Wednesday, April 15, 2009

Re: [Yasmin_discussions] social simulation software

ana

thanks for pointing to the gallery of scientific simulations
as an astronomer I liked the simulation of galaxy formation=
particularly because the choice of rendering goes counter
to usual scientific visualisation

take a look at :
http://www.tacc.utexas.edu/research/gallery/pages/17.php

coming back to simulations and feedback on human behaviour
one of the questions is whether there is anything new here= predictions
have always affected human behaviour ( eg christian threats of going
to hell)

one thing that is new as someone pointed out is the smart mobs
argument that internet
interactive connectivity provides feedback loops with so much
shorter time/connectivity- and this connects to the mind at large
arguments of Bateson and
others- jim gimzewski has been talking about this topic too

the other thing that is new is the way that social simulation systems
can drill down to individuals= i think i already mentioned on yasmin the
discussion that Barabasi had at Mutamorphosis in Prague about his
work on data from a database of GPS data collected from individuals
cell phones= he said that if he took his GPS location data from
the last 6 months he good create a really good simulation of his
own geographic behaviour - and then he could predict where he would be in
ten days at a given time. The simulation of course is able to create
predictions that are 90% reliable because we all live very regular cycles
of behaviour- with occasional departure for exotic unpredictable vacations
(but if you look at social aggregates you can even make predictions of
where you will take a vacation given your social connections etc)

the down side of this of course is that the commercial world is using
these kinds of social simulations to target advertising data and the
dark side of our governments use it to create guild by association
deductions

roger

On Mon, Apr 13, 2009 at 7:39 PM, ana boa-ventura
<anaventura@mail.utexas.edu> wrote:
> Dear Roger and all,
>
> (still in the context of social simulation and advanced visualization of
> natural phenomena.)
>
> So glad you brought up disaster preparedness re:social simulation. For those
> interested in the topic, take a look at this image
> http://www.tacc.utexas.edu/research/gallery/pages/12.php
> Briefly, through super computers at the Texas Advanced Computing Center
> (UTAustin), researchers ran 30 forecasts (rather than one.) for each
> prediction of hurricane Ike hitting coastal communities (specifically
> Galveston, Texas).
> Super-computer Ranger (it is Texas after allJ) crunched the data that
> allowed the previous image and others you can see in TACC's gallery
> http://www.tacc.utexas.edu/research/gallery/visGallery.php
>
> If as you say, Roger (and I agree)
>>social simulation systems will presumably result in modification of
> behaviour= in the same way that we dont interact directly with the climate-
> but simulations of climate change are leading to changes in social
> behaviour.
>
> ...then in a way, most (all?) advanced visualization imagery of natural
> phenomena has some impact, in the mid/long term, in some type of social
> behavior .  Besides disaster preparedness, any other examples out there that
> folks would like to share?
>
> Ana Boa-Ventura
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: yasmin_discussions-bounces@estia.media.uoa.gr
> [mailto:yasmin_discussions-bounces@estia.media.uoa.gr] On Behalf Of roger
> malina
> Sent: Sunday, April 12, 2009 3:30 PM
> To: YASMIN DISCUSSIONS
> Subject: [Yasmin_discussions] social simulation software
>
>  Dear Ana Boa-Ventura
>
> Your comment about:
> I think the problem with discussing this topic stems from what at a first
> glance may seem like a paradox as social simulation systems don't
> (generally) involve interaction. To that extent, we sort of freeze when we
> try to identify references to the user's behavior (or at least I doJ)
>
> Is of course correct, and the smart mob examples as well as computer games
> with social simulations embedded are the obvious exception (thanks for the
> children of arcadia example) =but in a larger sense  as we develop social
> simulation systems this will presumably result in modification of behaviour=
> in the same way that we dont interact directly with the climate- but
> simulations of climate change are leading to changes in social behaviour.
>
> Another area of course where social simulation software is used in is
> various kinds of training systems and these it seem to me have interesting
> cultural connotations, These kinds of systems are used by disaster relief
> agencies I think, and of course the military.
>
> roger
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