"still in development". Many of the conversations I shared with people were
about how rich the history and culture was and that there were many leaps
forward to modernisation, particularly arising from Ataturk. Public
education and healthcare are both considered superior to the private
counterparts and free - which imho puts Turkey way ahead of many 'developed'
I was personally very impressed with the government initiative to collect
the bottle tops off water bottles - if you collect 10000 it pays for an
electric wheelchair for a disabled person.
That is my 2 cents :-)
On Wed, Sep 28, 2011 at 8:03 PM, Elif Ayiter <email@example.com> wrote:
> Cynthia, a heartfelt thank you for your correction, to which I will add a
> few words, if you will allow me:
> Contrary to popular belief, what you call "newly engaging more conversation
> with Western Europe/North America...", and what I personally prefer to call
> the process of democratization and secularization of the Ottoman Empire, did
> not start a decade ago or indeed materialize overnight in 1923 with the
> founding of the Turkish Republic, but has its origins in the first half of
> the 19th century, starting with Sultan Mecid and his extensive legal and
> social reforms, for which you can see the wikipedia entry here:
> As for this city "still in development": Here, an estimated 3 million
> people spend weekend nights in an area which is after all only a few square
> miles wide. You have all been there, you have witnessed it with your own
> eyes. Huge, indeed overwhelming crowds, and yet hardly ever a fight, a
> brawl, an incident... And this despite some serious alcohol consumption, I
> might add!
> In this city "still in development", instead of collecting them in
> shelters and then heartlessly putting them down, the city administration
> provides healthcare for its thousands of "city dogs" which are taken care
> of, fed and sheltered by shop keepers and market vendors throughout the
> city. Needless to even say, quite a big budget is set aside in this city
> "still in development" for this task, since the city provided animal
> healthcare includes a yearly booster shot for rabies, which is checked
> through an RFID system implemented through ear tags, with appended mobile
> veterinary teams etc...
> On Tue 27 Sep 2011 16:40:52 EEST, Cynthia Beth Rubin wrote:
> Hi Colette and All
>> I have been part of a few discussions on ISEA2011 on other lists, and it
>> is refreshing to read Colette's positive summary. It makes me wish that I
>> had chosen what to attend more carefully - and i look forward to seeing
>> more about these panels on line. So much to do in so many days - and the
>> compression led to a certain overload at times, that I believe that some of
>> the best discussions to come may take place in the post-isea blogosphere. I
>> plan to create blog for the panel that i chaired, and which ended up being
>> far too compressed for the open discussion that that we now envision. (an
>> aside - we had a free google site for the panel that we had planned to
>> make live after ISE but I discovered that google sites are blocked in
>> Turkey, although most smart Turkish people get around this by putting in an
>> IP address that is from another country)
>> A small correction to your thoughtful post. Turkey is not "still in
>> development" - it is rather newly engaging more conversation with Western
>> Europe/North America. (by new I mean last decade, not just this year).
>> Turkish culture is quite developed, and has been for centuries. I was
>> surprised to find ISEA goers who did not know/remember that less than 100
>> years ago Istanbul was the center of a great Empire with influence that
>> extended throughout Eastern Asia and the Middle East, and into Europe.
>> Several Turkish artists that I spoke with found it distressing that those
>> coming from the countries that are now in power think of Turkey as
>> best wishes,
>> Cynthia Beth Rubin
>> Hi everybody,
>> I have participed to ISEA for the 3rd time (Nagoya, Singapore, Istanbul),
>> and it is still a big event in many ways and not only in quantity but in
>> the quality of programm and discussions. It is an amazing brainstorming
>> where people from so many countries can exchange about so many medias and
>> practices, and in addition get some thinking, theories, and perspectives
>> about electronic and digital tools and culture.
>> Some little things that I can say :
>> - it was so important to cross electronic art (ISEA) and contemporary art
>> (Istanbul biennal) in a place, it means in a city, and a city as Istanbul ,
>> that is still in development, and at the junction of Europe and Asia... Now
>> we have to know where can be the junctions between these practices : are
>> they so different, are they in the same fields, are they in different
>> economies, how to think their environment, technics, modes of production
>> and diffusion ? We can see that the exhibitions for the practices and
>> conferences for the theory are still the way to present them. In which kind
>> of public area, in which modes of knowledge and culture can we share our
>> experiments and creation, thinking and theory ? Can it be a way to explore
>> the future of isea ? Can it be a way to invent some new tools, new objects
>> (as things), new spaces ? For example, I was very interested by the
>> experimentation by the Collectif Nunc www.nunc.com to explore the rôle
>> of the catalogue as a way of knowledge, and creation ; and it is only one
>> - I was very interesseted too by the Mediterranean forum on digital
>> culture, and the links with the arabic revolution. It was such appropriate
>> to speak about that in an other mediterranean country, and to learn about
>> how people used the digital and global media in one part of the world, that
>> could be seen as a local revolution, but concerning the total humanity. And
>> also it would be great to follow the discussion, cause : the revolution is
>> going on and needs to be thinked to be realized, and new models seem to be
>> necessary to invent. But, in that way, it is not only a local problem, but
>> a global, if we think to the difficulties that each country can have with
>> the economic crise. New medias could help to these non institutionnal
>> exchanges. And help to find ways to invent a virtual global public space
>> At the end I want to think all the people that organized this ISEA, and
>> above all to think Baruch Gotlieb who was my panel chair about The
>> persistence of hardware. I think we have open the beginning of a discussion
>> about the electronic and digital environment that concern material, energy,
>> production, economy, culture… that it would be important to follow and to
>> developp cause it is a very crucial question in the use of these technology
>> and its consequences, that is not so immaterial…
>> Regards to all
>> Colette Tron
>> Marseille, France
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