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1. Re: [Yasmin_announcements] yasmin phoenicians and pirates:
overcoming touch deprivation pharmakon and provokaon
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2. Re: yasmin phoenicians and pirates: overcoming touch
deprivation pharmakon and provokaon (YASMIN DISCUSSIONS)
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Message: 1
Date: Wed, 24 Feb 2021 22:23:01 +0000
From: YASMIN DISCUSSIONS <yasmin_discussions@ntlab.gr>
To: roger malina <rmalina@alum.mit.edu>
Cc: "xDxD.vs.xDxD" <xdxd.vs.xdxd@gmail.com>, Annick Cell Bureaud
<abureaud@gmail.com>, yasmin_discussions@ntlab.gr,
yasmin_announcements@ntlab.gr, nake <nake@uni-bremen.de>
Subject: Re: [Yasmin_discussions] [Yasmin_announcements] yasmin
phoenicians and pirates: overcoming touch deprivation pharmakon and
provokaon
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Meetings in private homes was also important in the 17th century. See the story of the Lunar Men in England, some of whom were barred from Universities because of religious beliefs but many of whom made important advances.
https://www.amazon.com/Lunar-Men-Friends-Curiosity-Changed/dp/0374528888
Ernest
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> On 24 Feb 2021, at 3:42 pm, roger malina <rmalina@alum.mit.edu> wrote:
>
> ?klaus frieder et yasmin pirates and phoenicians
>
> the discussion about 'little research labs' reminds me of the discussions thirty
> years by ago by Hakim Bey
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Temporary_Autonomous_Zone
> advocating Temporary Autonomous Zones
>
> but also three years ago we started an artscience Air B and B in our
> family house in paris, annick bureaud has now been running a series
> of art science residencies there- where there MUST be a mixture of guests
> from different disciplines staying at the air b and b at teh same time
>
> private homes are where 19th century salons gathered proust and picasso
> and carl jung -universities are great-lots of heat and internet- but the kind
> of discussions that can go on in TAZ air b and b culture are really i think
> more generative of desirable outputs
>
> roger malina
>
>
> Roger in Dallas, please phone/txt/ +15108532007 if urgent
>
>
>> On Mon, Feb 15, 2021 at 2:18 AM xDxD.vs.xDxD <xdxd.vs.xdxd@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> Dear Frieder
>>>
>>> I am afraid, that takes away a lot from the situation of the little research center.
>>
>> it's really a choice. And it has its pros and cons. In a small organisation you have more freedom and agility, and you don't necessarily have to adhere to the rankings and mad quantities (for example of students and publications each year). You have a say in what you choose to do.
>> On the other hand there's more risk involved, and you have to be really active: there's no big organization that will back you up, or to provide the prestige or reputation. You will always be the odd one, or the one who really has to fight to get the point across.
>> But there's space for everyone. If the Internet taught us anything is that there is space both for Amazon and for niche boutiques. That is if boutiques manage to generate narratives and imaginaries that allow people to find them.
>>
>> Me and my wife abandoned universities like 6 years ago, and opened this "little research center".
>> Even if we're really small (there's 15 of us, plus several people who go back and forth) we partner with other larger universities and organizations, we work with the EU Commissions and governments etc: we do all the things which other research centers do. But being smaller, we can discuss and choose.
>>
>> We publish. We have institutional and strategic communication.
>> We have students, internships, masters. Many times, we hire (or work with) the people we taught something to.
>>
>> Soon, we will have an hotel, where we will live (some permanently, some temporarily), research, experiment, teach, learn, eat, invite, leave from, arrive at, etc
>>
>> In a way, we're more similar to what Donna Haraway would call a new type of kinship. Which is a nice thing to explore as a research center.
>>
>> And we have a model for it (we're completing the documentation right now (for now there's this: https://drive.google.com/file/d/1YUwoq5yLXcHlC5YBelflJQhUZ0cvsU49/view?usp=sharing ), so that it's also replicable, evolvable etc
>>
>> This is also a nice thing to explore on Yasmin: how to organize ourselves. Hope you explore with us!
>>
>> kind wishes
>> Salvatore
>>
>> (note: what address should we use in the Yasmin-phoenix transition? I saw that it is currently defaulting to forwarding to both addresses, as well to personal addresses. I will do this last one like this, and maybe from the next one I will only use the discussions address?)
>>
>> --
>> Art is Open Source - http://www.artisopensource.net
>> Human Ecosystems Relazioni - https://www.he-r.it/
>> Ubiquitous Commons - http://www.ubiquitouscommons.org
>
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Date: Tue, 16 Feb 2021 15:46:06 -0600
From: YASMIN DISCUSSIONS <yasmin_discussions@ntlab.gr>
To: "xDxD.vs.xDxD" <xdxd.vs.xdxd@gmail.com>, Annick Cell Bureaud
<abureaud@gmail.com>
Cc: nake <nake@uni-bremen.de>, Ranwa Yehia
<ranwayehia@googlemail.com>, yasmin_announcements@ntlab.gr,
yasmin_discussions@ntlab.gr
Subject: Re: [Yasmin_discussions] yasmin phoenicians and pirates:
overcoming touch deprivation pharmakon and provokaon
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klaus frieder et yasmin pirates and phoenicians
the discussion about 'little research labs' reminds me of the discussions thirty
years by ago by Hakim Bey
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Temporary_Autonomous_Zone
advocating Temporary Autonomous Zones
but also three years ago we started an artscience Air B and B in our
family house in paris, annick bureaud has now been running a series
of art science residencies there- where there MUST be a mixture of guests
from different disciplines staying at the air b and b at teh same time
private homes are where 19th century salons gathered proust and picasso
and carl jung -universities are great-lots of heat and internet- but the kind
of discussions that can go on in TAZ air b and b culture are really i think
more generative of desirable outputs
roger malina
Roger in Dallas, please phone/txt/ +15108532007 if urgent
On Mon, Feb 15, 2021 at 2:18 AM xDxD.vs.xDxD <xdxd.vs.xdxd@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Dear Frieder
>>
>> I am afraid, that takes away a lot from the situation of the little research center.
>
> it's really a choice. And it has its pros and cons. In a small organisation you have more freedom and agility, and you don't necessarily have to adhere to the rankings and mad quantities (for example of students and publications each year). You have a say in what you choose to do.
> On the other hand there's more risk involved, and you have to be really active: there's no big organization that will back you up, or to provide the prestige or reputation. You will always be the odd one, or the one who really has to fight to get the point across.
> But there's space for everyone. If the Internet taught us anything is that there is space both for Amazon and for niche boutiques. That is if boutiques manage to generate narratives and imaginaries that allow people to find them.
>
> Me and my wife abandoned universities like 6 years ago, and opened this "little research center".
> Even if we're really small (there's 15 of us, plus several people who go back and forth) we partner with other larger universities and organizations, we work with the EU Commissions and governments etc: we do all the things which other research centers do. But being smaller, we can discuss and choose.
>
> We publish. We have institutional and strategic communication.
> We have students, internships, masters. Many times, we hire (or work with) the people we taught something to.
>
> Soon, we will have an hotel, where we will live (some permanently, some temporarily), research, experiment, teach, learn, eat, invite, leave from, arrive at, etc
>
> In a way, we're more similar to what Donna Haraway would call a new type of kinship. Which is a nice thing to explore as a research center.
>
> And we have a model for it (we're completing the documentation right now (for now there's this: https://drive.google.com/file/d/1YUwoq5yLXcHlC5YBelflJQhUZ0cvsU49/view?usp=sharing ), so that it's also replicable, evolvable etc
>
> This is also a nice thing to explore on Yasmin: how to organize ourselves. Hope you explore with us!
>
> kind wishes
> Salvatore
>
> (note: what address should we use in the Yasmin-phoenix transition? I saw that it is currently defaulting to forwarding to both addresses, as well to personal addresses. I will do this last one like this, and maybe from the next one I will only use the discussions address?)
>
> --
> Art is Open Source - http://www.artisopensource.net
> Human Ecosystems Relazioni - https://www.he-r.it/
> Ubiquitous Commons - http://www.ubiquitouscommons.org
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