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1. WWWWASP Disussion - Reply to Annick Bureaud (YASMIN DISCUSSIONS)
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Subject: [Yasmin_discussions] WWWWASP Disussion - Reply to Annick
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Dear Yasminers,
I think we are starting to heat up our discussion, with many interesting
points. Here I would like to focus an answer to some of the important
questions that Annick sent.
In the context of education in Art/Sci, Annick asked:
"What would we teach if we were teaching art-science? A methodology?"
I think here, and again, this depends so much on the micro-negociations
that we are actively building. However, these could complement the
institutional arrangements.
For example, and here Salom? Cuesta could help me to explain it in detail,
in Valencia, and inside an official Arts Master degree, it is included an
Art/Sci subject. Salome is leading the subject from several years ago, and
this is not focused to any particular action-example. In her first
introductory post she included a link to a time-line used in this subject.
Here I include it again, as I think it is important for this debate:
http://personales.upv.es/sacuesta/timeline/arteyciencia_avm.html
I m not sure if through this kind of subject is taught a methodology. May
be it is more related to a narrative. So, what are the links between us?
But this could be done not only with examples (bioart, nanoart, ...). It is
possible to include some conceptual ideas, which in many cases are used in
different fields, but with different approaches. I guess conceptual
narrative, and hence, philosophy, is an important context in these
educational programs.
At the same time, she invites scientists to participate in her lectures. I
ve been participating some years in the past, and the idea was just to
confront the art students with a science narration. Not to understand any
specific or particular field, not to popularize any detailed concept, just
to have access to a real science vocabulary. In my case I just pick up a
talk from a science workshop and then we circulated around the slides. This
was not helpful to understand the science behind, but was interesting to
activate questions about the technology, the methodology, the experiments,
the procedures, and even the challenges in a real daily science action. I
guess that this can be similar to an artists residence in a science lab,
but inside an educational and institutional space. So, not by a residence
award or selection, and just as a general educational program. And hence,
it is more related to who is accessing to these actions.
Following Annick questions:
"Why do we so much want that something like an artscience field comes into
being? an artscience discipline? Why do we want those creations to be in
universities ? Why
do we want to "institutionalize" everything?"
I think my answer goes in your answer direction: " to get the damn funding
'cause if
you don't wear a label and fit into a box it's kinda hard to get the
coins? ".
In my point of view, and as a personal experience, institutional art/sci
give me the possibility to include more context to my research. In my daily
work I do not have easy access to this kind of interactions. If we can
institutionalize these actions, it will be easier, more direct, and fluent
the inclusion of these activities. In another hand, the access to funding
will be larger and easier, and then we can do more and bigger actions.
Of course, we can still do it by the micro-action-negotiation way, which
requires extra time (is not included in our job tasks), is not recognized
as part of your job, and then the "two lives approach" is needed. But at
the same time is not recognized as research or is not even valued at all.
All we strongly support that these activities enhance the value of the
research (artistic or scientific), and hence we do need open the ways to
put in action these values. Maybe conferences, maybe exhibitions, maybe
papers, or residences, but all these needs support from institutions, and
not always money.
To finalize, I would like to explain a possible exchange between
micro-negotiations and institutional actions. As a science researcher, very
interested in the art/sci exchanges, the opening of the H2020 Featart FEAT
and STARTS institutional programs are of great help. I know that these
budgets are really small if we compare them with the general research
budgets, but as a scientist these opened to me the possibility to include a
real and institutional framework for these actions. For example, in my last
national science project, I included a section for an artist residence in a
science lab, and for a scientist residence in an art lab, and the inclusion
of this activity was justified by the European policies included in these
two H2020 projects. So, finally the project is accepted, and inside it is
included an small budget for this artist and scientist in residence. This
is for sure a micro-action, as it is just contextualized in a single and
personal project, but it is "helped" by the institutional "sensitivity".
Best wishes,
Guillermo.
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