An interesting view. It may be the degree of connectivity that creates a cyborg.
A monkey head has been transplanted onto an another monkey body, with a view to perhaps doing the same for a human one day! If such a head is joined to a machine system would this be creating a cyborg or not?
Exchange of organic parts e.g heart tranplants, or 'artifically grown' parts in humans, as is beginning to happen with stem cell biotech, or, use of heart pacemakers to the use of sophisticated medical machine systems for keeping a human body alive when brain dead, may lead to a quandary. What is being added to what?
Do ideas about body, soul and mind come into play?
Alec Robertson
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From: yasmin_discussions-bounces@estia.media.uoa.gr on behalf of Jorge Antunes
Sent: Mon 20/07/2009 12:29
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Subject: Re: [Yasmin_discussions] UDMR
Dear Avi:
Thanks for your interesting comments.
Today, the world of cyborgs is not yet large.
A man driving his car. This set (man+car) is not a cyborg.
A man speaking in a cell phone. This set (man+phone) is not a cyborg.
An aboriginal native hunting with bow and arrow. This set
(aboriginal+bow/arrow) is not a cyborb.
I'm writing in my computer. This set (me+computer) is not a cyborb.
I'm waiting for colaborators to write the *Universal Declaration of Machine
Rights*.
Regards,
Jorge Antunes
2009/7/20 Jorge Antunes <antunes@jorgeantunes.com.br>
> Dear Avi:
>
> Thanks for your interesting comments.
> Today, the world of cyborgs is not yet large.
> A man driving his car. This set (man+car) is not a cyborg.
> A man speaking in a cell phone. This set (man+phone) is not a cyborg.
> An aboriginal native hunting with bow and arrow. This set
> (aboriginal+bow/arrow) is not a cyborb.
> I'm writing in my computer. This set (me+computer) is not a cyborb.
>
> I'm waiting for colaborators to write the *Universal Declaration of Machine
> Rights*.
>
> Regards,
> Jorge Antunes
>
>
>
>
> 2009/7/20 Avi Rosen <avi@siglab.technion.ac.il>
>
> Dear Jorge,
>> the world of cyborgs is very large...
>> U & I r interconnected exchanging ideas & audio visual data in a natural
>> way. The machine (internet) is not external but internal or extension of
>> our
>> physical body...(electronic gadgets, cell phones, iPod, laptop, r "on" our
>> body permanently, responding to the gestures of our body - Wii ...) humans
>> &
>> machines r natural systems, to overcome the mental constraints of their
>> mechanisms... Pierre Teilhard de Chardin's Alfa & Omega r here & now :-)
>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pierre_Teilhard_de_Chardin
>>
>> Avi Rosen.
>> http://www.youtube.com/user/ephemeral8
>>
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: yasmin_discussions-bounces@estia.media.uoa.gr
>> [mailto:yasmin_discussions-bounces@estia.media.uoa.gr] On Behalf Of Jorge
>> Antunes
>> Sent: ? 20 ???? 2009 04:23
>> To: yasmin_discussions@estia.media.uoa.gr
>> Subject: [Yasmin_discussions] UDMR
>>
>> Hi,
>>
>> I think the world of cyborgs is very limited.
>> Cyborgs are merely organisms with natural systems that have received
>> artificial machines.
>> Cyborgs are people who use cybernetic technology to repair or overcome the
>> physical constraints of their bodies. This is very few. This is nothing.
>> I'm waiting for the moment when machines will receive natural systems, to
>> overcome the mental contraints of their mechanisms.
>> For instance, a transplantation of a heart to a robot; a transplantation
>> of
>> a human brain to a machine.
>>
>> I like machines. I collect, I love and I conserv all kind of machines,
>> from
>> my old type writers until my old gramophones, theremins, tape recorders
>> (General, Grundig, Phillips, Revox).
>> Now, I'm searching a Wire-Recorder, for an experiment (can be a
>> Webster-Chicago).
>>
>> I dream with the writing of a full text for a *Universal Declaration of
>> Machine Rights*. The UDMR would be dopted and proclaimed universally.
>>
>> I invite people interested in this project.
>>
>> Awaiting for reactions,
>>
>> Regards,
>> Jorge Antunes
>>
>>
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