Wednesday, November 6, 2019

Yasmin_discussions Digest, Vol 17, Issue 2

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THIS IS THE YASMIN-DISCUSSIONS DIGEST


Today's Topics:

1. WWWWASP Discussion (YASMIN DISCUSSIONS)
2. wwwasp discussion; roger malina replies to cris feemantle
(YASMIN DISCUSSIONS)


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Date: Tue, 5 Nov 2019 10:53:33 +0000
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Subject: [Yasmin_discussions] WWWWASP Discussion
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>From Scotland
In relation to the 'silos' issue but from a 'micro' perspective of starting
a collaboration.

Even in starting a collaboration between three artists, dislocation can be
very important. I was the Director of the hosting arts organisation for
three artists who collaborated together and with a quarry company on the
project Place of Origin - a 'landscape as art' project on the rim of Kemnay
Quarry, Aberdeenshire
http://www.kemnay.info/community/places-of-interest/place-of-origin/?LMCL=cO4y8I
. The artists met for the first time at Aberdeen Airport - 15 miles from
the 'site'. It took 3 days to get to the site - at the suggestion of the
lead artist we went via Clava Cairns near Inverness, on to Ullapool and by
ferry to the Isle of Lewis, back to the mainland and down the Great Glen,
back to Kemnay. By the end of this, the three artists had a shared visual
language. They came to the site with an ongoing conversation of shared
interests.
More recently in working as Producer on Nil by Mouth: Art Science
Collaboration focused by Food and Sustainability,
https://www.creativecarbonscotland.com/resource/cultureshift-nil-mouth-culture-sustainable-food-production/
we used institutional meeting rooms, but we also 'retreated' to a farmhouse
in Strathdon and later another farmhouse outside Edinburgh. Being outside
the institutional setting (with no powerpoints) deepened the conversation.
Nil by Mouth was in fact a three way partnership because the artists both
engaged with scientists at Research Institutes and also with farmers
(organic, mainstream, crofting and allotment). This latter triple helix
broke down the dangerous binary of art science and also broke out of the
abstraction of 'disciplines'.
Chris


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Chris Fremantle
Research Fellow and Lecturer in Contemporary Art Practice
Gray's School of Art
Robert Gordon University

c.fremantle@rgu.ac.uk / chris@fremantle.org
+44 (0) 7714 203016

https://orcid.org/0000-0002-5818-8208
http://ecoartscotland.net
http://chris.fremantle.org
https://www.creativecarbonscotland.com/resources/library/


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Date: Tue, 5 Nov 2019 16:43:47 -0600
From: YASMIN DISCUSSIONS <yasmin_discussions@ntlab.gr>
To: yasmin_discussions@ntlab.gr
Subject: [Yasmin_discussions] wwwasp discussion; roger malina replies
to cris feemantle
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colleagues
this is roger malina taking over from guillermo munoz the role
of moderator for the coming week

let me thank cris fremantle for his intervention:

More recently in working as Producer on Nil by Mouth: Art Science
Collaboration focused by Food and Sustainability,
https://www.creativecarbonscotland.com/resource/cultureshift-nil-mouth-culture-sustainable-food-production/
we used institutional meeting rooms, but we also 'retreated' to a farmhouse
in Strathdon and later another farmhouse outside Edinburgh. Being outside
the institutional setting (with no powerpoints) deepened the conversation.

Indeed let me add to this point about the many 'asymmetries' in art
science collaborations that can
create problems
this case mentioned by Cris the 'context' of the collaboration can
bias/cause frictoion
eg often scientists have full time appointment at universities and the
artists are 'visitors'-or
have unequal access to facilities ( in university scientists have
research labs where meetings
can be held, but most of our art professors have home studios and just
an office on campus.

the asymmetry of working context can subliminally induce a 'hierarchy"
that can bias the
collaboration

if future emails i would like to bring up additional asymettries ( eg
differences IP cultures)


Roger is in Dallas
whatsapp, eechat , messenger+1-510-853-2007 and +33680459447 in
europe.This email address for leonardo related work,
rmalina@alum.mit.edu use roger.malina@utdallas.edu for UTD work



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