negation of limits between virtual territories and real ones.
The fist step is the coming age of the metaverse that will be a
unification of all virtual wolds such as Sollipsis projects
The second step is the French project
Idenum, that broke the frontiers between the web and the real identity
--- En date de : Ven 12.2.10, Pier Luigi Capucci <plc@noemalab.org> a écrit :
De: Pier Luigi Capucci <plc@noemalab.org>
Objet: Re: [Yasmin_discussions] Around Simulation - A Final Thought
À: "YASMIN DISCUSSIONS" <yasmin_discussions@estia.media.uoa.gr>
Date: Vendredi 12 Février 2010, 17h40
Dear Natasha,
thank you for your inspiring post, which emphasizes the importance of art and artists, so arriving / returnunig to the starting and (maybe) the final point of our discussion.
Sharing your interests in "future humans, bio-synthetic life, NBIC enhancement, and radical life extension", yes, I think with you it should be important to go through some kind of theory of simulation.
Best,
Pier Luigi
Il giorno 11/feb/2010, alle ore 19.02, Natasha Vita-More ha scritto:
> "We shall not cease from exploration
> And the end of all our exploring
> Will be to arrive where we started
> And know the place for the first time."
>
> Thus wrote T.S. Eliot [1] in "Little Gidding", No. 4 of Four Quartets
> (1968).
>
> In a world of artistic exploration which takes the artist from the beginning
> of a body of work and around and back to that beginning, it is also the
> observer who travels together with the body of art itself. This links to
> the cybernetics of cybernetics (second order) and to the double-bind theory
> of Gregory Bateson. In Mind and Nature: A Necessary Unity (1979), Bateson
> addresses the patterns that connect us to each other and the environment in
> an ecology of thinking that locates the patterns of thinking about thinking.
>
> Which is the real you, the real environment, the real situation, and which
> interpretation, of many interpretations, holds current and significant value
> for your duration in real time or simulated time-space?
>
> The interdependency of actions and actors do matter because, as artists, we
> address them each and every moment. There is no need to quantify a truth
> within them, for that is left to the hard sciences. Yet, we engage a
> certain truth in large part by emotive-driven reasoning and truth is
> fundamental to aesthetics in a rational investigation about life and meaning
> wherein truth is borne.
>
> Simulation has truth, even if its realization is momentary, simply because
> it occurs. Theorizing elements of the occurrence is secondary to the
> immediacy of the experience. Nevertheless, it is the theory of simulation
> that is necessary in an age where alternative universes and synthetic
> systems are suggested to contain personal existence of many types and forms
> of life-biologically derived or otherwise.
>
> To those of us interested in future humans, bio-synthetic life, NBIC
> enhancement, and radical life extension, these issues have great
> significance because the mind/body of neuroscience and simulation are
> getting married and witnessing their union is something that "every
> school.[person] should know" (Bateson). Regardless of the face that the
> Blue Brain [2] simulation is working slowly (and hopes to self-assemble
> neurons to function like a biological brain), attention to relationships of
> neuroscience and simulation affects artistic practice working with
> simulation.
>
> In the biological brain, a simulation is created by interacting neurons.
> Yet, neuroscience "does not know everything there is to know about neurons".
> [3] Nevertheless projects like the Blue Brain involve brain/mind simulation
> which could undoubtedly help to understand the fundamental principles of the
> brain and the visual and semantics of the mind of memory and cognitive
> projection. [4] A future exobody neocortex as a connective human mind could
> modify biological prerequisites with bio-synthetic structure in
> designing/forming experiences.
>
> The necessary unity of mind and nature, real-time experience and simulation
> are crucially intertwined. This is an area forthcoming and one which has
> unyielding potential for the simulation of simulation.
>
> [1] T.S. Eliot received the Nobel Prize for Literature. He was the second
> person in recorded time to have referred to transhumanization of humanity in
> his comedy "The Cocktail Party", concerning human behavior and which is
> linked to Alighieri Dante's use of transumanar in the Divine Comedy.
> [2] Noah Sutton's documentary on Markram's Blue Brain Project
> http://thebeautifulbrain.com/2010/02/bluebrain-film-preview/
> [3] John Clark (Extropy chat email list]
> [4] http://seedmagazine.com/content/article/out_of_the_blue/P1/
>
>
> Natasha Vita-More
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