila and Penny
> In the brainstorming someone (Dalila?) mentioned the Phoenix and
> suddenly we started talking about the YASMIN Phenix- the phenix is a
> legendary mediterranean bird, south bank i think,
>
> So with this email the Yasmin Phoenicians solicit, invite, encourage,
> listen loudly to your thoughts and wishes for the Yasmin Phenix
> arising from the ashes of the pandemic
>
> i just looked up Phenicians and it sees like a good germ of a sead
>
> The Phoenicians came to prominence following the collapse (c. 1150 BC)
> of most major cultures during the Late Bronze Age ( aka 21st
> pandemic). They were renowned in antiquity as adept merchants, expert
> seafarers, and intrepid explorers and came to be known as Yasminers
> They developed an expansive maritime( air and space) trade network
> that lasted over a millennium, becoming the dominant (collaborative)
> commercial power for much of classical antiquity. Phenician trade also
> helped facilitate the exchange of cultures, ideas, and knowledge
> between major cradles of civilization such as Greece, Egypt, and
> Mesopotamia ( the native americans too)- as jadwiga reminds us trade
> routes such as the Amber and Silk roads were not only commercial, drug
> and other goods transmitters- for instance as Linda has explained- the
> design of patterns in cloth and pottery travelled along the trade
> routes- so yasminers- work with yourself and other to give birth to
> the Yasmin Phenix
>
> Roger Malina
> PS the Leonardo non=profit now as a safe space at Arizona State
> University- where apparently there is a town called Phoenix.
> Coincidence ? Serendipity ( david peat ?)
>
>
> phenix ('fi?n?ks ) NOUN
> 1. a legendary Arabian bird said to set fire to itself and rise anew
> from the ashes every 500 years
> 2. a person or thing of surpassing beauty or quality
> Collins English Dictionary. Copyright ? HarperCollins Publishers
> Word origin
> Old English fenix, via Latin from Greek phoinix; identical in form
> with Greek Phoinix Phoenician, purple
> Roger in Dallas, please phone/txt/ +15108532007 if urgent
>
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*Luca Forcucci <https://linktr.ee/lucaforcucci>*
*New Albums*
De Rerum Natura
<https://lucaforcucci.bandcamp.com/album/de-rerum-natura>
Released by LFO Editions
<https://lucaforcucci.bandcamp.com/album/de-rerum-natura>
Bodyscape <https://wiseband.lnk.to/Luca-Forucci-Bodyscape>
Released by Elektramusic
<http://elektramusic.eu/album/bodyscape-luca-forcucci/>
*New Paper*
Deep Listening to the Amazon Rainforest through Sonic Architectures
<https://www.mitpressjournals.org/doi/abs/10.1162/lmj_a_01090?mobileUi=0>
*Next events*
*14.10 - 15.02.2021 *
<https://www.museoreinasofia.es/en/exhibitions/audiosphere>
Audiosphere / Sound Experimentation 1980-2020
<https://www.museoreinasofia.es/en/exhibitions/audiosphere>
Museo Reina Sofia / Madrid / Spain *(Exhibition)*
<https://www.museoreinasofia.es/en/exhibitions/audiosphere>
<https://thewrong.org/voices-in-the-ether>
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