I know Moya - both in first both in Second Life - but I didn't know this
peculiar point of view...
Very interesting.
Best,
laura
2010/5/3 wafa bourkhis <wafabourkhis@yahoo.fr>
> Dear Laura, YasminersI wanted to answer to your question about
> NarcissismMarshall Mc Luhann talked about it in his book "Understanding
> media", he said that the human beings uses technologies to satisfy their
> narcissism. Wich is the case of the artist Patrick MOYAHe is a french artist
> working in Nice (France)This artist puts his patrimonial name on all his
> artworks, to express his narcissim and egcentrism as explained the
> psychologist Florence CANARELLI.He work only on his artwork and he define
> that the narcissism is a part of creativity and human intelligence"Do not be
> too modest, because modesty is an obstacle to human intelligence. I mean the
> inner modesty, as modesty is a form of external politeness and propriety,
> good human relations, and thus the satisfaction of our claims""Ne soyons pas
> trop modestes, car la modestie est un frein à l'intelligence humaine.
> J'entends la modestie intérieure, car la modestie extérieure est une forme
> de
> politesse et de convenance utile aux relations humaines, et donc à la
> satisfaction de nos prétentions"*So, you can find all his works on his
> website and also on his island in Second Life and enjoy his narcissism:
> http://moyacircus.com/* CANARELLI Florence, Le
> cas MOYA, Nice : Galerie FERRERO, 2006, 122 pagesCordiallyWafa
>
> --- En date de : Dim 2.5.10, Laura Gemini <laura.gemini@uniurb.it> a
> écrit :
>
> De: Laura Gemini <laura.gemini@uniurb.it>
> Objet: Re: [Yasmin_discussions] Narcissism and Anthropocentrism
> À: "YASMIN DISCUSSIONS" <yasmin_discussions@estia.media.uoa.gr>
> Date: Dimanche 2 mai 2010, 0h28
>
> Dear Pier Luigi,
> Dear Yasminers,
>
> I'm not a respondent in this debate but I've been following it and I find
> all the posts very interesting. So I'd like to do a simple question,
> starting from a short sentence.
> As far as I'm concerned, that is from an ephistemological and sociological
> point of view, the anthropocentrism – and its linked concept: narcissism –
> it's mainly a symbolic issue. In other words: only the human beings can
> leave the anthropocentric point of view as a symbolic instance. According
> to
> Edgar Morin I mean… If we try to define a sort of "eco-thought" (that could
> include nature and technology as well) we must conceive this process as an
> human awareness or necessity to reduce the complexity of the world.
> Now I'm wondering: what does it means for the art and for the artists? What
> kind of art, which example or case, is based on this kind of awareness or
> necessity?
>
> Laura
>
> 2010/4/23 Pier Luigi Capucci <plc@noemalab.org>
>
> > hello,
> >
> > sorry Francesco, Roger and all for joining this discussion late. It is
> > indeed a very intriguing topic, and, as Natasha noted, a multidimensional
> > one.
> >
> > Indeed the idea of "anthropocentrism" as some kind of ideology which puts
> > humankind at the center of the known world has been historically put in
> > discussion in a long path. 2009 was both the 400 anniversary of the
> > telescope's invention by Galileo and the 150 anniversary of the
> publication
> > of Darwin's "Origin of the Species" (and the 200centenary of his birth).
> > [BTW 2009 was the centenary anniversary of the Futurism avantgarde too,
> with
> > the central position their time's technologies had in their poetics, but
> > we'd go too far]
> >
> > With his invention Galileo gave an extraordinary push to the sky's
> > observation, to the diffusion of the heliocentric system and of
> Copernicus'
> > theories, also through the "scientific method" (which is often called
> > "Galilean method"). Copernicus dethroned the humankind from his central
> > position in the Universe, but, although dislocated in a remote zone the
> > humankind remained the chosen creature, the first one, the highest among
> the
> > living beings on the Earth. Darwin dethroned the humankind from his
> > privileged position. Like all the living beings, humankind is the result
> of
> > an extremely long process, of a "design without a designer". All the
> living
> > beings, humankind included, were not created as they are and are not
> steady
> > and unchangeable, but evolved starting about 3,8 billion years ago from a
> > remote group of primeval common organisms.
> >
> > Hence all the living organisms are related, and each individual, whatever
> > species it belongs, is unique but it is pervaded by the matter and the
> > processes which compose all the other living beings. The fundamental
> > processes and the control mechanisms are essentially the same in all
> > species; in our genes we have the genes of many other species, even of
> > viruses. And the difficulties and discussions in the science domain on
> the
> > definition of "species" and on the methodology to set the differences
> among
> > the species emphasize this "unitarity".
> >
> > It seems today the humankind is reaching another topic point in this
> > relativization path, since he has the chance to use sciences and
> > technologies to hugely modify some issues which deeply define the "human
> > essence", which becomes basically uncertain. But does this all imply that
> > anthropocentrism is fading out? Or, better, does it imply it will/can
> > disappear?
> >
> > More after.
> >
> > Pier Luigi
> >
> > --
> > Pier Luigi Capucci
> > e-mail: plc@noemalab.org
> > web: http://www.noemalab.org/plc/plc.html
> > skype: plcapucci
> >
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