Tuesday, March 3, 2009

Re: [Yasmin_discussions] artist as inventors

Excellent post Roger.

Patents are a complex, highly involved process requiring legal counsel and
court processing, which are time consuming and costly. To train a fine
artist in this field could be like herding cats. The patenting process,
requires viable, clearly distinguishable, engineered specs to prove to a
court that the product to be patented is unique. Then I would have to
always protect that patent because there are packs of wolves ready to
infringe on the patent.

But here a 5-year old got a patent on his idea:

<http://www.ipo.gov.uk/about/press/press-release/press-release-2008/press-re
lease-20080417.htm
>
http://www.ipo.gov.uk/about/press/press-release/press-release-2008/press-rel
ease-20080417.htm

The line between expression and invention is the "invention".
<http://www.ipwatchdog.com/inventing/patent-ideas/>
http://www.ipwatchdog.com/inventing/patent-ideas/

<http://natasha@natasha.cc> Natasha Vita-More

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Subject: [Yasmin_discussions] artist as inventors

Dear yasminers

I wish to state the great interest I have had in reading the responses
around the subject of Artist as inventors as well as the immense frustration
it has brougth me.

As an artist involved in technology, I feel there is a difference betheen
invention and creation.
Inventions belongs to the scientific world where as creations is closer to
what the artist produces. Not to say that inventions are not creative,But
where an invention can be creative it is not always true that creation can
be an invention.

The invention of the washing machine, the automobile or aircraft were great
practical inventions on which design was applied and they all served
humanity in the every day life. Not to mention the huge economical side of
it.

The strength of artistic creation has always been on its powerfull
metaphorical content to express life and natural phenomenas in their
physical, social, psychological aspects. The EAT experience which I had the
opportunity to take part in 1969 was a culmination Kinetic Art, centered
primarely around mechanical objects. Many of them were fascinating but I
regret to say were not inventions as such but rather innovative applications
of exhisting technologies and definitly great metaphors. Most of the
artists had classical art backgrounds.
Nowadays technology has become a lot more sophisticated with the advent of
physics, computers, electronics, biochemicals, nanotechnology and so on.
Many contempory artists have scientific background as part of their
formation. Thus my frustrations ! Laugth

But the collaboration between art and science remains quite difficult.
My own experience has been that the scientific and technological world agree
to some joint venture only if the artist idea can illustrate or bring a
different view on the use of the scientific or technological inventions.

Many scientific models, some of which I had the chance to discover at some
of the MIT labs in 1970, regarded as mere models of scientific phenemenas (
such as the motion of elctron around a nucleous) could well have been
considered as art work.
Having seen a number of science museum in different countries around the
world , it is my profound conviction that these museums could or should well
be considered the Art Museums of the near future.

Have I digressed from the original topic ?

Best

Roger Vilder
www.rogervilder.com
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