maybe i am misunderstood. i do not see any irony at all in what this article
tells us. on the contrary, i sent this article to show how far the notion of
"cyborg" can go; actually, i was deeply shocked when i read the content. i
am the one who first took the discussion to the military realm in order to
remind that life is not all about art, creativity and technology...
by the way, i think no war can be presented as politically correct...
one last point with my apologies. if there is a mechanization dimension in
the notion of cyborg, one should also think about equality in employment.
there is a very serious economical crisis going on in the world. if
cyborgness will add superiority to prospective employees and be subject of
priority, is it really fair to become/make half/full cyborgs? what about
people who do not have access, and more importantly enough money to be
operated to take advantage of the "positive" cyborg features richly listed
in previous messages? does the pitiless and money-driven logic prevail here
too?
anyway, i think i should stop at this point since it seems this kind of
content is not welcome...
sincere regards veroniki, thanks for enabling to avoid misunderstandings:)
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2009/7/22 Veroniki Korakidou <vkorakidou@yahoo.gr>
> Dear Murat, Ekmel and all,
>
> I was enjoying this discussion, until I saw this article...does this mean
> that a non- anthropocentric (save-the-planet) point of view makes war
> politically correct?
>
> What kind of an emerging rhetoric could possibly so rapidly turn things
> upside down? It is all right to kill each other, as long as our robots are
> enviromentally friendly?
>
> Is this what post-humanism is all aboutt?
>
> In Donna Haraway's "Manifesto for Cyborgs", there was a distinct irony
> about women and the third wave movement, labor turning into services,
> everyobody wired in their machines, the "new" way of production and
> consumption.
>
> However, it is a different issue when we speak of art, of science or
> humanism. I don't actually see any irony in this article.
>
> Maybe I am missing all the fun :-)
>
> All the best
> Veroniki
>
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> Θέμα: [Yasmin_discussions] Flesh-eating military robots turn vegetarian...
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> Ημερομηνία: Τρίτη, 21 Ιούλιος 2009, 11:37
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