Re: [Yasmin_discussions] ARTISTS AS INVENTORS ON YASMIN ---Moderator's Introduction

May I suggest that it is the intention behind the creation/invention
that defines the nature of the invention - is it to be a commercial
product or a disruptive idea?

Having recently patented a lighting invention, the art invention process
is coupled with the intention of creating a marketable product - it is
then more like design and applied art, rather than fine or experimental
art. It also involves being entrepreneurial and venturing into IP
protection, licensing, manufacturing processes, eco considerations etc.
One of the problematic areas is the cost of patenting and possible
protection which can be impossible if a large company decides to simply
copy your idea.

Examples of "Art-related inventions into systems of law" might be the
groups etoy and RTMark, artists who exploit commercial ideologies and
processes with disruptive effect:

"etoy.CORPORATION is all about sharing: knowledge, skills, risk,
excitement, resources, social networks, art, technology and cultural
profits. etoy goes where traditional artists, companies and individuals
cannot afford to go.
etoy is art and invests all resources in the production of more art. The
firm represents the core and code of the corporate sculpture. It
controls, protects, promotes, and exploits the cultural substance
(intellectual property / etoy trademark) and the etoy.ART-COLLECTION.
etoy intends to reinvest all financial earnings in art - the final link
in the value chain.

http://www.etoy.com/

RTMark group host many interventionist projects and supported etoy in a
legal battle between etoys.com over the website name etoy.com/
http://www.rtmark.com/etoymain.html

"What does ®TMark do?
®TMark receives project ideas from internet users, then lists them
(here). Each listed project has its own discussion list (linked from the
project). When a project requires a bit of funding to be accomplished,
sometimes investors will step up to the plate and offer their help. Even
more often, people will offer non-financial help or feedback"

Regards,
Richard Brown

Bronac Ferran wrote:
> Thanks for the helpful response Robert and look forward to the discussion
> unfolding.
>
> With respect to design, perhaps it will be useful to discuss this at some
> stage responding to the initial question:
>
> 4. How is an art-related invention different from an invention that is not
> tied to the conventions of art? How is an art-related invention
> different from invention in other fields?
>
> As the month progresses a topic that will be of interest to me would to see
> if the conversion or integration of what you are calling art-related
> inventions into systems of law have involved the redefinition of the work as
> a piece of design (as of course art is constrained by copyright not
> patenting or design/trademarks). So the question would at what point does
> the shift in terminology also change the nature of the work?
> Thanks.
> all best
> Bronac
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