Monday, January 17, 2011

Re: [Yasmin_discussions] Around Simulation II - Simulated Senses and the Un-Simulatable

Dear All,

Hope you are doing well. Looking forward to another wonderful discussion! Every
time we think something cannot be simulated, it turns out that maybe we what is un-simulatable now? Imagination? Intuition?

As we await the first reactions, let me put forward my personal questions as an
opening teaser that you are free to ignore if in the meantime other interesting
things have been posted :)

Today I spent three hours in a meeting with people who have experience with
hallucinations and delusions, diagnosed as psychotic or schizophrenic, as you
might remember, as an artist I am trying to simulate the subjective experience
of this extreme mental state with a kind of Digital the sense of
self, sense of time and space, and sense of reality play an important role, but
shall we consider such senses in this discussion?

One of the conclusions of the advisers who were present, was that I should aim
to simulate Telepathy (the idea that you can insert thoughts into others and
that they can do that to you). A phenomenon considered as a key symptom. In
psychosis one often feels a connection to the world, and that all information
comes in at a high speed on a kind of wired network. Now I ask myself and put
this question forward to you. How might we simulate a so called 'six sense' such
as Telepathy?

And another murmur....computers can read the mind of other computers...and
transfer over a distance. How is remote sensing by computers different than that
of humans sensing each other in a room?

Oh, and one more reference, there is a professor that seems to be able to
simulate the sense of presence with what is often refered to as The God Helmet:


Jennifer Kanary Nikolov(a)

"1) The un-simulatable. Is all simulatable? Maybe not all can be simulated and
there are realms that can only be partially simulated or that can't be simulated
at all. Do they exist? What are them? And why they can't be simulated?

2) The simulation of the senses - and in particular of the other senses than
sight and hearing - in the communication and artistic processes. It is an
important topic, for instance in the mediated and remote communication."
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