Sunday, January 30, 2011

Re: [Yasmin_discussions] Around Simulation II - Simulating Empathyand Subjective Experience

Dera Natasha, dear Yasmin,

the issue of what makes AI alive is a great question.

In Unified Theories of Cognition, Allen Newell defines intelligence as: the degree to which a system approximates a knowledge-level system.
Perfect intelligence is defined as the ability to bring all the knowledge a system has at its disposal to bear in the solution of a problem (which is synonymous with goal achievement).

A natural question to ask about symbols and representation is what is a symbol? Allen Newell considered this question in Unified Theories of Cognition. He differentiated between symbols (the phenomena in the abstract) and tokens (their physical instantiations). Tokens "stood for" some larger concept.
http://ai.eecs.umich.edu/cogarch0/common/theory.html

... also scientist discover in this elegant model by Garrett Lisi may at last reveal the link between gravity and the other fundamental forces of nature.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-xHw9zcCvRQ

As expert and deep research of AI Structured Activities', goals keeper for knowledge achievement, develops vertically. Within this, single 'Activities' expanding horizontally.

In the theory of Social Semantic Search Engine Competition designed under knowledge symbolism competitiveness shape in motion change color but:

Shapes (Member) shown in the same color are similar.
Shapes (Member) shown in the same shape and different color are similar.

fori suggest to stream the following video in large option, it is 30 minutes video but more easy for you to understand how AI start to be alive with a simulator, or better say with a case history that include many aspect in the today competition.
http://gallery.me.com/apollo29#100164

simulator and prototype: http://www.stargossip.gr/newlifes/
dokuviki: http://www.stargossip.gr/dokuwiki/doku.php


Paolo

On Jan 28, 2011, at 8:20 PM, Jennifer Kanary Nikolov(a) wrote:

> Dear Natasha,
>
> You write:
>
> "Empathy may be the most needed and also the most difficult experiential
> behavior to obtain. To have empathy an agent needs to understand the thoughts,
> feelings and state of another agent/person. To have empathy then, the agent
> would also have to have "personhood." So, what is personhood if it is not to be
> alive, self-awareness, and able to make decisions. How can something make
> decisions if it is not alive and self-aware? Certainly AI makes decisions and
> interacts with its environment, but not alive. So the issue is what makes AI
> alive?"
>
> Here I would like to refer to my reaction to Simon (not sure in which order my
> posts will appear), containing the question by Sejnowski "When will the Internet
> become aware of itself." and the reference to the evolution of the internet as
> resembling bio-evolution.
>
> I often wonder if my computer is empathic with my moods because it is connected
> to the internet. In a sense mimicking my moods. It seems all too often, when I
> am angry, it refuses to communicate, when I calm down, it works again. When
> nothing else changed but my emotion in time. Is my computer the 'body part' of
> the internet that is its 'mind'?
>
> How does the internet make decisions, and what are the senses of the internet?
>
> I remember well, Roger Malina's question posed to me at Trondheim's Making
> Reality Really Real conference, if I believed that computers also know Madness.
> My intuition says that they do...Madness, we might say, is when the senses are
> flooded and one cannot filter anything out anymore, as everything seems equally
> important and connected. What if madness is the beginning, from where the
> filters, our senses, start to evolve...starting to make us alive?
>
> Where is the madness in the Internet? If it is aware or might become aware, how
> does the internet make decisions, and what are the senses of the internet?
> Perhaps then, we will find simulation of subjective experience and empathy.
> Perhaps it is already there.
>
>
> Jennifer
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