Friday, May 7, 2010

Re: [Yasmin_discussions] Narcissism and Anthropocentrism

Thank you Francesco.
laura

2010/5/7 francesco monico <francescomonico@gmail.com>

> Dear Laura,
> we are exploring the topic throughout art practices, starting from the
> processual artwork *Is there Love in the technoetic Narcissus?* cross this
> mailing list. Personally I need always a theoretical background and for
> that anthropocentrism is not simply dealing with climate change, the point
> is climate change is an eco-logical massive problem. In fact in a
> pragmatical point of view Anthropocentrism plays an analogous role as
> androcentrism in feminist theory and ethnocentrism in anti-racist theory.
> For that we could call human-centredness "anthrocentrism" (Plumwood, V.
> 1993) to emphasise this parallel.
>
> How could we speak about an non-anthrocentric-art, if seems not possible to
> avoid the centripetal tendency of the humankind?
>
> fra
>
>
> 2010/5/5 Laura Gemini <laura.gemini@uniurb.it>
>
> > Thanks.
> > So what about Maps by Diller Scofidio + Renfro? Could this work be
> included
> > in this kind of research?
> > Unfortunately I can't find this work but I posted some pictures here:
> >
> >
> >
> http://incertezzacreativa.wordpress.com/2009/02/15/great-disappointed-expectations-1-terre-natale/
> >
> > As I can understand the topic anthropocentrism is linked to: 1. the
> "kinds"
> > of art named by Natasha; 2. projects dealing with climate change.
> >
> > Right?
> >
> > Best,
> > laura
> >
> >
> > 2010/5/5 Pier Luigi Capucci <plc@noemalab.org>
> >
> > > Dear Laura,
> > >
> > > indeed there are are many artists working on these topics, some of them
> > > have been indicared in other posts.
> > > More, there are artsts who are working on the idea of sustainability or
> > on
> > > the impact of the human activities on our planet.
> > >
> > > Then there are events and artists involved in projects dealing with the
> > > climate change, here a few links:
> > >
> > > http://www.olats.org/fcm/artclimat/artclimat_eng.php
> > > http://www.capefarewell.com/
> > >
> > >
> >
> http://www.guardian.co.uk/artanddesign/2009/dec/02/climate-change-art-earth-rethink
> > > http://climatechangeeducation.org/art/visual_arts/
> > >
> > > There are many more situations dealing with the climate change issues,
> > > sorry for indicating here only a few websites. Maybe some yasminers can
> > add
> > > more information about this topic.
> > >
> > > Best,
> > >
> > > Pier Luigi
> > >
> > >
> > > Il giorno 02/mag/2010, alle ore 00.28, Laura Gemini ha scritto:
> > >
> > > > Dear Pier Luigi,
> > > > Dear Yasminers,
> > > >
> > > > I'm not a respondent in this debate but I've been following it and I
> > find
> > > > all the posts very interesting. So I'd like to do a simple question,
> > > > starting from a short sentence.
> > > > As far as I'm concerned, that is from an ephistemological and
> > > sociological
> > > > point of view, the anthropocentrism – and its linked concept:
> > narcissism
> > > –
> > > > it's mainly a symbolic issue. In other words: only the human beings
> can
> > > > leave the anthropocentric point of view as a symbolic instance.
> > According
> > > to
> > > > Edgar Morin I mean… If we try to define a sort of "eco-thought" (that
> > > could
> > > > include nature and technology as well) we must conceive this process
> as
> > > an
> > > > human awareness or necessity to reduce the complexity of the world.
> > > > Now I'm wondering: what does it means for the art and for the
> artists?
> > > What
> > > > kind of art, which example or case, is based on this kind of
> awareness
> > > or
> > > > necessity?
> > > >
> > > > Laura
> > > >
> > > > 2010/4/23 Pier Luigi Capucci <plc@noemalab.org>
> > > >
> > > >> hello,
> > > >>
> > > >> sorry Francesco, Roger and all for joining this discussion late. It
> is
> > > >> indeed a very intriguing topic, and, as Natasha noted, a
> > > multidimensional
> > > >> one.
> > > >>
> > > >> Indeed the idea of "anthropocentrism" as some kind of ideology which
> > > puts
> > > >> humankind at the center of the known world has been historically put
> > in
> > > >> discussion in a long path. 2009 was both the 400 anniversary of the
> > > >> telescope's invention by Galileo and the 150 anniversary of the
> > > publication
> > > >> of Darwin's "Origin of the Species" (and the 200centenary of his
> > birth).
> > > >> [BTW 2009 was the centenary anniversary of the Futurism avantgarde
> > too,
> > > with
> > > >> the central position their time's technologies had in their poetics,
> > but
> > > >> we'd go too far]
> > > >>
> > > >> With his invention Galileo gave an extraordinary push to the sky's
> > > >> observation, to the diffusion of the heliocentric system and of
> > > Copernicus'
> > > >> theories, also through the "scientific method" (which is often
> called
> > > >> "Galilean method"). Copernicus dethroned the humankind from his
> > central
> > > >> position in the Universe, but, although dislocated in a remote zone
> > the
> > > >> humankind remained the chosen creature, the first one, the highest
> > among
> > > the
> > > >> living beings on the Earth. Darwin dethroned the humankind from his
> > > >> privileged position. Like all the living beings, humankind is the
> > result
> > > of
> > > >> an extremely long process, of a "design without a designer". All the
> > > living
> > > >> beings, humankind included, were not created as they are and are
> not
> > > steady
> > > >> and unchangeable, but evolved starting about 3,8 billion years ago
> > from
> > > a
> > > >> remote group of primeval common organisms.
> > > >>
> > > >> Hence all the living organisms are related, and each individual,
> > > whatever
> > > >> species it belongs, is unique but it is pervaded by the matter and
> the
> > > >> processes which compose all the other living beings. The fundamental
> > > >> processes and the control mechanisms are essentially the same in all
> > > >> species; in our genes we have the genes of many other species, even
> of
> > > >> viruses. And the difficulties and discussions in the science domain
> on
> > > the
> > > >> definition of "species" and on the methodology to set the
> differences
> > > among
> > > >> the species emphasize this "unitarity".
> > > >>
> > > >> It seems today the humankind is reaching another topic point in this
> > > >> relativization path, since he has the chance to use sciences and
> > > >> technologies to hugely modify some issues which deeply define the
> > "human
> > > >> essence", which becomes basically uncertain. But does this all imply
> > > that
> > > >> anthropocentrism is fading out? Or, better, does it imply it
> will/can
> > > >> disappear?
> > > >>
> > > >> More after.
> > > >>
> > > >> Pier Luigi
> > > >>
> > > >> --
> > > >> Pier Luigi Capucci
> > > >> e-mail: plc@noemalab.org
> > > >> web: http://www.noemalab.org/plc/plc.html
> > > >> skype: plcapucci
> > > >>
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