Monday, May 30, 2011

[Yasmin_discussions] Fwd: Re : Art Agency, and its Constitution :ANNOUNCING YASMIN DISCUSSION


Thanks for your response from tunisia- indeed in discussing the
questions of the possible " constitutions" of art and science in society
it can be argued as you do that we
need to think of art and science together

A constitution normally includes a pre amble that establishes
basic principles

Some engineering societies for example have an oath of
the engineer


There are also proposals for oaths for scientists - eg the american
association for advancement of science

Are there similar discussions in the art world of an oath for artists ?

an interesting challenge for an art science constitution would be to
esablish the
shared values that would be implemented in a constitution, and a first step
would be an oath=mind you its not clear the engineering oath has had any
impact-but the discussion it stirs up is vital


wafa what was the role of scientists or engineers in the tunisian revolution ?

---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: wafa bourkhis <>
Date: Sun, May 29, 2011 at 10:43 PM
Subject: [Yasmin_discussions] Re : Art Agency, and its Constitution

HelloThanks Roger for invitationwhen i saw the announcement about the
two questions, i had one question in my mind: can we separate science
and art in this era?
simple answer :nowhen we say art and its constitution or science we
cannot find the difference between, because since the creation of the
WWW we can't ask these question. The cyberspace can gather scientists
and artists in the same constitution of the internet virtual
territories.By the creation of Yasmin network, art is very related to
science in this mediterranean of the internet network
that was made by scientists...  So there is no boundaries between
artists and scientists in the two borders of real mediterranean
basin...These virtual territories can present only one constitution
for the two : art and science...To be continuedWafa
--- En date de : Dim 29.5.11, roger malina <> a écrit :

De: roger malina <>
Objet: [Yasmin_discussions] Art Agency, and its Constitution
Date: Dimanche 29 mai 2011, 14h16

Art Agency,and its Constitution .
Science Agency and its Constitution

 G. H. Rabbath;Doctor of Philosophy, Human Sciences, and
 Associate Professor at Université Saint-Joseph, Beirut, Lebanon .

This year the Venice Biennial:
promises to be the most successful ever with a record of national
participation despite the last minute withdrawal of some Middle
 -Eastern countries like Lebanon.  One of the 5 questions that artistic
 director Bice Curriger asked all the participating artists is: "If art were
 a nation, what would its constitution be?"

 The current turn of events in the MENA countries will change the face
 of the region for ever. New media is viewed as the critical factor in
 creating political and social change.

Have new media, and social media reached a critical point
where they can help build a country from the bottom-up, or can they only
topple governements for the moment? What is the
relation with contemporary art practices? Is there still a
possibility for individual agency through new media and
art, and is the Biennial format  the last place to explore new
political models?

In keeping with the YASMIN aim to network artists and
scientists around the Mediterranean, we propose to couple
the discussion to the related question.

Science Agency and its Constitution. "If Science were a Nation,
what would its constitution be?"

Here are some of the web sites :


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