Sunday, October 31, 2010

Re: [Yasmin_discussions] [Yasmin_an] Your moderator this week.

Hi Roger.
That would be a great idea. And Ibecame curious about the Leonardo
book, so I'm going to check it.
Vítor

Citando roger malina <rmalina@alum.mit.edu>:

> Nicolas
>
> I have delighted to learn of the work of your grandfather the cuban
> poet Nicolas Guillen and then Vitor sent us a poem from scientist
> and poet antonio gedeao
>
> For a number of years Leonardo editor Robert Root Bernstein
> has been editing a leonardo section called "Art-Science: The
> essential connection" document the work of people with dual
> careers as artists and scientists
>
> there have been a number of scientists who have written
> poetry and poets who have made scienitific discoveries
>
> a google on "science and poetry" shows a lot of activity
>
> in general poetry is not much discussed in art/science/technology
> in this list or indeed in the usual festivals
>
> Leonardo published a book called New Media Poetics
> http://leonardo.info/isast/leobooks/books/swissmorris.html
>
> which looks at some of the innovative ways that poetry
> is now developing on the web and elsewhere
>
> perhaps we can have a YASMIN discussion on
> poetry/science/technology= with all the problems of
> language that this raises !
>
> if you are interesting in working on organising a yasmin
> discussion on this topic contact me at rmalina@alum.mit.edu
>
> roger
>
>
>
>
> Vítor Reia-Baptista <vreia@ualg.pt>
>
> Indeed, really great, for the presence of the magnificent Nicolás
> Guillen and of the spanish language in this list. Thank you.
> So I will send here another contribute in this direction:
> The poem «Lágrima de Preta» of the Portuguese Scientist (Chemistry and
> History of Science), Poet and Educator, Prof. António Gedeão
> (1906-1997).
>
> 2010/10/26 Nicolás <nicolas@comuh.uh.cu>:
>> Dear Nina, I usually received your announcements. Reading about the
>> exhibition "Nobody´s  Property" It came to me a poem of my grandfather
>> Nicolás Guillén, considered Cuba´s national poet, titled "¿Puedes?" In
>> English Can you?".
>> I´m sending you the poem. If interested I can look for a translation of this
>> poem.
>> I´m a mathematician, really interested in the connections between arts and
>> science. I´m also the president of the Nicolas Guillén Foundation.
>>
>> Best regards
>>
>> Nicolás Hernández Guillén
>>
>> ¿PUEDES?
>>
>>
>> ¿Puedes venderme el aire que pasa entre tus dedos
>> y te golpea la cara y te despeina?
>> ¿Tal vez podrías venderme cinco pesos de viento,
>> o más, quizás venderme una tormenta?
>> ¿Acaso el aire fino
>> me venderías, el aire
>> (no todo) que recorre
>> en tu jardín corolas y corolas,
>> en tu jardín para los pájaros,
>> diez pesos de aire fino?
>>
>> El aire gira y pasa
>> en una mariposa.
>> Nadie lo tiene, nadie.
>>
>> ¿Puedes venderme cielo,
>> el cielo azul a veces,
>> o gris también a veces,
>> una parcela de tu cielo,
>> el que compraste, piensas tú, con los árboles
>> de tu huerto, como quien compra el techo con la casa?
>> ¿Puedes venderme un dólar
>> de cielo, dos kilómetros
>> de cielo, un trozo, el que tú puedas,
>> de tu cielo?
>>
>> El cielo está en las nubes.
>> Altas las nubes pasan.
>> Nadie las tiene, nadie.
>>
>> ¿Puedes venderme lluvia, el agua
>> que te ha dado tus lágrimas y te moja la lengua?
>> ¿Puedes venderme un dólar de agua
>> de manantial, una nube preñada,
>> crespa y suave como una cordera,
>> o bien agua llovida en la montaña,
>> o el agua de los charcos
>> abandonados a los perros,
>> o una legua de mar, tal vez un lago,
>> cien dólares de lago?
>>
>> El agua cae, rueda.
>> El agua rueda, pasa.
>> Nadie la tiene, nadie.
>>
>> ¿Puedes venderme tierra, la profunda
>> noche de las raíces; dientes
>> de dinosaurios y la cal
>> dispersa de lejanos esqueletos?
>> ¿Puedes venderme selvas ya sepultadas, aves muertas,
>> peces de piedra, azufre
>> de los volcanes, mil millones de años
>> en espiral subiendo? ¿Puedes
>> venderme tierra, puedes
>> venderme tierra, puedes?
>>
>>
>> La tierra tuya es mía.
>> Todos los pies la pisan.
>> Nadie la tiene, nadie.
>>
>> Nicolás Guillén, 1960
>>
>>
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Tuesday, October 26, 2010

Re: [Yasmin_discussions] Hybrid Space - Hybrid Cities discussion

Dear all

Eric thank you very much for your email, your input and for joining our list!
Your points are very interesting and I would like to explain that last two
paragraphs of mine that you are quoting did not aim in any way to doubt
your perspective but on the contrary to summarise some questions on
today's "gaze" and its formation, close to the ones that you are
approaching. I ll try to go a bit deeper to some of my points.

Surely there is no "all"; some of the main questions of nowadays still are
around aspects of inclusion and exclusion like: "Access for whom?" Or
"Whose city?" And the next important questions that would appear for
database cities I think would be: "Whose interface?" on one hand and
"Whose data?" on the other.

I believe that the contemporary metropolies have a lot in common with the
web itself. They are factories of knowledge, of experience, of a common
wealth that is being built by its users – inhabitants (again, those who
have the possibilities to take part). They are both places where the
"artificial common" (the common that resides in languages, images,
knowledges, affects, codes, habits and practices, as Negri and Hardt say)
is produced. And I do find that accordingly the same issues that we are
asked to face on the internet are now slowly moving to the cityscape.
Accessibility, privacy, control, appropriation…

Through the Google platforms and through various mobile applications we
are given opportunities to share, to connect, to enjoy the city just like
we do in the social platforms. The map of the city is being personalized,
modified and shared just like our facebook pages. We navigate in real
cities through the google street view just like we navigate in Second
Life (well almost...:)) But who is creating this context and who controls
it?

A very interesting critical project on this direction, commenting on the
images of the world through google is the google street views of Jon
Rafman
http://www.artfagcity.com/2009/08/12/img-mgmt-the-nine-eyes-of-google-street-view/

Rafman collecting images from google street views, documents google eyes'
transparency and a city whose inhabitants' tactics are now being captured.
Some of them welcome it, some hate it, some play with it.

So in a situation where as you write "the spectator does not want to be
told precisely how the connection with the city takes place" , where
unavoidably we have moved to the "cryptopticon" model as Olga very
interestingly also comments, giving us Vaidhyanathan's perspective… ,
approaches like the one of Rafman bring to the foreground the possibility
of still "playing against the apparatus", as Flusser once wrote.

Kind regards
daphne


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Monday, October 25, 2010

Re: [Yasmin_discussions] Hybrid Space - Hybrid Cities discussion

I am new to this list, and I am quite enjoying the conversation taking place here. I noticed that there has been some discussion of my book and I wanted to chime in with something of a clarification. Daphne writes this about my perspective:

"Gordon furthermore explains that we enjoy the database cities for the same
reason that we like Google itself and we dont mind it having access to our
personal's search histories. Because there is a suggested transparency: even
if the same information is shared with marketers, we believe we are in
control of our data and we feel safe.

The potentialities given by the geographical oriented visual search engines
today are surely exciting. But are we really granted access and control
because we think that we can modify and personalise the urban environment?
Can a new image of the city be shaped by all users - habitants?

I think there is an interesting misunderstanding here , when believing or
hoping that we are mostly going from the public towards the common when we
are still in the stage of semi-private or semi-public exercising control.
Something Molly also mentioned from another perspective."

But I don't believe that a new image of the city can be shaped by all users. I do believe, however, that cities often present themselves to users as if this was true. The premise of my book is that there is a long history of urban manifestations that assume an active consumer. This, of course, is not the case for all users, but it is the case that it has been a dominant rhetorical strategy, especially in the United States. I don't believe that participatory urbanism is a given simply because many have access to "participatory technologies." Simply because there is a data layer that rests atop urban spaces does not mean everyone can access it, or that it necessarily makes spaces more democratic even for those who can access it. But, as networks become more pervasive, their ability to communicate completeness grows significantly. Correspondingly, as they communicate completeness, they are much more efficient in excluding non-users. For example, after one completes a go!
ogle search, it is not likely that they will consult the yellow pages because they are not satisfied with the results. The more complete networks appear, the more inaccessible those those things outside of the network become.

While the argument in my book is optimistic in that it assumes the networked urban landscape is malleable, it in no way assumes that simply through the market forces guiding technology that cities have become more just, or more accessible than has been the case historically. In fact, as I mentioned above, the appearance of totality in networks can actually work to chip away at access and accessibility.

best,

Eric


Eric Gordon, Ph.D.
Associate Professor of New Media
Director of Engagement Game Lab
Department of Visual and Media Arts
Emerson College
120 Boylston Street
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Re: [Yasmin_discussions] Hybrid Space - Hybrid Cities discussion

Hello everybody, I am following this conversation since July but I never had the
chance to step into. These are a few comments regarding some points that were
raised and I conclude with some questions and thoughts.


With regards to the issue raised about control, and Daphne's observations about
Google and Gordon's book, I would like to add some comments that Siva
Vaidhyanathan made in his lecture, "The Googlization of the Global Street" that
took place 3 days ago in A'dam.


He mentioned amongst other things, the notion of "choice architecture" which has
a great influence in what choice people make in the end. He argued that in the
Google era it is not about cultural imperialism (what clothes to wear, what
music to hear, what movie to see) but about the protocol imperialism, that is,
how to do things. In that sense, he asserted that control has shifted from a
panopticon model to a "Cryptopticon" one. We don't see or understand the
surveillance tool and that is how it becomes more powerful. The new surveillance
tools are not trying to confront one to the realm but to track his/her
idiosyncrasy. His assertion of the Cryptopticon seems to be aligned with what
Gordon observes "the spectator wants to reconnect with the city, but doesn't
want to be told precisely how that connection is to take place".

As far as urban space is concerned, and the merging with digital information and
data, I also believe that this merging can be noticed in the ways that we have
started to navigate the city in relation and in accordance to our Internet
navigation. Google maps, Skype and Twitter make the first example. People walk
in the street using Google maps to orient themselves (and I am for sure one of
them), make free calls or video calls with Skype or make a twitter entry with
their mobile phones when they want to share something or to retrieve
information. In Amsterdam for example, a fellow student was recently describing
to us how he was stuck in a traffic jam and he wanted to know why. By entering
the world "police" in the twitter search he found out that a shooting had just
taken place and that police were investigating the scene. With these examples I
want to stress the importance of these small changes, tweaks and spins that
define the hybridization of space in an incremental way. And this changes are,
until now, defined mostly by marketing apps, services and iphones! Indeed, I
cannot access the info that GVB (public transport) provides to mobile users
because I have a windows mobile and not an iphone!

Including RFID and intelligent tagging - and I would like to add near-field
communication (NFC),- emergent technologies will eventually create the bridges
between physical and virtual, making urban hybrid environments a de facto
everyday experience as Martin Rieser pointed out.


"The world has become the web" ?

There is an upcoming conference (November 26) in Eindhoven that will address
these questions:
What if everything is connected to everything?
What if trees, lighting and shop windows become social media?
What does art look like in a 'cloud culture'?

STRP Conference, E-SPHERE: LIVING IN THE CLOUD

That is why I think we should come back and look into the design process of new
technologies and the architecture or protocol of the Internet. While the
spatial, material world, is being augmented , human interaction and the
social-communicational aspects of this world are being represented, processed
and structured in new ways. Through the process of highlighted news, with the
proliferation of aggregators, analytics, bookmarking, ratings and the notion of
"the most popular" site, blog, tweet do we lose our autonomy to choose what is
of our interest? with whom we will interact ? and how do the opinions and
suggestions of others affect and form our own? Does this immense structure
constrain our linking and browsing tactics? Are these constraints also extended
to our physical navigation-movement in space and frame our interactions and the
way those are triggered?

Is that structure the "gaze" that assembles the image of the world?

By the way, Google's aspiration from the beginning of its existence has been "To
organize the World's Information and make it Universally Accessible". Shouldn't
we be at least suspicious with that?

The promise/threat of the "Internet of Things" promises to change both our
cities and our relationsip with one another as the environment becomes the
interface and our distributed self into the environment becomes the data.
Theoretical research combined with a more active engagement with the
technologies under-study should provide a more systematic and realistic
understanding of this interplay and bridge the theoretical research with the
technical aspects, protocols, the apps and systems. Thinking of pervasive and
mobile technologies as means to extent our ideas and our understanding of the
everyday and as devices that align human practices and "tune" human
interactions, may be an alternative starting point for designing and engaging
with the technologies under-study. "When tuning is thought as a design process,
within this process we all become designers, improvisers, collaborators and
calibrators" (R. Coyne "The Tuning of Place: Sociable Spaces and Pervasive
Digital Media" MIT Press (2010))

Regards,
Olga Paraskevopoulou


MA student in New Media, University of Amsterdam
Master degree in Communication and New Technologies, University of Athens

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From: Katharine S. Willis <willis@locatingmedia.uni-siegen.de>
To: YASMIN DISCUSSIONS <yasmin_discussions@estia.media.uoa.gr>
Sent: Thu, October 21, 2010 11:50:02 AM
Subject: Re: [Yasmin_discussions] Hybrid Space - Hybrid Cities discussion

Dear all,
Andrew- much to my disappointment google can't translate scottish gaelic so I
shall have to pass on your contribution...

I wanted to follow up on the idea of interface. Veroniki raises this indirectly
with her reference to spectator and spectacle, in that she talks about urban
space operates as an interface in which I participate (spectator) or i passively
observe (spectacle). Tobias also refers to this indirectly with the concept of
control which for me is the extent to which I can cause change in or interact
with my environment (i.e. can I control it or again am I merely a passive
observer). This brings me back to Daphne's comment:
*When we are interacting we may move around in physical space in order to
trigger events or read/write information onto space. In this sense, physical
space is a part of the context within which we interact and which is supporting
navigation and interacting with geo-located information. So in my mind it may
also be considered as an aspect of the interface that we experience. *
If events are triggered by my movement in the space, this suggests to me that
the media is enabling the interaction (i.e. my movement is detected and the
technology causes an effect to occur). This raises questions as to what extent I
am truly participating in the interaction and how the interface mediates this
degree of participation- have I chosen to interact or have I simply 'triggered'
a change.......

In my original post I tried to highlight what I feel is a cause of tension in
the hybrid city. This is the nature of the interface(s).
What provides my interface with the city?; is it the mobile screen (the
technology), my interaction with people (social interface) or the physical
structure of the city (material interface)?
Of course we can say all of these are the interface and we interact with them on
many different levels, but what is important is the fact that we now experience
the hybrid city through these various interface more simultaneously. The
physical and material space of the city is augmented with these layers of
technology/media and social behaviours which changes how I interact. This goes
back to the work of Meyrowitz in 'No Sense of Space' who highlighted the effect
on the way we use spatial frameworks to ground our everyday interactions and
when these are mediated with technology our underlying relationship to space is
changed.

So the question for me is - do these layered interfaces work together or do they
function on different paradigms affecting my chances to participate in the
various spaces?
In my own research I have found that the non-visual and highly socialised nature
of mobile, locative and wireless media means that it operates on an entirely
different framework to the way we are used to understanding and experiencing
urban space - that is it has a material, physical structure which we inhabit
and move through in an embodied sense . GPS (the basis of many urban media
interfaces) as a technology is a good example- it is based on the movement of
remote satellites, has a completely non-linear temporality and is omni-present
(we just need a receiver to capture the signal). Therefore GPS interface present
us with a view of the world which might try to copy the way I perceive urban
space but is actually fundamentally different.
The 'spaces' of GPS and the 'spaces' of the material city work on entirely
different frameworks- this means they require different interfaces. And this
returns us to the problem of how I interact with the different spaces of the
hybrid city- how I control, participate and observe the hybrid space.

I would argue that we need a more fundamental shift in the way we design urban
space so that it starts to respond to the social dynamics (e.g. my original
example of flashmobs) and the non-visual, networked nature of media space. And
media space needs to allow more ambiguity (what Omar Khan refers to as
'under-specification' in the Shared Encounter book), a way of representing space
that can deal with the sociality of individual, small scale dynamics and most
importantly puts less demand on our attention so that we can interact with the
urban physical space at the same time as looking at a small screen and
walking..(i.e. not get runover when we're trying to read an email). For example
- some researchers employed a person dressed as a clown riding a unicycle to do
tricks close to people using their mobile phones in urban space (see
http://ind.pn/Li13s). Asked afterwards if they saw the clown - 75 percent said
no. They were too focussed in on their interface....

To sum up, eric gordon's piece offers an interesting perspective:
Spectatorship is not only the result of direct interaction with technology. In
most cases, technology has served primarily as a structuring metaphor for urban
looking. The digital possessive will begin to alter how spectators interact with
each other, with or without network connection. It will begin to alter how they
interact with the built environment, with or without technology."

regards,
Katharine

On 20 Oct 2010, at 13:33, Veroniki Korakidou wrote:

> Daphne hi!
>
> A very interesting post and thank you for the reference. It poses the question
>of "who is the spectator" and "what is the spectacle".
>
> To come back to Tobias, who first put the question of "public" authoring in
>participatory strategies, a relevant graffiti came to my mind - I pass through
>this writing on the wall in my neighbourhood every day: "when rape becomes a
>spectacle, then the spectator becomes a rapist".
>
> Although I wish I am being mistaken, maybe the rhetoric of participatory action
>has already been reversed, like the rhetoric of social interaction back in the
>early 90s (through these popular media that you mentioned).
>
> Any opposite point of view, however, would be quite welcome :-)
>
> Very best,
>
> Veroniki
>
> --- Στις Τρίτ., 19/10/10, ο/η Daphne Dragona <daphne.dragona@gmail.com>
έγραψε:
>
>
> Από: Daphne Dragona <daphne.dragona@gmail.com>
> Θέμα: Re: [Yasmin_discussions] Hybrid Space - Hybrid Cities discussion
> Προς: "YASMIN DISCUSSIONS" <yasmin_discussions@estia.media.uoa.gr>
> Ημερομηνία: Τρίτη, 19 Οκτώβριος 2010, 10:28
>
>
> Dear yasminers,
>
>
>
> Thanks to everybody that has posted new interesting directions and points to
> our discussion the last weeks. Some thoughts and questions came to my mind
> as I was reading the emails, so here is a small contribution from my side.
>
>
>
> Regarding the discussion on what does the "hybrid city as an interface"
> could mean and in particular Katharine's and Dimitri's posts on one hand
>
>
>
> *Katharine also suggests that "...For sure I carry a device with me
> that augments the space. But the screen is still my interface; it
> rarely spills out into the city."*
>
> *When we are interacting we may move around in physical space in order to
> trigger events
> or read/write information onto space. In this sense, physical space is a
> part of the context within which we interact and which is supporting
> navigation and interacting with geo-located information. So in my mind it
> may also be considered as an aspect of the interface that we experience. *
>
> * *
>
> and Tobias' comment on control on the other
>
> * *
>
> *"You can achieve the most effective control, if there is an illusion of
> no control: If you create a dispositive, where participants / citizens have
> the illusion to be authors / explorers of reality, it is much easier to
> control the space and the people within."*
>
>
>
> unavoidably brought the Google Empire into my mind. I believe that not only
> the platforms themselves, that is Google earth, Google Maps and Google
> Street Views , influence our notion of the city and enhance the hybrid city
> model but that the ambiguous character of control plays an important role
> to what this hybrid city is/ will be.
>
>
>
> The image of the world today very much depends on Google's image of the
> world, on its capturing through satellites, airplanes and google cars. It is
> an image that we can jump into, we can navigate, we can experience and
> explore, an image we can also contribute to with our own images. It seems
> like a world which is open and accessible , but under whose gaze it is
> mostly being assembled?
>
>
>
> A very interesting recent book that refers to the metamorphosis of the
> city's image through the media is
>
>
>
> Eric Gordon's, The Urban Spectator : American Concept Cities from Kodak to
> Google
>
>http://www.rorotoko.com/index.php/article/eric_gordon_book_interview_urban_spectator_american_concept_cities_kodak/P1/
>/
>
>
>
> For Gordon today's city is a "database city", "a city with no content other
> than to grant access to content... built for a spectator who wants to
> reconnect with the city, but doesn't want to be told precisely how that
> connection is to take place. This is the same spectator stepped in the
> language of digital networks and databases who desires a city he can possess
> and organize into a personalized urban narrative.
>
> …
>
> We are being watched but by whom and for what reason is unclear even for
> those watching. (taken from Kafka's Trial)"
>
>
> Gordon furthermore explains that we enjoy the database cities for the same
> reason that we like Google itself and we dont mind it having access to our
> personal's search histories. Because there is a suggested transparency: even
> if the same information is shared with marketers, we believe we are in
> control of our data and we feel safe.
>
>
> The potentialities given by the geographical oriented visual search engines
> today are surely exciting. But are we really granted access and control
> because we think that we can modify and personalise the urban environment?
> Can a new image of the city be shaped by all users - habitants?
>
>
>
> I think there is an interesting misunderstanding here , when believing or
> hoping that we are mostly going from the public towards the common when we
> are still in the stage of semi-private or semi-public exercising control.
> Something Molly also mentioned from another perspective.
>
> Cheers
> daphne
>
> On 18 October 2010 11:07, rob van kranenburg <kranenbuster@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Dear Nina,
>>
>> Thanks!
>> I know of it because my good friend Matt Ratto is running Critical Making.
>> With Bronac Ferran, jaromil, Felipe Fonseca and Matt we set up Bricolabs
>> http://www.bricolabs.net/
>> in 2007
>>
>> Greetings, Rob
>>
>> On Sun, Oct 17, 2010 at 5:15 PM, nina czegledy <czegledy@interlog.com
>>> wrote:
>>
>>> Dear All,
>>>
>>> thanks Rob - regarding the Internet of Things
>>> please note Designing Digital Media for the Internet of Things (DDiMIT)
>> our
>>> University of Toronto initiative since 2009
>>> http://criticalmaking.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/11/Timbits2009.pdf
>>>
>>> best
>>> nina czegledy
>>>
>>> Dear all,
>>>>
>>>> also please check out the workshops Council, a thinktank for the
>> Internet
>>>> of
>>>> Things, launched with in december 2009
>>>>
>>>> http://www.theinternetofthings.eu/workshops
>>>>
>>>> This december 2010 in Paris:
>>>> http://www.theinternetofthings.eu/council-france
>>>>
>>>> Salut! Rob
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Sunday, October 24, 2010

[Yasmin_discussions] News from the Sahrawi refugee camps in southern Algeria

Dear Yasminers,

Even if I have mostly been a lurker lately, I would like to break my silence and share with you the latest project at http://megafone.net. Throughout this last year, Antoni Abad and I have been working with groups of young women living in the Sahrawi refugee camps in southern Algeria, providing them with the means and motivations to share their views and daily lives on the Internet. By using wifi-enabled mobile phones, these young women are able to send images and sound recordings directly to a web page: http://megafone.net/SAHARA

The participants, who come from different camps, get together periodically and discuss the topics they would like to publish on the net. So far, their interests have concentrated on subjects such as children, women, work, health or education. They are aware of the power of sharing their views on the Internet, and see it as a way of raising awareness about their current situation: even if the pictures do not depict the conflict directly, every image refers to it implicitly.

As you can imagine, sustaining this project is difficult because of many reasons. The Sahrawi refugees in southern Algeria are living under precarious conditions: there is a lack of almost everything. Yet, they have a number of satellite dishes which allow them to connect to the Internet. This is something they value greatly, although the limited bandwidth and the harsh weather conditions make it really hard to surf the Web there. In the camps, we found a great interest in keeping this project alive; however, we also found that access to the Internet is a commons that must be managed. Given the narrow bandwidth (128 Kbits on a good day), one cannot have the luxury of downloading mp3 files or videos without harming other people's connection speeds. People need to be very sensible about each other's rights to use the shared bandwidth.

This project has taught us a lot, and we are determined to keep it going as much as we can. In any case, I would like to invite you to take a look at what these young women are publishing in http://megafone.net/SAHARA. They know that Antoni and I will try to do our best to spread their images and words far and wide. And they hope that this can make a difference, however small it may be.

Thank you.

Best wishes,
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Thursday, October 21, 2010

Re: [Yasmin_discussions] Hybrid Space - Hybrid Cities discussion

Dear Yasminers

Thank you Katherine for once more giving us a concise focus on the nature of
user experience in the hybrid city. I think the issues raised point to an
inherent contradiction in the nature of the technology and its use. The
mobile phone is usually part of the protective 'bubble' we wear in the city
and often promotes an atomised interaction which is basically individualist
and further withdraws us from social interaction in public spaces. This is
not surprising given the provenance of GPS from spy and military technology
and the ability of the mobile phone to project the needs of global business
into our leisure time.

The question is how to use the technology to do the reverse-to get people to
re-engage in social interaction, using the other affordances of the
technology: that is the ability to locate and identify rich histories and
narratives with human and social meanings, to collaboratively explore,
collaboratively game and to identify kindred spirits in locations etc. I
don't just mean flashmobs which to me represent a rather desperate wish to
reclaim group interaction in public space and compensate for the
deficiencies of our normal (withdrawn) behaviours. The god-like view of GPS
is not the only possible mode of mobile interaction. The ability to interact
with and control our environment is usually empowering- if we add to the mix
crowd-sourcing and other group activities then the technology's downsides
can be mitigated. We are developing a number of projects at the Institute of
Creative Technologies <http://www.ioct.dmu.ac.uk> (IOCT) in Leicester, which
use the wisdom of crowds to develop better routes for
cyclists<http://www.pervasive.org.uk/projects/songlines>,
to monitor city-wide energy use <http://duall.dmu.ac.uk/>patterns, and to
expand museums using layers of reconstructed histories from Roman
times<http://www.ioct.dmu.ac.uk/research/heritageandmapping/virtualromans.html>
.

I think once again we are looking at the infancy of these uses and the
picture will bebe much clearer in just a few years as to how our lives and
perceptions are being subtly but fundamentaly altered by mobile and
pervasive technologies.

Martin

On Thu, Oct 21, 2010 at 10:50 AM, Katharine S. Willis <
willis@locatingmedia.uni-siegen.de> wrote:

> Dear all,
> Andrew- much to my disappointment google can't translate scottish gaelic so
> I shall have to pass on your contribution...
>
> I wanted to follow up on the idea of interface. Veroniki raises this
> indirectly with her reference to spectator and spectacle, in that she talks
> about urban space operates as an interface in which I participate
> (spectator) or i passively observe (spectacle). Tobias also refers to this
> indirectly with the concept of control which for me is the extent to which I
> can cause change in or interact with my environment (i.e. can I control it
> or again am I merely a passive observer). This brings me back to Daphne's
> comment:
>
> *When we are interacting we may move around in physical space in order to
> trigger events or read/write information onto space. In this sense, physical
> space is a part of the context within which we interact and which is
> supporting navigation and interacting with geo-located information. So in my
> mind it may also be considered as an aspect of the interface that we
> experience. *
> If events are triggered by my movement in the space, this suggests to me
> that the media is enabling the interaction (i.e. my movement is detected and
> the technology causes an effect to occur). This raises questions as to what
> extent I am truly participating in the interaction and how the interface
> mediates this degree of participation- have I chosen to interact or have I
> simply 'triggered' a change.......
>
> In my original post I tried to highlight what I feel is a cause of tension
> in the hybrid city. This is the nature of the interface(s).
> What provides my interface with the city?; is it the mobile screen (the
> technology), my interaction with people (social interface) or the physical
> structure of the city (material interface)?
> Of course we can say all of these are the interface and we interact with
> them on many different levels, but what is important is the fact that we now
> experience the hybrid city through these various interface more
> simultaneously. The physical and material space of the city is augmented
> with these layers of technology/media and social behaviours which changes
> how I interact. This goes back to the work of Meyrowitz in 'No Sense of
> Space' who highlighted the effect on the way we use spatial frameworks to
> ground our everyday interactions and when these are mediated with technology
> our underlying relationship to space is changed.
>
> So the question for me is - do these layered interfaces work together or do
> they function on different paradigms affecting my chances to participate in
> the various spaces?
> In my own research I have found that the non-visual and highly socialised
> nature of mobile, locative and wireless media means that it operates on an
> entirely different framework to the way we are used to understanding and
> experiencing urban space - that is it has a material, physical structure
> which we inhabit and move through in an embodied sense . GPS (the basis of
> many urban media interfaces) as a technology is a good example- it is based
> on the movement of remote satellites, has a completely non-linear
> temporality and is omni-present (we just need a receiver to capture the
> signal). Therefore GPS interface present us with a view of the world which
> might try to copy the way I perceive urban space but is actually
> fundamentally different.
> The 'spaces' of GPS and the 'spaces' of the material city work on entirely
> different frameworks- this means they require different interfaces. And this
> returns us to the problem of how I interact with the different spaces of the
> hybrid city- how I control, participate and observe the hybrid space.
>
> I would argue that we need a more fundamental shift in the way we design
> urban space so that it starts to respond to the social dynamics (e.g. my
> original example of flashmobs) and the non-visual, networked nature of media
> space. And media space needs to allow more ambiguity (what Omar Khan refers
> to as 'under-specification' in the Shared Encounter book), a way of
> representing space that can deal with the sociality of individual, small
> scale dynamics and most importantly puts less demand on our attention so
> that we can interact with the urban physical space at the same time as
> looking at a small screen and walking..(i.e. not get runover when we're
> trying to read an email). For example - some researchers employed a person
> dressed as a clown riding a unicycle to do tricks close to people using
> their mobile phones in urban space (see http://ind.pn/Li13s). Asked
> afterwards if they saw the clown - 75 percent said no. They were too
> focussed in on their interface....
>
> To sum up, eric gordon's piece offers an interesting perspective:
> Spectatorship is not only the result of direct interaction with technology.
> In most cases, technology has served primarily as a structuring metaphor for
> urban looking. The digital possessive will begin to alter how spectators
> interact with each other, with or without network connection. It will begin
> to alter how they interact with the built environment, with or without
> technology."
>
> regards,
> Katharine
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> On 20 Oct 2010, at 13:33, Veroniki Korakidou wrote:
>
> Daphne hi!
>>
>> A very interesting post and thank you for the reference. It poses the
>> question of "who is the spectator" and "what is the spectacle".
>>
>> To come back to Tobias, who first put the question of "public" authoring
>> in participatory strategies, a relevant graffiti came to my mind - I pass
>> through this writing on the wall in my neighbourhood every day: "when rape
>> becomes a spectacle, then the spectator becomes a rapist".
>>
>> Although I wish I am being mistaken, maybe the rhetoric of participatory
>> action has already been reversed, like the rhetoric of social interaction
>> back in the early 90s (through these popular media that you mentioned).
>>
>> Any opposite point of view, however, would be quite welcome :-)
>>
>> Very best,
>>
>> Veroniki
>>
>> --- Στις Τρίτ., 19/10/10, ο/η Daphne Dragona <daphne.dragona@gmail.com>
>> έγραψε:
>>
>>
>> Από: Daphne Dragona <daphne.dragona@gmail.com>
>> Θέμα: Re: [Yasmin_discussions] Hybrid Space - Hybrid Cities discussion
>> Προς: "YASMIN DISCUSSIONS" <yasmin_discussions@estia.media.uoa.gr>
>> Ημερομηνία: Τρίτη, 19 Οκτώβριος 2010, 10:28
>>
>>
>> Dear yasminers,
>>
>>
>>
>> Thanks to everybody that has posted new interesting directions and points
>> to
>> our discussion the last weeks. Some thoughts and questions came to my mind
>> as I was reading the emails, so here is a small contribution from my side.
>>
>>
>>
>> Regarding the discussion on what does the "hybrid city as an interface"
>> could mean and in particular Katharine's and Dimitri's posts on one hand
>>
>>
>>
>> *Katharine also suggests that "...For sure I carry a device with me
>> that augments the space. But the screen is still my interface; it
>> rarely spills out into the city."*
>>
>> *When we are interacting we may move around in physical space in order to
>> trigger events
>> or read/write information onto space. In this sense, physical space is a
>> part of the context within which we interact and which is supporting
>> navigation and interacting with geo-located information. So in my mind it
>> may also be considered as an aspect of the interface that we experience. *
>>
>> * *
>>
>> and Tobias' comment on control on the other
>>
>> * *
>>
>> *"You can achieve the most effective control, if there is an illusion of
>> no control: If you create a dispositive, where participants / citizens
>> have
>> the illusion to be authors / explorers of reality, it is much easier to
>> control the space and the people within."*
>>
>>
>>
>> unavoidably brought the Google Empire into my mind. I believe that not
>> only
>> the platforms themselves, that is Google earth, Google Maps and Google
>> Street Views , influence our notion of the city and enhance the hybrid
>> city
>> model but that the ambiguous character of control plays an important role
>> to what this hybrid city is/ will be.
>>
>>
>>
>> The image of the world today very much depends on Google's image of the
>> world, on its capturing through satellites, airplanes and google cars. It
>> is
>> an image that we can jump into, we can navigate, we can experience and
>> explore, an image we can also contribute to with our own images. It seems
>> like a world which is open and accessible , but under whose gaze it is
>> mostly being assembled?
>>
>>
>>
>> A very interesting recent book that refers to the metamorphosis of the
>> city's image through the media is
>>
>>
>>
>> Eric Gordon's, The Urban Spectator : American Concept Cities from Kodak to
>> Google
>>
>>
>> http://www.rorotoko.com/index.php/article/eric_gordon_book_interview_urban_spectator_american_concept_cities_kodak/P1/
>>
>>
>>
>> For Gordon today's city is a "database city", "a city with no content
>> other
>> than to grant access to content... built for a spectator who wants to
>> reconnect with the city, but doesn't want to be told precisely how that
>> connection is to take place. This is the same spectator stepped in the
>> language of digital networks and databases who desires a city he can
>> possess
>> and organize into a personalized urban narrative.
>>
>> ...
>>
>> We are being watched but by whom and for what reason is unclear even for
>> those watching. (taken from Kafka's Trial)"
>>
>>
>> Gordon furthermore explains that we enjoy the database cities for the
>> same
>> reason that we like Google itself and we dont mind it having access to our
>> personal's search histories. Because there is a suggested transparency:
>> even
>> if the same information is shared with marketers, we believe we are in
>> control of our data and we feel safe.
>>
>>
>> The potentialities given by the geographical oriented visual search
>> engines
>> today are surely exciting. But are we really granted access and control
>> because we think that we can modify and personalise the urban environment?
>> Can a new image of the city be shaped by all users - habitants?
>>
>>
>>
>> I think there is an interesting misunderstanding here , when believing or
>> hoping that we are mostly going from the public towards the common when
>> we
>> are still in the stage of semi-private or semi-public exercising control.
>> Something Molly also mentioned from another perspective.
>>
>> Cheers
>> daphne
>>
>> On 18 October 2010 11:07, rob van kranenburg <kranenbuster@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>> Dear Nina,
>>>
>>> Thanks!
>>> I know of it because my good friend Matt Ratto is running Critical
>>> Making.
>>> With Bronac Ferran, jaromil, Felipe Fonseca and Matt we set up Bricolabs
>>> http://www.bricolabs.net/
>>> in 2007
>>>
>>> Greetings, Rob
>>>
>>> On Sun, Oct 17, 2010 at 5:15 PM, nina czegledy <czegledy@interlog.com
>>>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>
>>> Dear All,
>>>>
>>>> thanks Rob - regarding the Internet of Things
>>>> please note Designing Digital Media for the Internet of Things (DDiMIT)
>>>>
>>> our
>>>
>>>> University of Toronto initiative since 2009
>>>> http://criticalmaking.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/11/Timbits2009.pdf
>>>>
>>>> best
>>>> nina czegledy
>>>>
>>>> Dear all,
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> also please check out the workshops Council, a thinktank for the
>>>>>
>>>> Internet
>>>
>>>> of
>>>>> Things, launched with in december 2009
>>>>>
>>>>> http://www.theinternetofthings.eu/workshops
>>>>>
>>>>> This december 2010 in Paris:
>>>>> http://www.theinternetofthings.eu/council-france
>>>>>
>>>>> Salut! Rob
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Re: [Yasmin_discussions] Hybrid Spaces : Hybrid Cities : Hybrid Territories

Bonjour Yasmin,

I want to thank Dimitris Charitos for reminding me that I should have
included a short English translation of my comment according to list
policy. I now do so with pleasure.

all the best,
Andrew

"
The winged denizens of the moor were fondly and warmly resting under
shelter of the banks, and the antlered monarch of the wild stood under the
shadow of the ancient oak shaking the flies from his tawny hide, as the
rout broke in upon Cona Glen.
"

---

> "
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> tàimh an còs nam bruach, agus ùdlaiche cabrach nam fàs-ghlac, fo
> dhubhar na daraig aosda, a' siabadh nan cuileag o 'bhian calgaoh, an
> uair a bhrist an ruaig a steach air Cona-ghleann.
> "

Re: [Yasmin_discussions] Hybrid Space - Hybrid Cities discussion

Dear all,
Andrew- much to my disappointment google can't translate scottish
gaelic so I shall have to pass on your contribution...

I wanted to follow up on the idea of interface. Veroniki raises this
indirectly with her reference to spectator and spectacle, in that she
talks about urban space operates as an interface in which I
participate (spectator) or i passively observe (spectacle). Tobias
also refers to this indirectly with the concept of control which for
me is the extent to which I can cause change in or interact with my
environment (i.e. can I control it or again am I merely a passive
observer). This brings me back to Daphne's comment:
*When we are interacting we may move around in physical space in
order to trigger events or read/write information onto space. In this
sense, physical space is a part of the context within which we
interact and which is supporting navigation and interacting with geo-
located information. So in my mind it may also be considered as an
aspect of the interface that we experience. *
If events are triggered by my movement in the space, this suggests to
me that the media is enabling the interaction (i.e. my movement is
detected and the technology causes an effect to occur). This raises
questions as to what extent I am truly participating in the
interaction and how the interface mediates this degree of
participation- have I chosen to interact or have I simply 'triggered'
a change.......

In my original post I tried to highlight what I feel is a cause of
tension in the hybrid city. This is the nature of the interface(s).
What provides my interface with the city?; is it the mobile screen
(the technology), my interaction with people (social interface) or
the physical structure of the city (material interface)?
Of course we can say all of these are the interface and we interact
with them on many different levels, but what is important is the fact
that we now experience the hybrid city through these various
interface more simultaneously. The physical and material space of the
city is augmented with these layers of technology/media and social
behaviours which changes how I interact. This goes back to the work
of Meyrowitz in 'No Sense of Space' who highlighted the effect on
the way we use spatial frameworks to ground our everyday interactions
and when these are mediated with technology our underlying
relationship to space is changed.

So the question for me is - do these layered interfaces work together
or do they function on different paradigms affecting my chances to
participate in the various spaces?
In my own research I have found that the non-visual and highly
socialised nature of mobile, locative and wireless media means that
it operates on an entirely different framework to the way we are used
to understanding and experiencing urban space - that is it has a
material, physical structure which we inhabit and move through in an
embodied sense . GPS (the basis of many urban media interfaces) as a
technology is a good example- it is based on the movement of remote
satellites, has a completely non-linear temporality and is omni-
present (we just need a receiver to capture the signal). Therefore
GPS interface present us with a view of the world which might try to
copy the way I perceive urban space but is actually fundamentally
different.
The 'spaces' of GPS and the 'spaces' of the material city work on
entirely different frameworks- this means they require different
interfaces. And this returns us to the problem of how I interact with
the different spaces of the hybrid city- how I control, participate
and observe the hybrid space.

I would argue that we need a more fundamental shift in the way we
design urban space so that it starts to respond to the social
dynamics (e.g. my original example of flashmobs) and the non-visual,
networked nature of media space. And media space needs to allow more
ambiguity (what Omar Khan refers to as 'under-specification' in the
Shared Encounter book), a way of representing space that can deal
with the sociality of individual, small scale dynamics and most
importantly puts less demand on our attention so that we can interact
with the urban physical space at the same time as looking at a small
screen and walking..(i.e. not get runover when we're trying to read
an email). For example - some researchers employed a person dressed
as a clown riding a unicycle to do tricks close to people using their
mobile phones in urban space (see http://ind.pn/Li13s). Asked
afterwards if they saw the clown - 75 percent said no. They were too
focussed in on their interface....

To sum up, eric gordon's piece offers an interesting perspective:
Spectatorship is not only the result of direct interaction with
technology. In most cases, technology has served primarily as a
structuring metaphor for urban looking. The digital possessive will
begin to alter how spectators interact with each other, with or
without network connection. It will begin to alter how they interact
with the built environment, with or without technology."

regards,
Katharine

On 20 Oct 2010, at 13:33, Veroniki Korakidou wrote:

> Daphne hi!
>
> A very interesting post and thank you for the reference. It poses
> the question of "who is the spectator" and "what is the spectacle".
>
> To come back to Tobias, who first put the question of "public"
> authoring in participatory strategies, a relevant graffiti came to
> my mind - I pass through this writing on the wall in my
> neighbourhood every day: "when rape becomes a spectacle, then the
> spectator becomes a rapist".
>
> Although I wish I am being mistaken, maybe the rhetoric of
> participatory action has already been reversed, like the rhetoric
> of social interaction back in the early 90s (through these popular
> media that you mentioned).
>
> Any opposite point of view, however, would be quite welcome :-)
>
> Very best,
>
> Veroniki
>
> --- Στις Τρίτ., 19/10/10, ο/η Daphne Dragona
> <daphne.dragona@gmail.com> έγραψε:
>
>
> Από: Daphne Dragona <daphne.dragona@gmail.com>
> Θέμα: Re: [Yasmin_discussions] Hybrid Space - Hybrid Cities
> discussion
> Προς: "YASMIN DISCUSSIONS" <yasmin_discussions@estia.media.uoa.gr>
> Ημερομηνία: Τρίτη, 19 Οκτώβριος 2010, 10:28
>
>
> Dear yasminers,
>
>
>
> Thanks to everybody that has posted new interesting directions and
> points to
> our discussion the last weeks. Some thoughts and questions came to
> my mind
> as I was reading the emails, so here is a small contribution from
> my side.
>
>
>
> Regarding the discussion on what does the "hybrid city as an
> interface"
> could mean and in particular Katharine's and Dimitri's posts on
> one hand
>
>
>
> *Katharine also suggests that "...For sure I carry a device with me
> that augments the space. But the screen is still my interface; it
> rarely spills out into the city."*
>
> *When we are interacting we may move around in physical space in
> order to
> trigger events
> or read/write information onto space. In this sense, physical space
> is a
> part of the context within which we interact and which is supporting
> navigation and interacting with geo-located information. So in my
> mind it
> may also be considered as an aspect of the interface that we
> experience. *
>
> * *
>
> and Tobias' comment on control on the other
>
> * *
>
> *"You can achieve the most effective control, if there is an
> illusion of
> no control: If you create a dispositive, where participants /
> citizens have
> the illusion to be authors / explorers of reality, it is much
> easier to
> control the space and the people within."*
>
>
>
> unavoidably brought the Google Empire into my mind. I believe that
> not only
> the platforms themselves, that is Google earth, Google Maps and Google
> Street Views , influence our notion of the city and enhance the
> hybrid city
> model but that the ambiguous character of control plays an
> important role
> to what this hybrid city is/ will be.
>
>
>
> The image of the world today very much depends on Google's image
> of the
> world, on its capturing through satellites, airplanes and google
> cars. It is
> an image that we can jump into, we can navigate, we can experience and
> explore, an image we can also contribute to with our own images.
> It seems
> like a world which is open and accessible , but under whose gaze it is
> mostly being assembled?
>
>
>
> A very interesting recent book that refers to the metamorphosis of
> the
> city's image through the media is
>
>
>
> Eric Gordon's, The Urban Spectator : American Concept Cities from
> Kodak to
> Google
>
> http://www.rorotoko.com/index.php/article/
> eric_gordon_book_interview_urban_spectator_american_concept_cities_kod
> ak/P1/
>
>
>
> For Gordon today's city is a "database city", "a city with no
> content other
> than to grant access to content... built for a spectator who wants to
> reconnect with the city, but doesn't want to be told precisely how
> that
> connection is to take place. This is the same spectator stepped in the
> language of digital networks and databases who desires a city he
> can possess
> and organize into a personalized urban narrative.
>
> …
>
> We are being watched but by whom and for what reason is unclear
> even for
> those watching. (taken from Kafka's Trial)"
>
>
> Gordon furthermore explains that we enjoy the database cities for
> the same
> reason that we like Google itself and we dont mind it having access
> to our
> personal's search histories. Because there is a suggested
> transparency: even
> if the same information is shared with marketers, we believe we are in
> control of our data and we feel safe.
>
>
> The potentialities given by the geographical oriented visual search
> engines
> today are surely exciting. But are we really granted access and
> control
> because we think that we can modify and personalise the urban
> environment?
> Can a new image of the city be shaped by all users - habitants?
>
>
>
> I think there is an interesting misunderstanding here , when
> believing or
> hoping that we are mostly going from the public towards the common
> when we
> are still in the stage of semi-private or semi-public exercising
> control.
> Something Molly also mentioned from another perspective.
>
> Cheers
> daphne
>
> On 18 October 2010 11:07, rob van kranenburg
> <kranenbuster@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Dear Nina,
>>
>> Thanks!
>> I know of it because my good friend Matt Ratto is running Critical
>> Making.
>> With Bronac Ferran, jaromil, Felipe Fonseca and Matt we set up
>> Bricolabs
>> http://www.bricolabs.net/
>> in 2007
>>
>> Greetings, Rob
>>
>> On Sun, Oct 17, 2010 at 5:15 PM, nina czegledy <czegledy@interlog.com
>>> wrote:
>>
>>> Dear All,
>>>
>>> thanks Rob - regarding the Internet of Things
>>> please note Designing Digital Media for the Internet of Things
>>> (DDiMIT)
>> our
>>> University of Toronto initiative since 2009
>>> http://criticalmaking.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/11/Timbits2009.pdf
>>>
>>> best
>>> nina czegledy
>>>
>>> Dear all,
>>>>
>>>> also please check out the workshops Council, a thinktank for the
>> Internet
>>>> of
>>>> Things, launched with in december 2009
>>>>
>>>> http://www.theinternetofthings.eu/workshops
>>>>
>>>> This december 2010 in Paris:
>>>> http://www.theinternetofthings.eu/council-france
>>>>
>>>> Salut! Rob
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Wednesday, October 20, 2010

[Yasmin_discussions] Hybrid Spaces : Hybrid Cities : Hybrid Territories

Bonjour Yasmin,

Following is my third contribution to this ongoing discussion.
This text is in the language of my ancestors.
I trust this will pose a resolvable problem.

Andrew

"
Bha eòin bhuchallach an t-sléibh gu caidreaoh, guamach, a' gabhail
tàimh an còs nam bruach, agus ùdlaiche cabrach nam fàs-ghlac, fo
dhubhar na daraig aosda, a' siabadh nan cuileag o 'bhian calgaoh, an
uair a bhrist an ruaig a steach air Cona-ghleann.
"