And we cannot forget the creation/simulation of reality depends on previous
simulations/super-extension of our senses we made. Here, the amazing and
powerful "*Thermo Quantum Discovery* LC/MS/MS System" - the most robust and
sensitive triple quadrupole in its class:
http://www.ietltd.com/inventory.jsp?id=944
It is interesting as well, to take a look in the inventory available at the
"International Equipament Tranding" website:
http://www.ietltd.com/inventory.jsp
The super-machines can "help" in to run "small sacale simulations" and think
about, for instance, "Adiabatic quantum optimization":
http://arxiv.org/abs/0908.2782
And we can discuss everything in a realm where "all is composed of
references with no referents", a hyperreality:
http://arstechnica.com/science/news/2010/06/magic-quantum-wand-does-not-vanish-hard-maths.ars
Here, there and everywhere…
Clarissa
2011/1/25 xDxD.vs.xDxD <xdxd.vs.xdxd@gmail.com>
> hello roger and all,
>
> On Sat, Jan 22, 2011 at 12:35 PM, roger malina <rmalina@alum.mit.edu>
> wrote:
> > I would like to make the assertion that relying on digital simulations
> > is creating
> > a situation where we focus primarily on processes that are theoretically
> > simulatable or computable=
> > whereas there are many other processes that are just not
> > simulatable and there is a danger that we are developing huge blind spots
> > (similarly there are parts of the universe that are theoretically
> unobservable
> > eg the interior of a black hole, or the universe further away than
> > light could travel since the birth of the universe)
> >
> > the work of artists , with its emphasis on triggering subjective
> > experience.and exploitation of phenomena that may be unsimulatable may
> > open up interesting
> > areas of research that computer scientists are not focused on
> >
> > are there any examples ?
>
>
> we need cognitive scientists or/and some more anthropologists! :)
>
> as this is a problem that is truly similar to the international
> discussion on "how do we go beyond ethnographical writing?"
>
> or: anthropological reports are an incomplete simulation. They
> represent the point of view of the anthropologist and, in that, they
> are, allow me to make it simple, novels. With that i do not mean that
> they "are not good", i just mean that they are "incomplete", as we
> know since the works of Mead and Bateson that "completeness" is a
> concept that is somewhat awkward to define, and probabily the key to
> describing it is to let it describe itself, by not trying to define it
> and by finding ways in which the multiplicity of voices and
> perceptions, and the network of relations, and their evolution in time
> and space can express themselves. And also getting ready to accept
> that a "system" (self-)described in this way is not coherent, static,
> or objective. As roger said: there is not shortcut.
>
> yet again the most interesting parts (for me, obviously :) )of the
> scientific research in this field are those that are creating a
> short-circuit between "the map and the territory", by using the
> territory (and its inhabitants, and cultures, and relations, and
> expressions...) as the map itself through technologies that allow both
> reading, writing and interpreting the world in its "entirety" (at
> least theoretically, as it would require *everything/everyone* to be
> technologically connected). In this perspective: the simulation of the
> system is the system itself and, thus, can become simulatable.
>
> ciao!
> s
>
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