This discussion is gradually moving in circles around certain key issues. I
think the questions that are emerging are about real depth of *audience
engagement,* the *radical* potential of these new technologies of mapping
and location (Daphne and Roger) also see;
Brian Holmes Drifting Through the Grid (
http://www.springerin.at/dyn/heft_text.php?textid=1523&lang=en) and the *
quality* of existing examples of interventions. This is also true of the
use of urban screens and integrated technologies in architectural surfaces,
as raised by Iouliani (I would cite the work of Art+Com for examples of
subtle uses of such embedded technology in public space).
I do feel we need a longer period of artistic development and better
tool-sets for artists to realise this potential, Locative media has only
been around for about 8 years as an accessible technology and has really
only gone mainstream for the last five. That is a very short period to
realise outstanding work artistically, or even to integrate coherent
artistic vision into public demonstrations. At present artists can
principally use mscape (http://www.mscapers.com/) - a technology tied until
recently only to Windows Mobile phones or construct their own iphone apps.
There are other freeware solutions out there , but none for artists as easy
to adapt as digital music or video software technologies. So please keep the
examples coming, particularly at the sharp end of mapping interventions. The
overhyping of emergent technologies is not a new phenomenon, but is
invariably followed by a period of disappointment, which really masks the
process of consolidation, which I believe is what is happening at present.
On Tue, Jul 27, 2010 at 11:35 AM, Iouliani Theona <email@example.com>wrote:
> > Dear all,
> > travelling around the Greek periphery, throughout small cities, I found
> > hard to participate in this –extremely interesting- discussion due,
> > to connectivity issues. I couldn't help but wonder, if in this country,
> > the southeast of Europe, the 'space of flows' is far from a continuum,
> > what can be said about the actual process of urban hybridization?
> > Having a more design-oriented background I was –and still remain-
> > interested in the incorporation of interfaces in persistent architectural
> > forms, such as buildings and especially public spaces, thinking this is a
> > proper and rather efficient way to reach large groups of citizens and
> > various social groups, without the need of rather expensive mobile
> > and access to high bandwidth networks, that support some locative media.
> > So, we went from urban screens, to fabrics, to membranes, to smart
> > –building- skins, to projections and to any sort of manipulation of the
> > available surfaces…
> > … but what have we learned from Prada? As much as Lev Manovich (The
> > of Augmented Space: Learning from Prada (2002),
> > http://www.manovich.net/TEXTS_07.HTM) was optimistic while authoring
> > Poetics of Augmented Space', it can be claimed that after a cycle of
> > experimentation, not much is left.
> > Maybe it is a matter of the limitations of the screen, maybe it's due to
> > the content that is displayed and how it is related to the actual
> > architecture itself, its use and its internal processes, the majority of
> > such interfaces don't succeed in intriguing the potential user out of her
> > daily routine, to engage her in novel spatial experiences and
> > and are gradually rendered invisible.
> > So what's in store?
> > Content in a surface is a retinal object and therefore is easily
> > intelligible. Efforts towards a more invisible hybridization pose, yet
> > again, questions that are very well articulated by Daphne in her 16/7
> > contribution, about how can such projects be used to involve/address
> > different social groups, other than a technologically privileged and
> > advanced class.
> > Kind regards,
> > Iouliani Theona
> Iouliani Theona
> Architect/PhD Candidate
> NTUA Athens
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