Monday, February 1, 2010

Re: [Yasmin_discussions] simulation

Thank you Roger and Avi, informative and beautiful mterial
adding to this i would suggest

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nIwu5MevZyg

and other similar molecular dynamics simulations

indeed the role of models and representations is central from the circles of Tyco Brae to the elipses of Kepler, the whole plastic, philosophical and scientific importance of figures , specially in an environment as the latin tradition that has been for centuries fully focused on text.
no explicit 2d or 3d strucutre to laws beyond the table of contents

very interesting work has been done in recent times exploring how knowledge in figures (eg in euclid and arquimedes, or mathematical texts in china 2200 years ago) has moved acros time, one fun story that has appeared from recent research is that the edition of the greek text of euclid by Hibert in Leipzig in 1870 or so, the greek text everybody has used and still uses to look into euclid in greek, was based on about 6 greek manuscripts from the 9th century. It has been shown recently that Hibert completely modified the figures to present euclid in standard 19th century geomtircal style, and that in turn propagated the idea that euclid was doing 19th century geometry 2400 years ago, and that nothing had changed, which was more of an ideological porposition than a rendering of the facts

see among many others:

Knorr, W.R. (1996) "The wrong text of Euclid: On Heiberg´s text and its alternatives" Centaurus: International Magazine of the History of Mathematics, Science , and Technology 38: 208-276.

FRANCESCA BRAY, VERA DOROFEEVA-LICHTMANN and GEORGES MÉTAILIÉ
(eds): Graphics and Text in the Production of Technical Knowledge in China:
The Warp and the Weft.(Sinica Leidensia.) xiii, 772 pp. Leiden: Brill, 2007

be well
r


--- On Mon, 2/1/10, Avi Rosen <avi@siglab.technion.ac.il> wrote:

> From: Avi Rosen <avi@siglab.technion.ac.il>
> Subject: Re: [Yasmin_discussions] simulation
> To: "'YASMIN DISCUSSIONS'" <yasmin_discussions@estia.media.uoa.gr>
> Date: Monday, February 1, 2010, 2:38 AM
> Tnx Roger,
> It's interesting to compare between the simulation of star
> evolving, and the image of rose in 'brain in a
> supercomputer'
> http://www.ted.com/talks/lang/eng/henry_markram_supercomputing_the_brain_s_secrets.html
> Is it an algorithms running on electrical nets?
> " On April 27, 1992, the sculptor Ezra Orion directed the
> performance "SUPER CATHEDRAL I", http://www.orbit.zkm.de/?q=node/108  aiming laser
> beams perpendicularly and simultaneously around the world up
> to the sky and the infinity of the universe. This action is
> the final detachment of sculpture from the physicality that
> had governed it from prehistory, towards immense energy
> fields at the speed of light. The laser beams left the Solar
> System in five hours; today they are 18 light years from
> Earth. The laser beams join the cathedral of radio waves
> broadcast from Earth, and their height is around 90 light
> years. Orion proposed a continuation of this project, to be
> called "SUPER CATHEDRAL 4″ aiming for a unique
> interstellar cosmic arrangement. According to the laws of
> Riemann's non-Euclidian geometry, eventually the laser beam
> will execute a Moebius-strip-like loop in space, and return
> to its origin: the artist's body and consciousness. The
> transmitted galactic laser beam loop creates compression of
> space and time while uniting between space-time, subject
> (artist), and object (art)."
>
> Avi.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: yasmin_discussions-bounces@estia.media.uoa.gr
> [mailto:yasmin_discussions-bounces@estia.media.uoa.gr]
> On Behalf Of roger malina
> Sent: א 31 ינואר 2010 23:40
> To: YASMIN DISCUSSIONS
> Subject: [Yasmin_discussions] simulation
>
> yasminers
>
> in astronomy the two most succesful simulations are those
> of the evolution of a star from birth in the gas between
> the stars
> to its death after exhausting its nuclear fuel=there are
> numerous
> stellar evolution simulations available on line ( google
> stellar evolution
> simulation)=pretty amazing =just click and watch
>
> and the other is evolution of structure in the universe
>
> here for instance is how a star evolves in temperature and
> brightness
> calculated from a stellar evolution model= this star had
> the mass of the sun
> and ends as a white dwarf
>
> http://rainman.astro.illinois.edu/ddr/stellar/cgi-bin/output/movie0416531.mpg
>
> this kind of simulation takes into account all the nuclear
> physics we know
> and the physics of radiation transfer and opacity. 
> amazingly succesful fit.
> (but a gigantic unresolved mystery)
>
> here is a simulation of evolution of structure in the
> universe
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uY24JAUsy5s
> we have a really coherent description of the evolution of
> structure of
> the universe (except for the fact that 97% of the content
> is dark matter
> and dark energy, both of an unknown nature)
>
> in both of these cases the simulations have status as
> 'tested hypotheses"
>
> in both cases the simulation is presented as visual
> output-=in one
> case a dynamic  graph and the other a video
>
> the fact that simulations have to be converted to visual
> output
> (or sonified) introduces very strange biases in how the
> simulation
> is displayed and interpreted-we tend to over emphasise
> structure even if its
> a very small effect to guide the eye
>
> the scientific method itself is changing, as simulations
> acquire
> the status of explanations
>
> roger
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