Our knowledge of global and local events is not of a personal experience
anymore, it is heavily based on digital media : Facebook, Twitter. Google,
CNN, Wikileaks etc. as Jean Baudrillard suggested:" The Middle east
revolution Did Not Take Place" for most of us it existed more as images on
computer, cell phone and TV screens than personal experience, that most of
the decisions and occurrences in the revolution were based on perceived
data coming from internet, images, sounds and news, than from actual
seen-with-the-eye experience.
The question in simulacra or Cimulacra (C=speed of light communication) era,
is what really are the "possibilities and freedoms of expression and on
creating the conditions for sustainable forms of expression"? And what is
"personal expression intellectual property and data/information
ownership"?...
Avi.
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Hi Avi,
global internet operators are, indeed, an interesting example of "next step
publishers", i totally agree to that. yet in their actions they completely
miss a series of points for what concerns the possibility (and freedoms, by
the way) of expression and on creating the conditions for sustainable forms
of expression.
first of all the issues concerning intellectual property and
data/information ownership, and of censorship and openness.
and then: while all these services enact entire new scenarios for personal
expression (and they assume the role of next-step-publishers in this) their
strategies focus a lot more on people working for free on their platforms.
these operators seem more like next-step-governments (or
next-step-bureaucracies, or next-step-global-city-administrations) than
next-step-publishers, at least for what concerns their core businesses.
it seems to me that really interesting scenarios for publishing live more
"on top" of these operators.
As ethics change and the idea of "sharing" becomes a central component of
the idea of "value", and as networks complete their action in creating one
single, global, city-nation-metropolis that is layered on top of the world,
in which countries, local administrations and governments start to loose all
meanings and powers, global operators turn into the new administrations and
governments.
i think it was remarkable observing how Google handled the debate with
China(!) about censorship: it was a diplomatic dialogue!
as in all the scenarios opened up by augmented cities, senseable cities,
living cities and all the others, the place for publishers will probably sit
"on top" of the ecosystem created by these "new countries" (which, actually,
overlap: which is another interesting point for analysis), layering
autonomous forms of expression on them.
if this process is open and accessible, and if it is designed with
ethnography and cultural anthropology in mind, it can create entirely new
layers of information and narratives, bringing forth new forms of awareness
(to the environment, energy, emotions, economy...) together with new forms
of stories and, if openness, accessibility and freedoms are a focus in this
process, also with new tolerant, free forms of expressions.
In this for example, i find both radically provocative and very interesting
the comment made earlier on by Natasha, as it points out a real
transformation of "self" inside a networked humanity. While i do not share
many of the points of view of transhumanism, i find very interesting and
stimulating the idea of suggesting a complete change/mutation.
and i also the ideas of multiple, autonomous-yet-networked
individuals/groups in the examples by Simone, Roger and Massimo as new forms
of "eyes" which not only produce new "visions", but also produce new
"environments" and "imaginaries" for visions layered and interconnectable on
top of a digital-analog world.
in this: the scenario suggested by large operators such as Facebook, using
centralized databases, closedness, inacessibility, censorship and the lack
of sustainability models (both cultural and economic) for the participants
is a *big* problem. And, again, it is not so much about publishing: maybe
more about government.
best,
Salvatore
On Wed, Feb 16, 2011 at 7:01 AM, Avi Rosen <avi@siglab.technion.ac.il>wrote:
> Hi Luca,
> I believe that the internet hubs such as "Google", "Yahoo", "Facebook"
> etc. are the future (present) publishers, while encompassing global
> data base they provide individually tailored content exemplar,
> according to surfer's preferences and browsing history (including
> references of Google Scholar 4 scientific content ...)
> http://www.artciencia.com/Admin/Ficheiros/AVIROSEN191.pdf
> A.
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: yasmin_discussions-bounces@estia.media.uoa.gr
> [mailto:yasmin_discussions-bounces@estia.media.uoa.gr] On Behalf Of
> Luca Simeone
> Sent: Tuesday, February 15, 2011 10:39 PM
> To: YASMIN DISCUSSIONS
> Subject: Re: [Yasmin_discussions] Next Step Publishing: FakePress
> Statement
>
> Hi Avi & yasminers,
>
> I see your point. What we also see though is that in some cases
> publishing strategies are still partially driven by specific editorial
> processes. For example, as John Wilbanks argues in a recent post
> published on
> http://seedmagazine.com/content/article/on_science_publishing
> the distribution of scientific content is still strongly tied to
> traditional processes even though it has obviously changed because of
> what you call cyber-aura.
> Publishers and the evaluation / editorial processes they set up and
> organize are still an important component in selecting, packaging and
> distributing scientific content. So, again, we see that some elements
> from the traditional author/publisher relation are still alive and
> they still profoundly affect the distribution of scientific knowledge.
>
> Is this a value to save in the future? What will be the role of
> publishers in the future? Will there be a new configuration where
> horizontal processes (with no aura) cross vertical processes backed by
some sort of authorities?
>
> I guess this is our big question mark with FakePress!
>
> Ciao
> l
>
>
>
> On Tue, Feb 15, 2011 at 9:34 AM, Avi Rosen <avi@siglab.technion.ac.il>
> wrote:
> > Hi Luca & yasminers.
> >
> > " in (an auratic?) specific time and space"...
> >
> >
> > When time-space is no longer experienced in Euclidian manner, the
> > gap between traditional publishing and individual content distribution
> > vanishes, as content rolls past the PC, tablet, or cellular display
> > according to our individual preferences and surfing history.
> >
> > At the turn of the twentieth century Paul Valery predicted: "Just as
> > water, gas, and electricity are brought into our houses from far off
> > to satisfy our need in response to a minimal effort, so we shall be
> > supplied with visual or auditory images, which will appear and
> > disappear at a simple movement of the hand, hardly more than a sign."
> >
> > This fact led to a dramatic turning-point of the disappearance of
> > the traditional author/publisher, and the birth of the cyber-aura
> > witnessed by the cyber-flâneur (surfer). The meaning of individual
> > cyber publishing and its cyber-aura according to traditional
> > iconological and iconographical tools turned irrelevant. It is now
> > valued according to a system of fuzzy logic, dealing with the
> > concept of partial truth with values ranging between "completely
> > true" and
> "completely false".
> >
> > Avi.
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: yasmin_discussions-bounces@estia.media.uoa.gr
> > [mailto:yasmin_discussions-bounces@estia.media.uoa.gr] On Behalf Of
> > Luca Simeone
> > Sent: Monday, February 14, 2011 10:42 PM
> > To: YASMIN DISCUSSIONS
> > Subject: Re: [Yasmin_discussions] Next Step Publishing: FakePress
> > Statement
> >
> > hi marc and yasminers,
> >
> > well, i guess our point of view is that there are several, multiple
> > competing truths at the same time (or none). traditional publishing
> > processes select, package and distribute information and, in so
> > doing, design specific configurations of reality. fakepress wants to
> > somewhat re-articulate this approach multiplying the layers related
> > to the publishing process. this process (for traditional publishers)
> > was just fixed and determined in (an auratic?) specific time and
> > space. this sort of aura related to the publishing processes was
> > also an important component to shape the authority of the publishers.
> > in some ways, it's like fakepress wants to question both this
> > authority and the idea that the moment of 'printing' / 'publishing'
> > / 'press' is frozen in time and space. but, at the same time, we
> > don't want to abandon the idea and the role of publishers if seen in
> > a more open way. we still think that there is room for cultural
> > bodies that select, package and distribute information, especially
> > in this historical moment where the quantity of information will
> > keep increasing
> exponentially.
> >
> > fakepress looked like an oxymoron that represent our internal (and
> > not yet
> > resolved) tension.
> >
> > ciao!
> >
> > luca
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
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