Monday, September 22, 2014

[Yasmin_discussions] What does STEAM have to do with it


our stem to steam discussion prompted a interchange
between paul fishwick and kang zhang at the utd computer
science department

kang i think points out correctly that in fact
the stem to steam work goes in both directions

- STEM into the arts- as with computational aesthetics

and the arts into STEM as with aesthetic computing ( see fishwicks
book and manifesto)

there is also creative computing and computational creativity

we would be interested in yasminers comments and experiences
in working both stem to steam and steam to stem !!

roger malina

From: Kang Zhang <>
Subject: Re: [Yasmin_discussions] yasmin redux
Date: September 22, 2014 at 10:57:15 AM CDT
To: Paul Fishwick <>
Cc: Moon Kim <>, "Ryan P. McMahan" <>

Hi, Paul and Roger,

Thanks for forwarding the discussion.

The dual directions are well reflected in Aesthetic Computing
and Computational Aesthetics. I think the latter has been around
since the early days of computers, but the former is much
needed. Arts are particularly needed in HCI, visualization
and programming (Knuth called it Arts of Programming).

I have been arguing that the MBA or EMBA curriculum should
include at least an art class, and am sure this will happen
soon or later.

Just share some of my thought.

Thanks and best wishes.


Roger F Malina
Is in Dallas right now
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