Clarissa
Thanks for your comment arguing for the needs for "hybrids"
you say: I can say that the best
> partners in my adventure were the hybrids – sort of 'imaginary beings' with
> several possible heads, like hydras – artists-scientists,
> philosophers-technicians, scientists-philosophers, architects-artists,
> artist-philosophers-scientists-architects, and so on… we are free to mix
> and shake.
I have recently read Allen Repko's books , notably
his Interdisciplinary Research: Process and Theory
http://www.amazon.com/Interdisciplinary-Research-Allen-F-Repko/dp/1412959152
Where he elaborates the various modes of collaboration including the role of
what you call "hybrids"
also of interest are the recent studies by Robert Root Bernstein where
he documents
how a very large fraction of succesful scientists and engineers have
major avocations
= often in the arts= which they view not as a waste of time but
fundamental to their
practice of science or engineering;
see his text on how the arts foster scientific success
http://www.ippsr.msu.edu/ppie/Presentations/Successes.pdf
So I guess my question for you= how to we enable more people
to become succesful hybrids ?
Roger
On Wed, Jul 4, 2012 at 5:31 PM, Clarissa Ribeiro
<almeida.clarissa@gmail.com> wrote:
> Dear Roger and YASMINERS,
>
> (for now, the topic inspired me to write a short reflection... ) //
> <sharing/>:
>
> *The extremes of doubting*
>
> Despite the 'doubting principia', taking it from the Descartes iconic point
> of view and not only, is the very essence of science and philosophy, most
> of us recurrently, and mostly for a matter of feeling safe and secure – a
> need for precision and prove, do take science's (and technology's)
> published discoveries and rules and theories as 'the ultimate instantaneous
> truth'. Truth can make something smells, look, behave like it is 'real';
> Truth and precision can make something like all the most diverse artistic
> manifestations seems valid, valuable, good, smartest, REAL. Nevertheless,
> Art is the realm from where we can play with precision. As artists we can
> run doubting spirals following the laws of chaos and the chance. Can we do
> the same as scientists? Philosophers? Designers? Technicians? We can say
> that Art is the place were we can experience and brake the ultimate laws of
> quantum physics and chemistry; the ultimate discourse in Philosophy from
> appropriating it as sort of 'cultural toys' and digesting it. The point is:
> how can the scientist and technicians and philosophers and… helping the
> artists in their moving of breaking the never-ending produced blocks of
> precision and truth not by trying to built another 'better block' but by
> playing with it? How can they learn how to dance the dance of doubt all
> together? For sure it is not by believing they can leave their discipline
> jails for a while, just to play, and comfortably come back when the party
> is finished. It is a matter of believing that there are no jails and to
> experience reaching the extremes of doubting. Acting during the last decade
> as something in-between an architect, a theorist and an artist, my effort
> was to venture the complexity sciences and thought realms to observe the
> crossing contaminations with art and architecture. I can say that the best
> partners in my adventure were the hybrids – sort of 'imaginary beings' with
> several possible heads, like hydras – artists-scientists,
> philosophers-technicians, scientists-philosophers, architects-artists,
> artist-philosophers-scientists-architects, and so on… we are free to mix
> and shake.
>
>
> Kind regards,
>
> Clarissa Ribeiro
>
>
>
> 2012/7/4 roger malina <rmalina@alum.mit.edu>
>
>> Dear YASMINERS
>>
>> I am proposing that on YASMIN DISCUSSION LIST we have some discussions
>> on the problems that we face when we try to establish collaboration between
>> science/engineering with arts/design/humanities= with recommendations on
>> how
>> to overcome these problems. But also how to take advantage of the new
>> opportunities.
>>
>> This is part of a project that a network of us have been developing ,
>> SEAD, and will result in a report next summer 2013. Many reports have
>> already been
>> written and we will also be doing a meta-analysis of previous reports.
>> We are working
>> on a compilation of previous reports which you will find on our web site.
>>
>> http://sead.viz.tamu.edu/projects/white_papers.html
>>
>> Beyond the discussion on YASMIN, we would be delighted if any YASMINERS
>> would like to develop what we are calling a white paper- this is a
>> document (or
>> can be a video) which identifies problems and opportunities with specific
>> recommendations on how to enable the solutions. I provide more details
>> below
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>> Roger Malina
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>>
>> All of us encounter many roadblocks to develop
>> the new opportunities that link science/engineering to
>> arts/design/humanities
>>
>> In this international initiative we are calling for 'white papers' or
>> short texts that identify problems
>> and opportunities when one tries to have science/engineering professionals
>> collaborate with those in arts/humanities/design.
>>
>> These reports can be very short- one page with one recommendation, or
>> even utube videos- or longer, They can be written by one person or many.
>>
>> We are also compiling all the reports written on these issues in the last
>> twenty years and will be doing a meta-analysis of the previous
>> recommendations.
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>> We would be delighted if anyone on YASMIN would like to submit a short or
>> longer white paper with recommendations. Please contact me at rmalina
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>>
>> More details below
>> Roger Malina
>>
>>
>>
>> SEAD Network for Sciences, Engineering, Arts and Design announces a
>> call for White Papers on issues facing the international community
>> seeking to enhance transdisciplinary collaboration
>>
>> We are seeking to survey concerns, roadblocks and opportunities, and
>> solicit recommendations for enhancing collaboration between sciences
>> and engineering with practioners in arts and design. These position
>> papers will be submitted as part of a report to US National Science
>> Foundation and the community
>> from the SEAD network in the summer of 2013. With grateful
>> appreciation for US funding, we recognize that activity connecting the
>> sciences, engineering, to arts, and design is international and,
>> furthermore, that global involvements are essential in today's
>> economy. Therefore we are interested both in what US collaborators can
>> learn from experiences in other countries, and vice versa, institution
>> or region specific issues, and also in how to foster collaborations
>> that bridge beyond regions . Cultural cross-fertilization
>> via the SEAD network – whether from disciplinary, organizational or
>> ethnic perspectives – is a vital component of our purpose and goals.
>>
>> Chair, Roger Malina, Leonardo/ISAST Chair Emeritus, Leonardo Governing
>> Board Member. Distinguished Professor of Art and Technology at the
>> University of Texas, Dallas
>>
>> Co-Chair, Carol Strohecker, Director, Center for Design Innovation,
>> University of North Carolina system; Professor, Winston-Salem State
>> University; Chief Research Officer & Instructor, UNC School of the
>> Arts; SEAD Co-PI
>>
>> For more information:
>>
>> http://sead.viz.tamu.edu/projects/white_papers.html
>>
>> This material is based upon work supported by the National Science
>> Foundation under Grant No.1142510 , IS, Human Centered Computing,
>> "Collaborative Research: EAGER: Network for Science, Engineering, Arts
>> and Design (NSEAD)
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