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Today's Topics:

1. Re: yasmin phoenix, pirates, phoenicians and etruscans and
and emerging digi-indigenous ingenious natives (YASMIN DISCUSSIONS)


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Date: Mon, 1 Feb 2021 12:35:20 -0600
From: YASMIN DISCUSSIONS <yasmin_discussions@ntlab.gr>
To: yasmin_discussions@ntlab.gr
Cc: roger malina <rmalina@alum.mit.edu>,
"yasmin_announcements@ntlab.gr" <yasmin_announcements@ntlab.gr>
Subject: Re: [Yasmin_discussions] yasmin phoenix, pirates, phoenicians
and etruscans and and emerging digi-indigenous ingenious natives
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Dear All,

I would like to elaborate on the point Stephen raises below: "Art excavating in the terrains of science, can reveal that where the scientists could not?. In a post to the group last April, I asked whether the objective stance we are obliged to take as good scientists may lead to an unintended consequence: Could it be that empirical, hierarchical, dualistic forms of knowledge production reinforce an impression that humans are autonomous entities/outside observers, separate from one another and the biosphere? Rather, might a fundamental sense of situatedness within, instead of outside of or above, an externalized conception of ?nature? lead to more constructive, egalitarian, humanist/post-humanist, solutions?and might creative practitioners ?excavating in the terrains of science? contribute to revealing ?that where scientists [alone] could not"? The virus has powerfully demonstrated the ways in which humanity is interwoven <https://www.instagram.com/p/B-7jgVYF5rN/> with and inseparable from the vast milieu of planetary systems and forces?at the same time it has emphasized the need for sound science and clear science communication.

I ask: C <https://digitalcommons.risd.edu/masterstheses/415/>an dualism be applied when due, while undue dualism is undone? <https://digitalcommons.risd.edu/masterstheses/415/>

I would also like to express appreciation for Roger?s mention of Gary Hall?s pirate philosophy and Guillermo Munoz? Piratas de la Ciencia. Here in the US, Science for the People <https://scienceforthepeople.org/mission/> is doing excellent work to challenge "militarization of scientific research, the corporate control of research agendas, the political implications of sociobiology and other scientific theories, the environmental consequences of energy policy, inequalities in health care, and many other issues.?

Along the lines of pirate philosophy and the concept of mutual aid <https://wagingnonviolence.org/2020/03/coronavirus-mutual-aid-networks-erupt-across-country/>, I would like to add a recommendation to the work of social ecologist/communitarian anarchist philosopher John P. Clark. The Impossible Community, Realizing Communitarian Anarchy <https://truthout.org/articles/the-impossible-community-an-interview-with-john-p-clark-on-grassroots-revolution/> and Anarchy, Geography, Modernity: Selected Writings of Elis?e Reclus <https://blog.pmpress.org/2019/06/11/liberty-equality-geography-an-interview-with-john-p-clark-on-the-revolutionary-eco-anarchism-of-elisee-reclus/>.

In solidarity,
Alyce Santoro
alycesantoro.com <http://www.alycesantoro.com/>




> On Jan 31, 2021, at 7:52 PM, YASMIN DISCUSSIONS <yasmin_discussions@ntlab.gr> wrote:
>
>
> Yasmin Phoenicians!
>
> Among stubborn socio-political/cultural bulwarks in need of being pirated by a certain 21st century progressive onset of activism, the dualist notion of a co-existing natural/supernatural reality to all things looms large. I think huge, actually -- elephant-in-the-room gigantic. Disinformation and alternative truths were not invented by Donald Trump -- they form the mass social-cultural backbone for all of human history -- i.e., an entirely anti-science notion that beneath its physical facade, the Universe is governed by supernatural forces. Not to mention the Earth itself, and in the face of today's advanced science, the muck of a deeply rooted and institutionalized, powerful and enormously wealthy supernatural belief complex among the planet's human animals, coupled with an inability of human scientists themselves to exploit and communicate the liberating non-supernatural spirituality and ontological meaning inherent in their simple search for a truth of things, is like a termite infestation in the woodwork structures of progressive desire for change.
>
> I don't mean religions per se, there are many humanitarian ones or even a God notion whatever that means. It all begins with the stubborn fictional meme from our ancient past of "supernatural," derailing the momentum toward critical paths to our future at the 21st century. The notion of spirit, that being a profoundly emotional connection to existence, needs to be pirated from the falsely omniscious supernatural-based institutions that wield it, robbed from those pretenders and given back to the "natural" (i.e. science) in which it is properly nested, imbued with the rich biological sensations of meaning that evolution has gifted us as a reward for uncovering truth. Art excavating in the terrains of science, can reveal that where the scientists could not.
>
> Stephen Nowlin
>
> ________________________________________
> From: roger malina <rmalina@alum.mit.edu>
> Sent: Thursday, January 28, 2021 12:19 PM
> To: yasmin_announcements@ntlab.gr; yasmin_discussions@ntlab.gr
> Subject: yasmin phoenix, pirates, phoenicians and etruscans and and emerging digi-indigenous ingenious natives
>
> Yasminers
> and in particular Dalila Honorato, Stephen Nowlin and Luca Forcucci
> and Gullermo Munoz
>
> Dalila triggered the metaphor of YASMIN PHOENIX for the work we are
> starting to have a new different YASMIN rise from the ashes of the
> pandemic- let me add that we should think as yasminers as pirates
>
> Immediately it triggered my memory of reading Gary Hall's Pirate
> Philosophy https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://mitpress.mit.edu/books/pirate-philosophy__;!!Fh--17vRJmFW!h87pOpvBVOSMBCJEoYBf9xn0QDi5wgjBhCBipq_3iQpbigN8Ir1emxYySevwLtWHNujTwyof$ and his
> unpacking the very useful innovation role that pirates played in the
> Mediterranean- i have copied this email to him in case he has an
> update on how pirate philosophy might be relevant in the post pandemic
> digi-indigenous culture that the digi-natives are inventing as we read
> the new rituals, customs and behaviours for the post pandemic world
> and its increasing virtual reality- and we digital elders stand back
> and notice but don't meddle- ok digi-natives take over YASMIN PHOENI
>
> secondly YASMIN moderator Guillermo Munoz co founded the group in
> spain called "pirates of science'
> https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.piratasdelaciencia.com/blog/quienes-somos/__;!!Fh--17vRJmFW!h87pOpvBVOSMBCJEoYBf9xn0QDi5wgjBhCBipq_3iQpbigN8Ir1emxYySevwLtWHNrQ2xq-4$ so maybe the
> pirate metaphor could be helpful as we work on the helping the YASMIN
> PHOENIX arise from the ashes with the help of the YASMIN pirates and
> phoenicians-- i have copied Guillermo also in case he has some
> thoughts too
>
> luca forcucci also suggested: I am all in for the flight, and let's
> not forget the Etruscans !
> all the best Luca
>
> and stephen nowlin: Roger -- as our nearest star rises seemingly anew
> over a political return to some sanity here in the U.S., your news
> feels timely and welcomed. Happy to climb aboard the flight of the
> YASMIN Phenix!
>
>
> and
>
> Roger Malina
> more on gary hall below:
> Gary Hall is a critical theorist and media philosopher working in the
> areas of digital culture, politics and technology. He is Professor of
> Media at Coventry University, UK, where he directs the Centre for
> Postdigital Cultures which brings together media theorists,
> practitioners, activists and artists.
>
> He is the author of a number of books, including The Inhumanist
> Manifesto (Techne Lab, 2017), Pirate Philosophy (MIT Press, 2016) and
> The Uberfication of the University (Minnesota UP, 2016).
>
> How philosophers and theorists can find new models for the creation,
> publication, and dissemination of knowledge, challenging the received
> ideas of originality, authorship, and the book.
>
> In Pirate Philosophy, Gary Hall considers whether the fight against
> the neoliberal corporatization of higher education in fact requires
> scholars to transform their own lives and labor. Is there a way for
> philosophers and theorists to act not just for or with the
> antiausterity and student protestors??graduates without a future??but
> in terms of their political struggles? Drawing on such phenomena as
> peer-to-peer file sharing and anticopyright/pro-piracy movements, Hall
> explores how those in academia can move beyond finding new ways of
> thinking about the world to find instead new ways of being theorists
> and philosophers in the world.
>
> Hall describes the politics of online sharing, the battles against the
> current intellectual property regime, and the actions of Anonymous,
> LulzSec, Aaron Swartz, and others, and he explains Creative Commons
> and the open access, open source, and free software movements. But in
> the heart of the book he considers how, when it comes to scholarly
> ways of creating, performing, and sharing knowledge, philosophers and
> theorists can challenge not just the neoliberal model of the
> entrepreneurial academic but also the traditional humanist model with
> its received ideas of proprietorial authorship, the book, originality,
> fixity, and the finished object. In other words, can scholars and
> students today become something like pirate philosophers?
>
> and the phoenicians:
> The Phoenicians came to prominence following the collapse (c. 1150 BC)
> of most major cultures during the Late Bronze Age. They were renowned
> in antiquity as adept merchants, expert seafarers, and intrepid
> explorers.[citation needed] They developed an expansive maritime trade
> network that lasted over a millennium, becoming the dominant
> commercial power for much of classical antiquity. Phoenician trade
> also helped facilitate the exchange of cultures, ideas, and knowledge
> between major cradles of civilization such as Greece, Egypt, and
> Mesopotamia. After its zenith in the ninth century BC, the Phoenician
> civilization in the eastern Mediterranean slowly declined in the face
> of foreign influence and conquest, though its presence would remain in
> the central and western Mediterranean until the second century BC.
>
>
> PS words matter: nina czegledy thinks the term 'digi-indigenous' is an
> inappropriate appropriation of the values of indigenous cultures
>
> Roger in Dallas, please phone/txt/ +15108532007 if urgent
>
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